Daming Town Haiwang
Chapter 1385, The conflict between old and new
Chapter 1385, The conflict between old and new
"You~you people who have forgotten their ancestors, don't learn the way of Confucius and Mencius, but learn some ingenious Yin skills, so there are people like you who have no shame."
Hearing the reply from the students of the School of Mechanical Engineering, many Confucian scholars were so angry that they were half dead.
They are noble scholars, many of them have already achieved fame, and they have always regarded themselves as very high. How can noble scholars be insulted like this?
Immediately, they felt that they had been greatly insulted, and they were so angry that they all tried to rush into the School of Mechanical Engineering, and some even rolled up their long sleeves, preparing to have a good fight with the students of the School of Mechanical Engineering.
"Are we shameless?"
"I think it's because you people don't know shame, don't study hard, and come to our school to make trouble. Are we recruiting you, messing with you, or eating your rice?"
"You keep talking about scholars, you keep talking about the way of Confucius and Mencius, but you don't even understand this kind of truth. It's useless for you to have the face to replace the sages."
"That's right, they're just a bunch of rubbish who don't understand anything, and don't know anything. They're useless except for those who know what they know."
The students of the School of Mechanical Engineering also turned back bluntly. As more and more students gathered, these students of the School of Mechanical Engineering rolled up their sleeves one by one, preparing to teach these Confucian students who came here every now and then to make trouble.
"Everyone listen to me, everyone listen to me~"
Ren Siheng saw that the situation was getting more and more serious. If there was a fight, people would die if they couldn't handle it. Once this happened, things would become big.
So he hurried to the school gate and yelled loudly.
"Dean, these Confucian scholars are too deceitful. They come to our school to make trouble every day. We don't want to pay attention to them, but they persist and threaten to close our school."
"Yes, yes, principal, these Confucian scholars are really disgusting."
"We just study quietly and do what we like to do quietly, but they always point fingers at us, make irresponsible remarks, and claim to be the moral high ground, but they don't know anything."
Seeing Ren Siheng coming out, many students hurriedly chatted to Ren Siheng.
"Everyone listen to me, everyone listen to me~"
"We are all scholars, and scholars should behave like scholars. Even if there are some differences in ideas, we should discuss the facts, discuss and communicate with each other more, instead of criticizing each other, let alone rolling up our sleeves to fight like reckless people. "
Ren Siheng tried his best to persuade his students, and then said to the Confucian scholars who came: "You are all scholars, you should concentrate on learning, prepare for the imperial examination next year, and get a good reputation at that time, become a court official, share the worries of the king, and serve the Ming Dynasty. Jiangshan designs for the benefit."
"Instead of talking nonsense here at the school gate and causing trouble, this is not what scholars call it, and it is not in line with the principles of Confucius and Mencius."
Ren Siheng worked hard and hoped that these Confucian scholars could go back and stop causing trouble.
However, these Confucian scholars did not understand Ren Siheng's painstaking efforts.
"Who is a scholar to you?"
"You people also have the nerve to call yourself a scholar?"
"You are just mud legs who can read a few words. Do you understand the way of Confucius and Mencius?"
"Do you know loyalty, filial piety and shame?"
"Do you know what is right way and what is heresy?"
The Confucian scholars looked at the students of the School of Mechanical Engineering in front of them with unshakable eyes, and they didn't pay much attention to Ren Siheng, the principal.
These Confucian students who study in traditional private schools are all from superior families and are the children of rich people, while those who study in new schools are basically the children of poor and ordinary people.
Because it is impossible to take the imperial examination if you study the new school, the rich will naturally not let their children go to the new school. If you can’t take the imperial examination, you can’t get fame and become an official. This is something that many people can’t accepted.
Only ordinary families with no money will send their children to study in new schools. Although they cannot be officials, they can study for free and find a good job when they come out.
"After reading a few Four Books and Five Classics, you feel superior to others?"
"What's your use?"
"Apart from yelling and shouting, I really don't think you can make anything practical and useful?"
"Come to make trouble every day, eat enough to hold on."
The students of the School of Mechanical Engineering responded angrily.
Seeing that these Confucian scholars ignored him at all, Ren Siheng was also very helpless.
The huge difference in ideology has formed a sharp contrast between the new learning and the old learning.
"Of course we are different from you mud-legged ones. We learned the way of Confucius and Mencius, the way of being loyal to the emperor above and governing the people below, but you are learning the heresy of the bottom three."
"That's right, that's right, heresy, dirty things."
"It's full of ingenious tricks, destroying my Great Ming's code of ethics, and messing up my Daming country and society."
"..."
Liu Jin on the side has been watching coldly, frowning.
Originally, Liu Jin thought that as long as the new learning did not compete with the Confucian scholars of the old learning for fame, these traditional Confucian scholars should not strongly oppose the new learning.
But now it seems that I was really wrong.
There is a fundamental confrontation in thought and concept between the new learning and the old learning.
Traditional Confucianism advocates only reading Confucian classics, studying the Four Books and Five Classics, looking for the way to govern the country, looking for the basis for dealing with all aspects of society, ruling the country with loyalty and filial piety, and ruling by the king, etc. are also things they put forward and believe in. .
In the eyes of these traditional Confucian scholars, if the new learning does not teach the way of Confucius and Mencius, if you do not study the Four Books and Five Classics, you will deviate from the classics, and it is a low-level thing. s difference.
Although these new students did not compete with them for the imperial examinations, but as time passed, the new students began to shine in various fields.
The many new things brought by the new learning also made the traditional Confucians uneasy.
Coupled with the huge differences and differences between the two ideas and concepts, it has led to the contradiction between the old traditional learning and the new learning of the Ming Dynasty, and this contradiction is getting deeper and sharper.
Confucian scholars feel that the new learning is constantly expanding, more and more people accept the new learning, and the scale of the new learning, the number of schools, and the number of students are all increasing.
Looking back at the old school, whether it is a new school or a school, it is far from being able to compare with the new school, which makes them feel very disturbed.
In the past, those who could read and write were all people who had learned from their old studies, and they were all students of Confucius and Mencius, but now, more and more new learners have come out of the school. They are also literate, but they are not Confucius and Mencius. Some students do not respect the teachings of Confucius and Mencius, nor do they study the Four Books and Five Classics.
Since ancient times, whoever has mastered knowledge has mastered the right to speak, and the rapid development of new learning has made them feel their own crisis.
Naturally, they need to stand up, attack new learning, maintain the status of traditional Confucianism, and safeguard their own status and interests.
Although there is no competition with them for fame now, what about in the future?
No one can say for sure, after all, times are constantly changing.
For new learners, they are developing rapidly, the number of schools and students is increasing greatly, and at the same time they are constantly achieving one result after another.
Not to mention steam engines, trains, steam ships, harvesters, cultivators, etc., which are practical and can greatly promote productivity.
In other aspects, the new science is developing rapidly in many fields such as medicine, mathematics, physics, chemistry, astronomy, etc., and their understanding of the whole world is getting deeper and deeper, and they gradually grasp more powerful power.
It also makes them start to believe that new learning is the right way, because they continue to study, keep blinking, study the truth behind things, use them to benefit mankind, improve productivity, make transportation more convenient and comfortable, and make production more convenient and comfortable. It becomes faster, more efficient and labor-saving.
However, they do not have a high status. The ministers above the court are all Confucian scholars of traditional Confucian origin. They are high in the temple and hold great power.
However, these Confucian scholars, apart from being able to shout slogans and write beautiful articles, have no real great skills. In the eyes of many new scholars, their existence has seriously hindered the prosperity of Ming Dynasty.
Some people advocate that new scholars should also go to court and participate in the decision-making of major national affairs. They should not be limited to participate in the construction of Ming Dynasty from the level of technology and production, but should participate in the construction and development of Ming Dynasty from the national level.
For this reason, in some Xinxue schools, some Xinxue students have even proposed new models of governing the country, and these models even have some shadows of the capitalist system of later generations.
There are ideological contradictions and conflicts between the new learning and the old learning. At the same time, there are gradually conflicts of interest in state affairs and court power.
This is also an important reason why the contradiction between new learning and old learning is getting deeper and deeper.
"Does it have to be the same as in Europe in history, where movements appear again and again to completely solve it?"
Liu Jin couldn't help but sigh in his heart.
It seemed as if he had seen some important event that would happen in Daming in the future.
In fact, Liu Jin has already foreseen in his heart that there will inevitably be a huge conflict between the new learning and the old learning, and this kind of conflict is very likely to eventually evolve into revolutions, various movements, etc., and will eventually be one side. ended in an all-out victory.
But Liu Jin didn't want to see this kind of conflict right now. Daming needed time, needed time to develop, to determine its own dominion over the world.
If there is a lot of chaos now, it is obviously not a good thing for Daming, especially the huge Ming Empire, which is too large, and it is very likely that it will be torn apart. This is something Liu Jin absolutely does not want to see.
Many history books have not written about this aspect. I think it should not be. The reason why the time traveler is a time traveler is because they have different ideas in their bones~
(End of this chapter)
"You~you people who have forgotten their ancestors, don't learn the way of Confucius and Mencius, but learn some ingenious Yin skills, so there are people like you who have no shame."
Hearing the reply from the students of the School of Mechanical Engineering, many Confucian scholars were so angry that they were half dead.
They are noble scholars, many of them have already achieved fame, and they have always regarded themselves as very high. How can noble scholars be insulted like this?
Immediately, they felt that they had been greatly insulted, and they were so angry that they all tried to rush into the School of Mechanical Engineering, and some even rolled up their long sleeves, preparing to have a good fight with the students of the School of Mechanical Engineering.
"Are we shameless?"
"I think it's because you people don't know shame, don't study hard, and come to our school to make trouble. Are we recruiting you, messing with you, or eating your rice?"
"You keep talking about scholars, you keep talking about the way of Confucius and Mencius, but you don't even understand this kind of truth. It's useless for you to have the face to replace the sages."
"That's right, they're just a bunch of rubbish who don't understand anything, and don't know anything. They're useless except for those who know what they know."
The students of the School of Mechanical Engineering also turned back bluntly. As more and more students gathered, these students of the School of Mechanical Engineering rolled up their sleeves one by one, preparing to teach these Confucian students who came here every now and then to make trouble.
"Everyone listen to me, everyone listen to me~"
Ren Siheng saw that the situation was getting more and more serious. If there was a fight, people would die if they couldn't handle it. Once this happened, things would become big.
So he hurried to the school gate and yelled loudly.
"Dean, these Confucian scholars are too deceitful. They come to our school to make trouble every day. We don't want to pay attention to them, but they persist and threaten to close our school."
"Yes, yes, principal, these Confucian scholars are really disgusting."
"We just study quietly and do what we like to do quietly, but they always point fingers at us, make irresponsible remarks, and claim to be the moral high ground, but they don't know anything."
Seeing Ren Siheng coming out, many students hurriedly chatted to Ren Siheng.
"Everyone listen to me, everyone listen to me~"
"We are all scholars, and scholars should behave like scholars. Even if there are some differences in ideas, we should discuss the facts, discuss and communicate with each other more, instead of criticizing each other, let alone rolling up our sleeves to fight like reckless people. "
Ren Siheng tried his best to persuade his students, and then said to the Confucian scholars who came: "You are all scholars, you should concentrate on learning, prepare for the imperial examination next year, and get a good reputation at that time, become a court official, share the worries of the king, and serve the Ming Dynasty. Jiangshan designs for the benefit."
"Instead of talking nonsense here at the school gate and causing trouble, this is not what scholars call it, and it is not in line with the principles of Confucius and Mencius."
Ren Siheng worked hard and hoped that these Confucian scholars could go back and stop causing trouble.
However, these Confucian scholars did not understand Ren Siheng's painstaking efforts.
"Who is a scholar to you?"
"You people also have the nerve to call yourself a scholar?"
"You are just mud legs who can read a few words. Do you understand the way of Confucius and Mencius?"
"Do you know loyalty, filial piety and shame?"
"Do you know what is right way and what is heresy?"
The Confucian scholars looked at the students of the School of Mechanical Engineering in front of them with unshakable eyes, and they didn't pay much attention to Ren Siheng, the principal.
These Confucian students who study in traditional private schools are all from superior families and are the children of rich people, while those who study in new schools are basically the children of poor and ordinary people.
Because it is impossible to take the imperial examination if you study the new school, the rich will naturally not let their children go to the new school. If you can’t take the imperial examination, you can’t get fame and become an official. This is something that many people can’t accepted.
Only ordinary families with no money will send their children to study in new schools. Although they cannot be officials, they can study for free and find a good job when they come out.
"After reading a few Four Books and Five Classics, you feel superior to others?"
"What's your use?"
"Apart from yelling and shouting, I really don't think you can make anything practical and useful?"
"Come to make trouble every day, eat enough to hold on."
The students of the School of Mechanical Engineering responded angrily.
Seeing that these Confucian scholars ignored him at all, Ren Siheng was also very helpless.
The huge difference in ideology has formed a sharp contrast between the new learning and the old learning.
"Of course we are different from you mud-legged ones. We learned the way of Confucius and Mencius, the way of being loyal to the emperor above and governing the people below, but you are learning the heresy of the bottom three."
"That's right, that's right, heresy, dirty things."
"It's full of ingenious tricks, destroying my Great Ming's code of ethics, and messing up my Daming country and society."
"..."
Liu Jin on the side has been watching coldly, frowning.
Originally, Liu Jin thought that as long as the new learning did not compete with the Confucian scholars of the old learning for fame, these traditional Confucian scholars should not strongly oppose the new learning.
But now it seems that I was really wrong.
There is a fundamental confrontation in thought and concept between the new learning and the old learning.
Traditional Confucianism advocates only reading Confucian classics, studying the Four Books and Five Classics, looking for the way to govern the country, looking for the basis for dealing with all aspects of society, ruling the country with loyalty and filial piety, and ruling by the king, etc. are also things they put forward and believe in. .
In the eyes of these traditional Confucian scholars, if the new learning does not teach the way of Confucius and Mencius, if you do not study the Four Books and Five Classics, you will deviate from the classics, and it is a low-level thing. s difference.
Although these new students did not compete with them for the imperial examinations, but as time passed, the new students began to shine in various fields.
The many new things brought by the new learning also made the traditional Confucians uneasy.
Coupled with the huge differences and differences between the two ideas and concepts, it has led to the contradiction between the old traditional learning and the new learning of the Ming Dynasty, and this contradiction is getting deeper and sharper.
Confucian scholars feel that the new learning is constantly expanding, more and more people accept the new learning, and the scale of the new learning, the number of schools, and the number of students are all increasing.
Looking back at the old school, whether it is a new school or a school, it is far from being able to compare with the new school, which makes them feel very disturbed.
In the past, those who could read and write were all people who had learned from their old studies, and they were all students of Confucius and Mencius, but now, more and more new learners have come out of the school. They are also literate, but they are not Confucius and Mencius. Some students do not respect the teachings of Confucius and Mencius, nor do they study the Four Books and Five Classics.
Since ancient times, whoever has mastered knowledge has mastered the right to speak, and the rapid development of new learning has made them feel their own crisis.
Naturally, they need to stand up, attack new learning, maintain the status of traditional Confucianism, and safeguard their own status and interests.
Although there is no competition with them for fame now, what about in the future?
No one can say for sure, after all, times are constantly changing.
For new learners, they are developing rapidly, the number of schools and students is increasing greatly, and at the same time they are constantly achieving one result after another.
Not to mention steam engines, trains, steam ships, harvesters, cultivators, etc., which are practical and can greatly promote productivity.
In other aspects, the new science is developing rapidly in many fields such as medicine, mathematics, physics, chemistry, astronomy, etc., and their understanding of the whole world is getting deeper and deeper, and they gradually grasp more powerful power.
It also makes them start to believe that new learning is the right way, because they continue to study, keep blinking, study the truth behind things, use them to benefit mankind, improve productivity, make transportation more convenient and comfortable, and make production more convenient and comfortable. It becomes faster, more efficient and labor-saving.
However, they do not have a high status. The ministers above the court are all Confucian scholars of traditional Confucian origin. They are high in the temple and hold great power.
However, these Confucian scholars, apart from being able to shout slogans and write beautiful articles, have no real great skills. In the eyes of many new scholars, their existence has seriously hindered the prosperity of Ming Dynasty.
Some people advocate that new scholars should also go to court and participate in the decision-making of major national affairs. They should not be limited to participate in the construction of Ming Dynasty from the level of technology and production, but should participate in the construction and development of Ming Dynasty from the national level.
For this reason, in some Xinxue schools, some Xinxue students have even proposed new models of governing the country, and these models even have some shadows of the capitalist system of later generations.
There are ideological contradictions and conflicts between the new learning and the old learning. At the same time, there are gradually conflicts of interest in state affairs and court power.
This is also an important reason why the contradiction between new learning and old learning is getting deeper and deeper.
"Does it have to be the same as in Europe in history, where movements appear again and again to completely solve it?"
Liu Jin couldn't help but sigh in his heart.
It seemed as if he had seen some important event that would happen in Daming in the future.
In fact, Liu Jin has already foreseen in his heart that there will inevitably be a huge conflict between the new learning and the old learning, and this kind of conflict is very likely to eventually evolve into revolutions, various movements, etc., and will eventually be one side. ended in an all-out victory.
But Liu Jin didn't want to see this kind of conflict right now. Daming needed time, needed time to develop, to determine its own dominion over the world.
If there is a lot of chaos now, it is obviously not a good thing for Daming, especially the huge Ming Empire, which is too large, and it is very likely that it will be torn apart. This is something Liu Jin absolutely does not want to see.
Many history books have not written about this aspect. I think it should not be. The reason why the time traveler is a time traveler is because they have different ideas in their bones~
(End of this chapter)
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