Qiming 1158
Chapter 280 The Northern Expedition has never been a purely military issue
Chapter 280 The Northern Expedition has never been a purely military issue
Chen Kangbo has always been a staunch advocate of the war and an anti-Golden fighter, and he has never been afraid of the Golden People.
But he also couldn't understand what the people who were afraid of the golden man thought.
He couldn't understand those timid people, and he couldn't prescribe the right medicine to solve their rickets. He didn't know that violent methods could not cure rickets, but only aggravated the condition.
He just blindly asked to go north, go north, or go north.
So he made a motion.
"Zhao Kaishan's army of [-] people is ready to attack Kaifeng, and a considerable part of the golden thieves has been contained. If you don't take the opportunity to go north to retake the old capital and restore the Central Plains at this moment, when will you have to wait until you go north?"
The return of Tang Si, a severely ill patient with osteoarthritis, is the same as it is and firmly opposes it.
"Let's not talk about whether Zhao Kaishan can succeed or not. The Golden Bandit's troops at the border have not been reduced, and they are still very strong. What does this mean? This shows that Zhao Kaishan has not threatened the root of the Kaifeng Golden Bandit at all, otherwise they would have sent the border troops back. Help!"
Chen Kangbo was very indignant at Tang Situi's ignorance and pretending to understand.
"The golden thief doesn't move the border army because of fear, because they are afraid of my Great Song army going north, so they don't dare to move. They are not sure whether our Great Song army will go north. If they are sure that the Great Song army will not go north, look at them. at every turn!"
Tang Si Tui was very unhappy, he decided to present the facts and reason.
"Chen Changqing, after all that, don't you just want the Northern Expedition? But do you think the Northern Expedition is as simple as saying two words with one mouth? Choose the army, mobilize troops, prepare grain, military supplies, transport civilians, and relevant officials. , coach and so on, do you know how much effort it takes?
Not to mention anything else, just talking about the number of troops sent in the Northern Expedition, once the Northern Expedition sends troops, the number cannot be less than 3. For a war of 3000 people, the imperial court will have to spend 3000 million yuan in military expenses! 3000 million!Do you know how difficult it is for the court to take back the [-] million? "
Chen Kangbo fought hard according to reason, and refused to give an inch.
"If everyone did the same as you and settled their accounts before going to war, and then discussed whether to spend so much money, there would be no wars in the world! Yes, wars cost money, but we spend money for the sake of More people, land and income!
Da Song overcomes the golden thief Nanjing Road and recaptures Kaifeng and even the Central Plains. How important is the benefit to Da Song?How many acres of fertile land and tens of millions of Han people are all sources of taxation. Why don't you consider this? "
Tang Si Tui sneered.
"I just thought about this before I say this. Do you really think that the Song Dynasty's Northern Expedition to the Central Plains to restore the homeland can really bring huge benefits to the court? If I don't say anything else, I will ask you, what about the Yellow River? "
As soon as these words came out, the faces of the monarchs and ministers in the hall were not quite right.
Chen Kangbo's expression was not right, Chen Chengzhi's and Wang Lun's expressions were not right, even Tang Situi's "like-minded" good partner Shen Kai looked a little wrong, let alone Zhao Gou.
Tang Situi said something that everyone was reluctant to mention in one sentence.
In the Jingkang year, Du Chong, who stayed behind in Tokyo, dug the Yellow River dam in order to buy himself time to escape, causing the Yellow River to flood into a disaster and out of control.
Since then, the water of the Yellow River has become extremely restless and often flooded.
During the period of Puppet Qi control, it was a headache. In the era when the Jin Kingdom directly ruled the Central Plains, it was even more difficult for the Jin Kingdom to live in peace. He spent a lot of money for this, and he had to rest every few years. To rescue once.
It is not that Jin Guo did not have an insightful person who proposed a proposal to completely renovate the Yellow River. He also had a good plan. He could renovate the Yellow River in place in one breath, and the province would flood every year.
However, this program costs too much and the national treasury cannot afford it.
Second, the political situation in the Jin Kingdom has always been unstable, with frequent internal struggles. Externally, Jin Ting was always worried about the Southern Song Northern Expedition to regain the old place, so he was not willing to completely renovate the Yellow River.
The Yellow River just sits there.
Jin Guo didn't want to do it, and Nan Song didn't want to take over after seeing the headache.
It can be said that this mess of the Yellow River is an existence that the Southern Song Dynasty absolutely does not want to touch.
Of course, it is good to return to the Central Plains, and a peaceful and stable Central Plains is of course convenient for them to go back and exploit, and they can obtain greater benefits.
But if the Central Plains they got was not peaceful and stable, but a land of four wars with frequent famines and floods, then they would naturally have to think hard about whether they could afford the cost of governance after the Central Plains were recovered.
In this court dominated by scholars from the south, restoring the Central Plains meant that the landlords and tyrants in the south had to transfuse blood to the Central Plains on a large scale and spend a lot of money to restore the productivity of the Central Plains.
Whether the benefits of recycling are still in between.
This is definitely good for the country, but not good for the tyrannical landlords in the south.
We are not relatives, we don’t know each other at all, and we haven’t had much contact with each other. Why do you want me to pay so much money to help you restore your hometown?
Anyone with a discerning eye can see that once the Central Plains are recovered, the first thing they will face is the raging Yellow River.
And the people of Jin Guo spent so much trouble and failed to manage the Yellow River. At this time, the Southern Song Dynasty went back to pick up the mess, was it worth it?
Not to mention whether it's worth it or not, if it really gets to that point, who is paying for it?
This is not just a political issue, let alone a military issue, but an economic issue, a very serious economic issue.
Tang Situi's words are actually mainstream opinions, while Chen Kangbo is completely non-mainstream, a Northern Expedition faction that is rare and unpopular among the main war factions.
This is good, Chen Kangbo doesn't know what to say.
He was sad and angry, and stared at Tang Si Tui angrily for a while, not knowing what to say.
In the end, it was Chen Chengzhi who stood up to smooth the game.
"Restoring the Central Plains and returning to the old capital is of course a good thing for the Song Dynasty. If the occupied old country can be restored, the official family will return to the old capital. There is no doubt that the advantages outweigh the disadvantages, but considering the actual situation in the Central Plains , may be debatable, but..."
Zhao Gou glanced at Chen Chengzhi, feeling that he still had something to say.
"But what? Chen Qing, but it doesn't matter."
"Yes."
Chen Chengzhi opened his mouth and said: "I think that even if the imperial court does not have the budget to renovate the Yellow River, it is better for Zhao Kaishan to occupy Nanjing Road than for the Jinren to occupy Nanjing Road. It would be better if I could send troops to help him occupy Nanjing Road.
Moreover, this Zhao Kaishan is also an official of my dynasty. Even if it is only in name, the official family can check and balance him in the name of righteousness. If he is in the north, someone can stop disasters for my dynasty. If the Jin people want to go south, they will not It's not easy, what do the officials think? "
Chen Chengzhi said this, but it made Zhao Gou start to think about the pros and cons.
Jin Guo has troops stationed on Nanjing Road, which is always a threat to the Southern Song Dynasty. It doesn't matter whether they fight or not, what matters is whether they have it or not.
For now, if Zhao Kaishan can form a confrontation with the Jin Kingdom in the north and isolate the Southern Song Dynasty from the Jin Kingdom, then for the Southern Song Dynasty, it will be an additional barrier.
Isn't it a good thing?
Zhao Gou didn't dare to go north, and the mainstream forces of the court were unwilling to go north. They didn't dare to take risks, and they didn't want to take on that economic responsibility, but if someone could isolate them from Jin Guo, that would be a good thing.
At least the Southern Song Dynasty court did not have to worry all the time that the Jin Bing would go south and point directly at Jianghuai, leaving them unprepared.
With an isolation buffer in the middle, it couldn't be better.
But Zhao Gou thought about it, can this Zhao Kaishan succeed?
Can Da Song and Jin Guo be isolated and held on?
Can it provide strategic support for the Song Dynasty?
If not, is there any need for support?
After he was destroyed, wouldn't it be an excuse for the Jin people to go south to conquer the Song Dynasty?
At that time, Da Song will be forced to fight against the Jin Kingdom, the nightmare of the past will reappear, and Zhao Gou will have to prepare to escape to the sea again. He didn't want to do it again.
If he can hold on, and stand firm...
Will that be a threat to Da Songxin?
This kind of military leader who is not controlled by the court has always been the most difficult to deal with. Zhao Gou, who was coerced by the military leader many times in the early days of Nandu, was deeply touched.
You are in control of your own food and salaries, your own administration, and your own control of everything. You are extremely independent. You can get to this point without the help of the imperial court, let alone get the help of the imperial court?
Zhao Gou thought about it seriously and felt that the problem was not simple.
Back then, Yue Fei was so good at fighting, and the imperial court's over-standard financial support to Yue Fei was indispensable, so that his troops could eat well and drink well and earn money. This was the material basis for Yue's army to be invincible.
Yue Jiajun does have its own industry, but Yue Jiajun's own industry is not enough to support the normal consumption of the entire army, at most it is the icing on the cake.
So when the court decided not to let Yue Fei fight, Yue Fei actually had no better choice.
If he doesn't retreat, as long as the court cuts off his logistical supply, he won't be able to go very far on his own, and he will also bury the elites who have been trained with great difficulty.
So Yue Fei is still controllable.
But Zhao Kaishan is different.
He raised an army of [-] by himself, not with the financial support of the imperial court. This is a serious uncontrollable factor. If he is allowed to expand in the north, will it in turn become a threat to the imperial court?
Even if they are both loyal and good, it is hard to say. Yue Fei is also loyal, but he is only thinking of welcoming back the Second Sage, and he does not think about Zhao Gou at all. If Zhao Kaishan is the same, he will give Zhao Huan to him after defeating the Jin Kingdom. Get it back, so what should I do?
Isn't his own throne unstable?
In a short moment, Zhao, who did not know that Zhao Huan was dead, had a lot of ideas.
About himself, about the Southern Song Dynasty, about the future.
So the Northern Expedition has never been a purely military issue.
(End of this chapter)
Chen Kangbo has always been a staunch advocate of the war and an anti-Golden fighter, and he has never been afraid of the Golden People.
But he also couldn't understand what the people who were afraid of the golden man thought.
He couldn't understand those timid people, and he couldn't prescribe the right medicine to solve their rickets. He didn't know that violent methods could not cure rickets, but only aggravated the condition.
He just blindly asked to go north, go north, or go north.
So he made a motion.
"Zhao Kaishan's army of [-] people is ready to attack Kaifeng, and a considerable part of the golden thieves has been contained. If you don't take the opportunity to go north to retake the old capital and restore the Central Plains at this moment, when will you have to wait until you go north?"
The return of Tang Si, a severely ill patient with osteoarthritis, is the same as it is and firmly opposes it.
"Let's not talk about whether Zhao Kaishan can succeed or not. The Golden Bandit's troops at the border have not been reduced, and they are still very strong. What does this mean? This shows that Zhao Kaishan has not threatened the root of the Kaifeng Golden Bandit at all, otherwise they would have sent the border troops back. Help!"
Chen Kangbo was very indignant at Tang Situi's ignorance and pretending to understand.
"The golden thief doesn't move the border army because of fear, because they are afraid of my Great Song army going north, so they don't dare to move. They are not sure whether our Great Song army will go north. If they are sure that the Great Song army will not go north, look at them. at every turn!"
Tang Si Tui was very unhappy, he decided to present the facts and reason.
"Chen Changqing, after all that, don't you just want the Northern Expedition? But do you think the Northern Expedition is as simple as saying two words with one mouth? Choose the army, mobilize troops, prepare grain, military supplies, transport civilians, and relevant officials. , coach and so on, do you know how much effort it takes?
Not to mention anything else, just talking about the number of troops sent in the Northern Expedition, once the Northern Expedition sends troops, the number cannot be less than 3. For a war of 3000 people, the imperial court will have to spend 3000 million yuan in military expenses! 3000 million!Do you know how difficult it is for the court to take back the [-] million? "
Chen Kangbo fought hard according to reason, and refused to give an inch.
"If everyone did the same as you and settled their accounts before going to war, and then discussed whether to spend so much money, there would be no wars in the world! Yes, wars cost money, but we spend money for the sake of More people, land and income!
Da Song overcomes the golden thief Nanjing Road and recaptures Kaifeng and even the Central Plains. How important is the benefit to Da Song?How many acres of fertile land and tens of millions of Han people are all sources of taxation. Why don't you consider this? "
Tang Si Tui sneered.
"I just thought about this before I say this. Do you really think that the Song Dynasty's Northern Expedition to the Central Plains to restore the homeland can really bring huge benefits to the court? If I don't say anything else, I will ask you, what about the Yellow River? "
As soon as these words came out, the faces of the monarchs and ministers in the hall were not quite right.
Chen Kangbo's expression was not right, Chen Chengzhi's and Wang Lun's expressions were not right, even Tang Situi's "like-minded" good partner Shen Kai looked a little wrong, let alone Zhao Gou.
Tang Situi said something that everyone was reluctant to mention in one sentence.
In the Jingkang year, Du Chong, who stayed behind in Tokyo, dug the Yellow River dam in order to buy himself time to escape, causing the Yellow River to flood into a disaster and out of control.
Since then, the water of the Yellow River has become extremely restless and often flooded.
During the period of Puppet Qi control, it was a headache. In the era when the Jin Kingdom directly ruled the Central Plains, it was even more difficult for the Jin Kingdom to live in peace. He spent a lot of money for this, and he had to rest every few years. To rescue once.
It is not that Jin Guo did not have an insightful person who proposed a proposal to completely renovate the Yellow River. He also had a good plan. He could renovate the Yellow River in place in one breath, and the province would flood every year.
However, this program costs too much and the national treasury cannot afford it.
Second, the political situation in the Jin Kingdom has always been unstable, with frequent internal struggles. Externally, Jin Ting was always worried about the Southern Song Northern Expedition to regain the old place, so he was not willing to completely renovate the Yellow River.
The Yellow River just sits there.
Jin Guo didn't want to do it, and Nan Song didn't want to take over after seeing the headache.
It can be said that this mess of the Yellow River is an existence that the Southern Song Dynasty absolutely does not want to touch.
Of course, it is good to return to the Central Plains, and a peaceful and stable Central Plains is of course convenient for them to go back and exploit, and they can obtain greater benefits.
But if the Central Plains they got was not peaceful and stable, but a land of four wars with frequent famines and floods, then they would naturally have to think hard about whether they could afford the cost of governance after the Central Plains were recovered.
In this court dominated by scholars from the south, restoring the Central Plains meant that the landlords and tyrants in the south had to transfuse blood to the Central Plains on a large scale and spend a lot of money to restore the productivity of the Central Plains.
Whether the benefits of recycling are still in between.
This is definitely good for the country, but not good for the tyrannical landlords in the south.
We are not relatives, we don’t know each other at all, and we haven’t had much contact with each other. Why do you want me to pay so much money to help you restore your hometown?
Anyone with a discerning eye can see that once the Central Plains are recovered, the first thing they will face is the raging Yellow River.
And the people of Jin Guo spent so much trouble and failed to manage the Yellow River. At this time, the Southern Song Dynasty went back to pick up the mess, was it worth it?
Not to mention whether it's worth it or not, if it really gets to that point, who is paying for it?
This is not just a political issue, let alone a military issue, but an economic issue, a very serious economic issue.
Tang Situi's words are actually mainstream opinions, while Chen Kangbo is completely non-mainstream, a Northern Expedition faction that is rare and unpopular among the main war factions.
This is good, Chen Kangbo doesn't know what to say.
He was sad and angry, and stared at Tang Si Tui angrily for a while, not knowing what to say.
In the end, it was Chen Chengzhi who stood up to smooth the game.
"Restoring the Central Plains and returning to the old capital is of course a good thing for the Song Dynasty. If the occupied old country can be restored, the official family will return to the old capital. There is no doubt that the advantages outweigh the disadvantages, but considering the actual situation in the Central Plains , may be debatable, but..."
Zhao Gou glanced at Chen Chengzhi, feeling that he still had something to say.
"But what? Chen Qing, but it doesn't matter."
"Yes."
Chen Chengzhi opened his mouth and said: "I think that even if the imperial court does not have the budget to renovate the Yellow River, it is better for Zhao Kaishan to occupy Nanjing Road than for the Jinren to occupy Nanjing Road. It would be better if I could send troops to help him occupy Nanjing Road.
Moreover, this Zhao Kaishan is also an official of my dynasty. Even if it is only in name, the official family can check and balance him in the name of righteousness. If he is in the north, someone can stop disasters for my dynasty. If the Jin people want to go south, they will not It's not easy, what do the officials think? "
Chen Chengzhi said this, but it made Zhao Gou start to think about the pros and cons.
Jin Guo has troops stationed on Nanjing Road, which is always a threat to the Southern Song Dynasty. It doesn't matter whether they fight or not, what matters is whether they have it or not.
For now, if Zhao Kaishan can form a confrontation with the Jin Kingdom in the north and isolate the Southern Song Dynasty from the Jin Kingdom, then for the Southern Song Dynasty, it will be an additional barrier.
Isn't it a good thing?
Zhao Gou didn't dare to go north, and the mainstream forces of the court were unwilling to go north. They didn't dare to take risks, and they didn't want to take on that economic responsibility, but if someone could isolate them from Jin Guo, that would be a good thing.
At least the Southern Song Dynasty court did not have to worry all the time that the Jin Bing would go south and point directly at Jianghuai, leaving them unprepared.
With an isolation buffer in the middle, it couldn't be better.
But Zhao Gou thought about it, can this Zhao Kaishan succeed?
Can Da Song and Jin Guo be isolated and held on?
Can it provide strategic support for the Song Dynasty?
If not, is there any need for support?
After he was destroyed, wouldn't it be an excuse for the Jin people to go south to conquer the Song Dynasty?
At that time, Da Song will be forced to fight against the Jin Kingdom, the nightmare of the past will reappear, and Zhao Gou will have to prepare to escape to the sea again. He didn't want to do it again.
If he can hold on, and stand firm...
Will that be a threat to Da Songxin?
This kind of military leader who is not controlled by the court has always been the most difficult to deal with. Zhao Gou, who was coerced by the military leader many times in the early days of Nandu, was deeply touched.
You are in control of your own food and salaries, your own administration, and your own control of everything. You are extremely independent. You can get to this point without the help of the imperial court, let alone get the help of the imperial court?
Zhao Gou thought about it seriously and felt that the problem was not simple.
Back then, Yue Fei was so good at fighting, and the imperial court's over-standard financial support to Yue Fei was indispensable, so that his troops could eat well and drink well and earn money. This was the material basis for Yue's army to be invincible.
Yue Jiajun does have its own industry, but Yue Jiajun's own industry is not enough to support the normal consumption of the entire army, at most it is the icing on the cake.
So when the court decided not to let Yue Fei fight, Yue Fei actually had no better choice.
If he doesn't retreat, as long as the court cuts off his logistical supply, he won't be able to go very far on his own, and he will also bury the elites who have been trained with great difficulty.
So Yue Fei is still controllable.
But Zhao Kaishan is different.
He raised an army of [-] by himself, not with the financial support of the imperial court. This is a serious uncontrollable factor. If he is allowed to expand in the north, will it in turn become a threat to the imperial court?
Even if they are both loyal and good, it is hard to say. Yue Fei is also loyal, but he is only thinking of welcoming back the Second Sage, and he does not think about Zhao Gou at all. If Zhao Kaishan is the same, he will give Zhao Huan to him after defeating the Jin Kingdom. Get it back, so what should I do?
Isn't his own throne unstable?
In a short moment, Zhao, who did not know that Zhao Huan was dead, had a lot of ideas.
About himself, about the Southern Song Dynasty, about the future.
So the Northern Expedition has never been a purely military issue.
(End of this chapter)
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