Xinshun 1730
Chapter 478
Chapter 478
With the last bit of vigilance towards Liu Yu, Abe Masaoku still asked the key question.
Your thinking, Liu Yu, is so "correct", so far-sighted, and so in line with the way of heaven, so why do you hear that Dashun often opens warehouses to help the people?
After asking this very sharp question, Liu Yu had to tell Abe Masaoku again the story of waiting for a rabbit and waiting for a sword.
"So, how can China and Japan be the same?"
"Dashun has Mongolia and Hetao in the north, all of which can be cultivated; there are Western Regions and oases in the west, and can also be cultivated. The people have not yet reached the point where they have no land to cultivate."
"The same is true in Japan, at this time and at that time. If there are only [-] households in Japan at this time, I would say that it is unwise and ignorant. Instead, the people should be encouraged to have children, as in the story of Goujian: Let the strong not take the old woman, let the old If a woman does not marry at seventeen, her parents are guilty; if a husband does not marry at twenty, her parents are guilty. If she is to be spared, she will be prosecuted, and the public will order the doctor to guard her. For a husband, two pots of wine and one dog; for a daughter, two A jug of wine, a dolphin; three people, the father and the mother; two sons, the father and the mother. When the head of the house dies, he will be released from his administration in three years; when the branch son dies, he will be released from his administration in three months; he will weep and be buried like his son .Orphans, widows, diseased, poor and sick, accept their sons."
"However, Japan now has more than 3000 million people. The land is fragmented, rich farmers and merchants are increasing, and land is merged. Small farmers are poor and helpless, and it is difficult to resist natural disasters. How can we still use Goujian's story at this time?"
"Some people may think that the Japanese sword should be used to seize the land for the Japanese plow. But look around, even if the Japanese have a sword, where can the Japanese cut to seize the unclaimed land?"
"Besides, you can't beat it."
"Even if we try our best, it will take three to forty years. After three or forty years, I'm afraid that with the rapid increase in population, the harm of the 'four evils' will accumulate. exploded and swept across Japan."
"Before the country was locked down, the people were ignorant, so there was nothing to worry about. Now I went to Tosa, Changzhou and other places, and the Japanese people all know that 'equal fields are free of grain, only talents are promoted, and the four people are equal'. Once an outbreak , but it’s not just asking the feudal lord to reduce taxes as before, just asking for ‘One Kui’.”
"Tens of thousands of miles to the east of the ocean, there is a wild land called America. The land is tens of millions, and its fertility is far better than that of Meinong."
"However, those who are rich are unwilling to go, and those who have no money will not be able to go. If the shogunate and the feudal clans consider the long-term consideration of Japan, they should organize immigration. It is only tens of thousands of miles away, and they must establish themselves as kings. This is exactly why Others make wedding clothes. But spend the money of the shogunate to benefit the future of all people in Japan, but I don’t know if the shogunate is willing to do it? If it is willing to do it, I will send the sea chart in a few days, and the shogunate will pay to build ships and emigrate. help."
"But the key is to have money."
"Look, let me do the math for you. Based on the Genroku inspection, the total land in Japan actually only needs 1000 million people. Now there are nearly 30 million more people. It will increase by [-] every year. Ten thousand."
"The 'surplus population' of 30 to 30 per year is to be transported to America, and each person must ensure that they survive the first year, so no matter what, they have to invest [-] taels of silver. If there is less, it is better to directly ship it to the sea and throw it into the sea Come on, save money and trouble."
"In this case, an extra 1000 million taels of silver will be spent a year."
"Can the shogunate spend 1000 million taels of silver every year?"
"Even if you learn from the Ming Dynasty and increase the Liao's salary, Japan can also contribute to the future of the He clan. Japan's plan will last forever, and the common people will suffer for a while, and the 'immigration tribute' will be shared on each household, and each household is about less than one tael of silver. This ...Can you get it?"
"With this money, it is better to buy guns and cannons, refuse relief, refuse to reduce tribute, so that the 'excess' population will starve to death spontaneously, or tax per person, and if there are more people in the family, the tax will be increased , so that the people are naturally unwilling to have children. This is exactly the behavior in line with the law of heaven, right?"
After Abe Masaoku heard about "taxing the population to curb the population", he nodded again and again, thinking that this person really has some tricks.
As for immigrating to America, which is far away, that would be a fool.
This America is tens of thousands of miles away. Date Masamune also sent people there in the past, and it took three to five years to travel, and the wind and waves were quite strong.
The shogunate spent money, but let others go there to establish themselves as kings?With such a distance, it is impossible to hand over the tribute to the shogunate. Only a fool who is a general can do this.
It is self-evident what the result of the levy of Liao's salary is.Besides, based on Liu Yu's calculations, each household would have to pay an extra tael of silver a year. How could this be paid?
Judging from the standards of Yuanlu's land inspection more than [-] years ago, there is such a record.
A wealthy farmer in Wakayama named Ota Saizo.The registered land of this Haonong has two towns and five antis, one town is about ten acres, and about 15 city acres.For Dashun standards, his family has a total of about 40 mu of land.
His younger brother is not married, and lives as a family member attached to his elder brother, which is actually similar to a slave.But brother and friend brother Gong, since they are real brothers, they still have to buy clothes to wear, and they can't be naked.
A wife, two children, and five servants in the family depended on him to live, and they were considered his long-term workers.
This person attaches great importance to water conservancy, knows how to buy fertilizers to fertilize the fields, and intensive cultivation. The two seasons of planting are converted together. The yield per mu of paddy fields is about 450 catties, and that of dry fields is around 250 catties.
The registered land is 45 shi according to the stone height. In other words, he has to pay about 22 shi in taxes when harvesting.
But this person is smarter and more capable, and he manages two seasons a year, planting some wheat and buckwheat.
The total annual income of rice, wheat, buckwheat, etc. is 90 shi.After deducting the tribute of 22 shi, there are actually about 65 shi left.
According to the price of the year, if all these incomes are converted into money, it is about 1500 yuan.
One piece of silver is about 1 grams of silver, that is, the family's annual income is 3.75 grams of silver. With the silver content of 5600% of Baoyong Dingyin, it is equivalent to 50 taels of Kuping silver.
My family eats, drinks, and scatter, tools are worn out and repaired, and my family makes clothes for the New Year every year.
Every day, the hired long-term workers are paid about 0.3 grams of silver per person per day, which is an average salary of 1.2 grams of silver per person per day.
The price of wheat is cheaper than rice, about 50 grams of Kuping silver per stone, and Japanese stone is about 260 to 300 catties.
A month's salary is about 30 grams of Baoyong Dingyin. After deducting the silver content and excluding food and drink, the labor cost is about one-half of Dashun's and one-eighth to one-twelfth of that of the Netherlands.
The grain price in Japan 30 years ago was indeed frighteningly low. If it were still so low now, the sea merchants in Dashun would be able to make a fortune in grain trade.
However, after Tokugawa Yoshimune came to power, the biggest direction of reform was to stabilize the price of rice and prevent rice prices from hurting farmers and soldiers. Now rice prices are no longer so cheap.
In the end, the actual surplus in a year is about 5, that is, the family of five, plus five servants, worked hard for a year, and finally left 20 grams of silver.
The food at his house is better.Because rice is relatively expensive, selling rice to buy millet, millet, barley, etc. can still ensure that the whole family is full.
Even if the price of rice goes up now after Tokugawa Yoshimune's reforms, it is estimated that there will be one tael of silver left in a year.
This is still a Haunong who can be recorded in the annals of history, or at least leave his name in the annals.As a rich farmer, his annual net income is not even a penny.Of course, there are accounts paid, and there may be some land that is not accounted for and taxed, and the actual income may be higher.
But Liu Yu said that "the immigrant tax of one tael per year per household", Abe Masaoku naturally thought it was nonsense, if it really wanted to be collected like this, the common people would have to rise up: why should we collect our tax and emigrate other people? ?Besides, if you charge so much, you can't afford it even if you don't eat or drink.
Since immigration is a nonsense joke, it is a good way to control the population with a small tax.
Shang Yang did the opposite, forcing the separation of families through taxation; if Japan can use it well, it can also control the population through taxation.
Abe Masaoku nodded secretly and said yes, people with a big heart really have some tricks.In this way, after 30 years, Japan's population will drop to a stable level.
That is, the "naturally reasonable" population that Liu Yu said "the four evils of population theory" will not make trouble.
If you say this in Dashun, you must be beaten to death; but in a place like Japan where there is a tradition of throwing old people up the mountain to starve to death, it is still easy to accept.
The tax of the shogunate is based on the land and not on the person, so the tax will not be less.
The samurai themselves are also a food class, and the military power of the shogunate will not decrease.
The number of people is small, and the land is not fragmented. After inheritance, if you work hard, you can still have dozens of grams of silver left.If there is a famine year, you can also spend the day without mortgaged the land to wealthy businessmen and people, thus ensuring the stability of small farmers.
Coupled with the extra people, after Dashun forced Japan to open a port, they can engage in transportation, handicrafts and other industries, all of which need to buy rice to eat; and if the price of rice is too low, Dashun maritime merchants will inevitably operate and resell it to Dashun , It can also ensure that the price of rice will not be too low, and it will not hurt the interests of the samurai.
It seems...it is indeed a perfect policy.
Abe Masaoku thought about it vigilantly for a long time, but he couldn't think of any harm behind this policy.
The only thing is that from Liu Yu's conversation, I feel that Liu Yu is too heavy on spells, too overbearing and has no kingly way. As an enemy, this kind of person is really difficult to deal with.
He also asked Liu Yu for his opinion on the collection of ding tax. Liu Yu has experience in Wendeng's pilot project of selling ding to mu, so he only needs to use Wendeng's experience and use it in the opposite direction.
"This levying tax can be called fossilized ding. It should be based on the Shigao tribute of the small farmers' Japanese land, based on the two sons of a family. Reduce a certain amount of tribute and replace the reduced tribute with the tribute tax."
"In this way, a family with one son will pay less tribute; a family with two sons will be the same as before; a family with three, four, and five sons will have to pay more taxes than before."
"The tribute paid by a family will be rewarded within 20 years. First, the land will not be fragmented and will not make small farmers extremely poor, which is conducive to the rule of the shogunate; second, the grain production will remain unchanged, and there will be less food. There is one less kui, and the family has surplus food, which also saves the cost of relief."
Abe Zhengfu said happily: "Wonderful! Sure enough, good governance. It's just that Liu Jun came up with this idea, maybe he also has selfish intentions?"
"I'm afraid Liu Jun is thinking that after 30 or [-] years, the common people will be able to buy more goods from China if they have spare money. It's still for the sake of opening ports."
At this moment, Abe Masaoku thought that he was simply the reincarnation of Yang Xiu, and he could see through Liu Yu's hidden thoughts at a glance.
But he is not Yang Xiu, and Liu Yu is not Cao Cao, even if it is revealed, he will not die.At this time, it is time to speak out, to let Liu Yu know that Japan is not without good people.
Liu Yu was startled, and then smiled embarrassingly, thinking that you are really a fucking genius, you have guessed things that I didn't even think about myself.
"Hahahahaha...that's what I mean. But it's a win-win thing. In the end, it's beneficial to Japan, isn't it? The Celestial Dynasty doesn't want Japan to be in turmoil. If the four evildoers come out and Japan is in chaos, the Celestial Dynasty must send troops to sweep the shogunate. It's just...isn't it worth money to send troops to help? So the Celestial Dynasty still hopes that Japan will be stable and long-term stable. Since it is a vassal, it is no longer an enemy country, so it cannot be considered from the perspective of an enemy country."
Abe Masaoku also nodded in agreement, thinking that although you have your own purpose, Japan will benefit from doing what you do.This is probably like Zheng Guoqu's policy of exhausting Qin. It is indeed exhausting Qin, but it is indeed benefiting Qin. It is really a win-win policy.
Sorry: I was blinded before, and the decimal point was wrong.However, taking into account the issue of silver content and the conversion of weights and measures on both sides, it does not affect the conclusion.
(End of this chapter)
With the last bit of vigilance towards Liu Yu, Abe Masaoku still asked the key question.
Your thinking, Liu Yu, is so "correct", so far-sighted, and so in line with the way of heaven, so why do you hear that Dashun often opens warehouses to help the people?
After asking this very sharp question, Liu Yu had to tell Abe Masaoku again the story of waiting for a rabbit and waiting for a sword.
"So, how can China and Japan be the same?"
"Dashun has Mongolia and Hetao in the north, all of which can be cultivated; there are Western Regions and oases in the west, and can also be cultivated. The people have not yet reached the point where they have no land to cultivate."
"The same is true in Japan, at this time and at that time. If there are only [-] households in Japan at this time, I would say that it is unwise and ignorant. Instead, the people should be encouraged to have children, as in the story of Goujian: Let the strong not take the old woman, let the old If a woman does not marry at seventeen, her parents are guilty; if a husband does not marry at twenty, her parents are guilty. If she is to be spared, she will be prosecuted, and the public will order the doctor to guard her. For a husband, two pots of wine and one dog; for a daughter, two A jug of wine, a dolphin; three people, the father and the mother; two sons, the father and the mother. When the head of the house dies, he will be released from his administration in three years; when the branch son dies, he will be released from his administration in three months; he will weep and be buried like his son .Orphans, widows, diseased, poor and sick, accept their sons."
"However, Japan now has more than 3000 million people. The land is fragmented, rich farmers and merchants are increasing, and land is merged. Small farmers are poor and helpless, and it is difficult to resist natural disasters. How can we still use Goujian's story at this time?"
"Some people may think that the Japanese sword should be used to seize the land for the Japanese plow. But look around, even if the Japanese have a sword, where can the Japanese cut to seize the unclaimed land?"
"Besides, you can't beat it."
"Even if we try our best, it will take three to forty years. After three or forty years, I'm afraid that with the rapid increase in population, the harm of the 'four evils' will accumulate. exploded and swept across Japan."
"Before the country was locked down, the people were ignorant, so there was nothing to worry about. Now I went to Tosa, Changzhou and other places, and the Japanese people all know that 'equal fields are free of grain, only talents are promoted, and the four people are equal'. Once an outbreak , but it’s not just asking the feudal lord to reduce taxes as before, just asking for ‘One Kui’.”
"Tens of thousands of miles to the east of the ocean, there is a wild land called America. The land is tens of millions, and its fertility is far better than that of Meinong."
"However, those who are rich are unwilling to go, and those who have no money will not be able to go. If the shogunate and the feudal clans consider the long-term consideration of Japan, they should organize immigration. It is only tens of thousands of miles away, and they must establish themselves as kings. This is exactly why Others make wedding clothes. But spend the money of the shogunate to benefit the future of all people in Japan, but I don’t know if the shogunate is willing to do it? If it is willing to do it, I will send the sea chart in a few days, and the shogunate will pay to build ships and emigrate. help."
"But the key is to have money."
"Look, let me do the math for you. Based on the Genroku inspection, the total land in Japan actually only needs 1000 million people. Now there are nearly 30 million more people. It will increase by [-] every year. Ten thousand."
"The 'surplus population' of 30 to 30 per year is to be transported to America, and each person must ensure that they survive the first year, so no matter what, they have to invest [-] taels of silver. If there is less, it is better to directly ship it to the sea and throw it into the sea Come on, save money and trouble."
"In this case, an extra 1000 million taels of silver will be spent a year."
"Can the shogunate spend 1000 million taels of silver every year?"
"Even if you learn from the Ming Dynasty and increase the Liao's salary, Japan can also contribute to the future of the He clan. Japan's plan will last forever, and the common people will suffer for a while, and the 'immigration tribute' will be shared on each household, and each household is about less than one tael of silver. This ...Can you get it?"
"With this money, it is better to buy guns and cannons, refuse relief, refuse to reduce tribute, so that the 'excess' population will starve to death spontaneously, or tax per person, and if there are more people in the family, the tax will be increased , so that the people are naturally unwilling to have children. This is exactly the behavior in line with the law of heaven, right?"
After Abe Masaoku heard about "taxing the population to curb the population", he nodded again and again, thinking that this person really has some tricks.
As for immigrating to America, which is far away, that would be a fool.
This America is tens of thousands of miles away. Date Masamune also sent people there in the past, and it took three to five years to travel, and the wind and waves were quite strong.
The shogunate spent money, but let others go there to establish themselves as kings?With such a distance, it is impossible to hand over the tribute to the shogunate. Only a fool who is a general can do this.
It is self-evident what the result of the levy of Liao's salary is.Besides, based on Liu Yu's calculations, each household would have to pay an extra tael of silver a year. How could this be paid?
Judging from the standards of Yuanlu's land inspection more than [-] years ago, there is such a record.
A wealthy farmer in Wakayama named Ota Saizo.The registered land of this Haonong has two towns and five antis, one town is about ten acres, and about 15 city acres.For Dashun standards, his family has a total of about 40 mu of land.
His younger brother is not married, and lives as a family member attached to his elder brother, which is actually similar to a slave.But brother and friend brother Gong, since they are real brothers, they still have to buy clothes to wear, and they can't be naked.
A wife, two children, and five servants in the family depended on him to live, and they were considered his long-term workers.
This person attaches great importance to water conservancy, knows how to buy fertilizers to fertilize the fields, and intensive cultivation. The two seasons of planting are converted together. The yield per mu of paddy fields is about 450 catties, and that of dry fields is around 250 catties.
The registered land is 45 shi according to the stone height. In other words, he has to pay about 22 shi in taxes when harvesting.
But this person is smarter and more capable, and he manages two seasons a year, planting some wheat and buckwheat.
The total annual income of rice, wheat, buckwheat, etc. is 90 shi.After deducting the tribute of 22 shi, there are actually about 65 shi left.
According to the price of the year, if all these incomes are converted into money, it is about 1500 yuan.
One piece of silver is about 1 grams of silver, that is, the family's annual income is 3.75 grams of silver. With the silver content of 5600% of Baoyong Dingyin, it is equivalent to 50 taels of Kuping silver.
My family eats, drinks, and scatter, tools are worn out and repaired, and my family makes clothes for the New Year every year.
Every day, the hired long-term workers are paid about 0.3 grams of silver per person per day, which is an average salary of 1.2 grams of silver per person per day.
The price of wheat is cheaper than rice, about 50 grams of Kuping silver per stone, and Japanese stone is about 260 to 300 catties.
A month's salary is about 30 grams of Baoyong Dingyin. After deducting the silver content and excluding food and drink, the labor cost is about one-half of Dashun's and one-eighth to one-twelfth of that of the Netherlands.
The grain price in Japan 30 years ago was indeed frighteningly low. If it were still so low now, the sea merchants in Dashun would be able to make a fortune in grain trade.
However, after Tokugawa Yoshimune came to power, the biggest direction of reform was to stabilize the price of rice and prevent rice prices from hurting farmers and soldiers. Now rice prices are no longer so cheap.
In the end, the actual surplus in a year is about 5, that is, the family of five, plus five servants, worked hard for a year, and finally left 20 grams of silver.
The food at his house is better.Because rice is relatively expensive, selling rice to buy millet, millet, barley, etc. can still ensure that the whole family is full.
Even if the price of rice goes up now after Tokugawa Yoshimune's reforms, it is estimated that there will be one tael of silver left in a year.
This is still a Haunong who can be recorded in the annals of history, or at least leave his name in the annals.As a rich farmer, his annual net income is not even a penny.Of course, there are accounts paid, and there may be some land that is not accounted for and taxed, and the actual income may be higher.
But Liu Yu said that "the immigrant tax of one tael per year per household", Abe Masaoku naturally thought it was nonsense, if it really wanted to be collected like this, the common people would have to rise up: why should we collect our tax and emigrate other people? ?Besides, if you charge so much, you can't afford it even if you don't eat or drink.
Since immigration is a nonsense joke, it is a good way to control the population with a small tax.
Shang Yang did the opposite, forcing the separation of families through taxation; if Japan can use it well, it can also control the population through taxation.
Abe Masaoku nodded secretly and said yes, people with a big heart really have some tricks.In this way, after 30 years, Japan's population will drop to a stable level.
That is, the "naturally reasonable" population that Liu Yu said "the four evils of population theory" will not make trouble.
If you say this in Dashun, you must be beaten to death; but in a place like Japan where there is a tradition of throwing old people up the mountain to starve to death, it is still easy to accept.
The tax of the shogunate is based on the land and not on the person, so the tax will not be less.
The samurai themselves are also a food class, and the military power of the shogunate will not decrease.
The number of people is small, and the land is not fragmented. After inheritance, if you work hard, you can still have dozens of grams of silver left.If there is a famine year, you can also spend the day without mortgaged the land to wealthy businessmen and people, thus ensuring the stability of small farmers.
Coupled with the extra people, after Dashun forced Japan to open a port, they can engage in transportation, handicrafts and other industries, all of which need to buy rice to eat; and if the price of rice is too low, Dashun maritime merchants will inevitably operate and resell it to Dashun , It can also ensure that the price of rice will not be too low, and it will not hurt the interests of the samurai.
It seems...it is indeed a perfect policy.
Abe Masaoku thought about it vigilantly for a long time, but he couldn't think of any harm behind this policy.
The only thing is that from Liu Yu's conversation, I feel that Liu Yu is too heavy on spells, too overbearing and has no kingly way. As an enemy, this kind of person is really difficult to deal with.
He also asked Liu Yu for his opinion on the collection of ding tax. Liu Yu has experience in Wendeng's pilot project of selling ding to mu, so he only needs to use Wendeng's experience and use it in the opposite direction.
"This levying tax can be called fossilized ding. It should be based on the Shigao tribute of the small farmers' Japanese land, based on the two sons of a family. Reduce a certain amount of tribute and replace the reduced tribute with the tribute tax."
"In this way, a family with one son will pay less tribute; a family with two sons will be the same as before; a family with three, four, and five sons will have to pay more taxes than before."
"The tribute paid by a family will be rewarded within 20 years. First, the land will not be fragmented and will not make small farmers extremely poor, which is conducive to the rule of the shogunate; second, the grain production will remain unchanged, and there will be less food. There is one less kui, and the family has surplus food, which also saves the cost of relief."
Abe Zhengfu said happily: "Wonderful! Sure enough, good governance. It's just that Liu Jun came up with this idea, maybe he also has selfish intentions?"
"I'm afraid Liu Jun is thinking that after 30 or [-] years, the common people will be able to buy more goods from China if they have spare money. It's still for the sake of opening ports."
At this moment, Abe Masaoku thought that he was simply the reincarnation of Yang Xiu, and he could see through Liu Yu's hidden thoughts at a glance.
But he is not Yang Xiu, and Liu Yu is not Cao Cao, even if it is revealed, he will not die.At this time, it is time to speak out, to let Liu Yu know that Japan is not without good people.
Liu Yu was startled, and then smiled embarrassingly, thinking that you are really a fucking genius, you have guessed things that I didn't even think about myself.
"Hahahahaha...that's what I mean. But it's a win-win thing. In the end, it's beneficial to Japan, isn't it? The Celestial Dynasty doesn't want Japan to be in turmoil. If the four evildoers come out and Japan is in chaos, the Celestial Dynasty must send troops to sweep the shogunate. It's just...isn't it worth money to send troops to help? So the Celestial Dynasty still hopes that Japan will be stable and long-term stable. Since it is a vassal, it is no longer an enemy country, so it cannot be considered from the perspective of an enemy country."
Abe Masaoku also nodded in agreement, thinking that although you have your own purpose, Japan will benefit from doing what you do.This is probably like Zheng Guoqu's policy of exhausting Qin. It is indeed exhausting Qin, but it is indeed benefiting Qin. It is really a win-win policy.
Sorry: I was blinded before, and the decimal point was wrong.However, taking into account the issue of silver content and the conversion of weights and measures on both sides, it does not affect the conclusion.
(End of this chapter)
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