Chapter 551 The Same Qi Lianzhi (Two in One)

Regarding Zhang Rujing's judgment on Samsung, Fang Zhuo and him can confirm each other.

Samsung is now rushing to the foundry market, but it is not without a technical foundation. Samsung in the field of storage products has established an advantage that other competitors cannot easily shake.

In 93, its memory chips were No. 03 in the market. In [-], the market share of the flash memory market also reached No. [-].

In the past two years, the prices of both DRAM and NAND have been falling, and the average price drop of 20% has undoubtedly impacted Samsung's semiconductor department, so it has been driven by various factors. Foundry.

Unlike SMIC and Bingxin, Samsung's external environment is unimpeded, and it has its own technology and funds. The initial stage is the introduction of the enviable 90nm technology.

As for the future behavior of the global market, Fang Zhuo has two known nodes. One is that Apple's first self-developed chip is handed over to Samsung as an OEM, and the other is that Liang Mengsong's team helps Samsung's rapid development of process technology.

But now sitting at the wine table and thinking about it, UMC, GlobalFoundries, and Intel are right on the stage. Samsung's attempt to compete with TSMC is really far away, like the next era.

Thinking about it again, Apple's release of the iPhone seems to be the next year.

Fang Zhuo shook his head slightly, and came back to think about it. It would take so long for a company like Samsung to make achievements in the foundry market... Bingxin needs more help from its brothers.

Always stay with me.

Hurry up and drink.

"Mr. Zhang, UMC's standard is also very high, and they are also vying for the 65nm process." Fang Zhuo chatted about another competitor.

Then, he looked at Jiang Shangzhou and asked, "I heard that UMC has a good attitude towards our side. Do you intend to set up a joint venture factory in Shencheng?"

Jiang Shangzhou confirmed: "Not only does Shencheng have plans, but Jinkui has basically finalized cooperation and will build an 8-inch fab with Shanghua Semiconductor."

He smiled and said: "Bingxin has made a good start. I believe that our semiconductors will develop better and faster."

Fang Zhuo was a little surprised. He did not expect that the cooperation between UMC and Shanghua was basically finalized.

For this reason, several people had another glass of wine together.

"UMC has strong technical strength, and this time it is willing to come to the mainland because it values ​​the future market prospects." Zhang Rujing said, "They will definitely try to produce 65nm this year, but TSMC's immersion lithography is another good move. It is still in UMC's Front."

He asked: "Boss Fang, did you purchase your lithography machine from Nikon?"

Fang Zhuo nodded: "Yes."

"TSMC may have obtained the prototype of ASML last year or even the year before, and immersion lithography is likely to bring about transformational development." Zhang Rujing was quite worried in his words, "Since they got 130 to now, they have really run on a fast track .”

"However..."

Zhang Rujing didn't go on with this sentence, but everyone knew the unfinished meaning behind it.

However, SMIC is deeply involved in lawsuits, which is a big blow to it, which is committed to catching up with the first-class level.

Others are in the fast lane, and I am squeezed into the slow lane. Every time I go back and forth, the gap becomes even bigger.

Don't look at SMIC's trial production of 90nm now. It seems that there is only one generation of process gap, but the other party has completely carried out mass production of immersion lithography technology, and the final result is higher yield rate and faster R&D. , Stronger competitiveness.

The Matthew effect in the field of wafer foundry is extremely obvious. The strong get stronger and the weak get weaker. Any lagging company will have similar worries.

Fang Zhuo especially sympathized with Zhang Rujing's feelings.

Hearing about the hegemony of the industry from the news and personally going out to engage in competing products to scrutinize each other are completely different feelings.

"Mr. Zhang, TSMC is even more powerful. GlobalFoundries and UMC have strong technologies. Samsung has also entered the market with partners and funds. The development of domestic semiconductors is still facing great challenges, but I still have confidence." Fang Zhuo toasted another glass of wine, "To be honest, I was inspired by SMIC to engage in ice cores. With SMIC, my confidence is also there."

He continued: "Mr. Zhang, I admire you very much, and I absolutely believe that SMIC, the domestic leader in semiconductors, can drive more development in the industry."

Zhang Rujing nodded to the district chief who was pouring wine for him, and said: "Mr. Fang, you really impress me. I really didn't expect you to make the ice core. To tell you something from the bottom of my heart, I once thought that you were trying to deceive me." Investors' money and administrative policies."

As soon as this is said...

That means drinking is a bit in place.

Say what?

It is said that the richest man in the mainland wants to defraud investors of their money?

Is it because the richest man has no money or is the investor too rich?
However, Fang Zhuo was not angry at all, and said disapprovingly: "If you want to cheat, you can use Internet projects to cheat money. What's the point of going so hard on semiconductors?"

When Zhang Rujing heard it, he thought it made sense.

"The ice core is not enough. Every time I go to Luzhou to see the progress and every time I have a meeting there, I have to mention SMIC and Mr. Zhang, calling on them to learn from SMIC." Fang Zhuo became more and more sincere .

"Mr. Zhang, Ice Core and SMIC are on the same front. Our equipment procurement and technology introduction are all facing the same situation, and we all have the same opponents."

"The country is good, both ice cores and SMICs are good, the domestic industrial chain is developed, and ice cores and SMICs are also developed."

"Mr. Zhang, tell me, don't you?"

Fang Zhuo touched Zhang Rujing's wine glass alone and took the lead in drinking it.

But Zhang Rujing didn't drink immediately, he raised his hand to his mouth and stopped again. After doing this twice, he still couldn't help but hold back the words in his heart: "Boss Fang, since we are on the same front..."

"You can't... at least, you shouldn't... a person who digs the core like this."

How did the engineers who can support the production line come from?

All are the output of well-known manufacturers at home and abroad!

Zhang Rujing has never criticized Bing Xin in public, but he does have a bit of a grudge, Fang Zong even poached his own Qiu Ciyun away!
Fang Zhuo pushed the empty wine glass towards Qiu Xiaoguan, neither in a hurry nor annoyed, neither arrogant nor impetuous, and said: "Mr. Zhang, I admire SMIC and you, and I really think that we are on the same front, so I will ask you a question." question."

"Am I the one who only digs the core?"

Without waiting for Zhang Rujing to answer, he asked himself and answered: "I treat everyone equally! It's not targeting SMIC, but I just want to get the project started."

Zhang Rujing: "?"

"Hua Hong, SMIC, TSMC, Special Semiconductor, our ice core engineers come from all corners of the country, just want to contribute to this industry." Fang Zhuo patted the table lightly, "Take Qiu Ciyun and Mr. Qiu. Say, is he blooming with greater value?"

"Without him, the Bingxin factory would not be able to operate at all!"

"I don't think SMIC is like TSMC. Between us, this is a friendly flow of talents."

"Let me just say that if one day, Qiu always thinks that SMIC is a better stage, and he tells me that he wants to return to SMIC, I will definitely not set up obstacles, and I will not make any non-compete agreements."

Sonorous and powerful.

Zhang Rujing stared into Mr. Fang's eyes, wondering if Jiu Jin was a bit over the top, and felt that there seemed to be some reason.

It is true that Qiu Ciyun has made greater progress in Bingxin, but, but...

He was stunned for a while, then sighed: "Qiu Ciyun, you are capable, even in SMIC you can be the president."

"I absolutely agree with Mr. Zhang's opinion. We agree on this point." Fang Zhuo nodded repeatedly.

You are so special.

Zhang Rujing shook his head and drank the wine he didn't drink just now.

"Speaking of Mr. Qiu, he is actually a lover." Fang Zhuo took a sip of his wine and became more energetic as he spoke, "Last time, just last time, we just heard about SMIC's lawsuit. Mr. Qiu and I They were all shocked."

He turned his head and asked Zhang Rujing: "On the night I texted you, Mr. Zhang, about the US market risk of the ITC ban."

Zhang Rujing nodded slightly. There was such a thing, but he didn't reply at the time. Later, he saw the media report that Mr. Fang was concerned about semiconductors and tears on the board of directors before returning.

"Mr. Qiu has feelings for SMIC. I admire him. He has been with SMIC until now. Even when he came to Bingxin, he often told stories about his past at SMIC." Fang Zhuo said precisely, "Just that night , We had a normal meeting, he talked about a second-hand equipment purchased by SMIC, and as he talked, he burst into tears."

"I'm an emotional person, and I also had difficulties when I met Bing Xin, and I almost shed tears."

"I don't know who went to the meeting to talk nonsense to the media, saying that I burst into tears at the meeting. That's a misrepresentation. It's actually Mr. Qiu."

"Mr. Zhang, he broke the bones and tendons to SMIC."

Su Wei has been watching silently, and only after hearing this did she confirm that Fang was always talking nonsense. At that time, Mr. Fang was obviously in Shencheng, and Mr. Qiu was in Luzhou. The two of them never had a meeting together...

But Zhang Rujing believed it.

Because he knows what kind of person Qiu Ciyun is, and he also knows that the other party must be aware of how difficult the situation SMIC is facing.

Zhang Rujing was speechless for a while, then shook his head and said, "It's not easy for everyone."

"Yes." Fang Zhuo nodded.

Seeing that the wine glasses of Mr. Zhang and Dr. Jiang were empty, he got up this time and took the wine bottle from Qiu Xiaoguan's hand and poured wine for the two of them. I also want to ask Mr. Zhang if there is anything I can do to help with the lawsuit in the United States."

Zhang Rujing said: "There should be a result of this matter in the near future. Mr. Fang, I will speak up if I have something to do. I hope that both SMIC and Icecore can contribute to the domestic industry."

Jiang Shangzhou also said at this time: "The domestic enterprises are all connected with each other. Mr. Fang, I understand that Bingxin needs talents to develop, but I have to say that your actions of poaching people are really a bit ruthless."

Fang Zhuo was silent.

He was silent for five seconds, and made a promise: "Mr. Zhang, Dr. Jiang, how about this, let's make a gentleman's appointment, and Bingxin will not poach people from SMIC in the future. Of course, we will not refuse to resign from SMIC normally." Talent, is this okay?"

Zhang Rujing and Jiang Shangzhou looked at each other in surprise, they didn't expect Mr. Fang to be so talkative.

This kind of poaching or not poaching can only be a private agreement, but the words of a person of Mr. Fang's status are somewhat effective.

Zhang Rujing felt that Mr. Fang really gave himself and SMIC a lot of face, and also felt that his previous words were a little more credible, so he gave a thumbs up, and then raised his glass: "Mr. Fang, there is no need to say, you are Shuangkuai, the two of us will cooperate more in the future, and Ice Xin will communicate more if there are any problems, and I will never hesitate to help."

Fang Zhuo clinked glasses with Mr. Zhang, drank the wine, and said without putting down the glass, "When Mr. Zhang said that, I really thought of a question."

Zhang Rujing wine is still in his neck, he feels that the Moutai has become cold along the esophagus.

He couldn't spit out the wine, he couldn't laugh or cry: "Boss Fang, tell me."

"Mr. Qiu told me something two days ago. He said that the factory in Luzhou was engaged in 130nm trial production. He said that it was always unsuccessful. Can you send SMIC experts to give guidance." Fang Zhuo relaxed Said.

The tone was too relaxed and casual.

Zhang Rujing felt that he had misheard, and asked, "What?"

"It's just that the 130nm risk trial production can't be done well, and there is something wrong with the process." Fang Zhuo said again, "Can Mr. Zhang help me to optimize and make this happen."

Zhang Rujing took a look at Jiang Shangzhou, confirming that he was not drinking too much, and even Dr. Jiang had a look of surprise on his face.

He laughed loudly: "Boss Fang, you really know how to joke."

Holding the wine glass, Fang Zhuo looked left and right, and said in astonishment: "Mr. Zhang, is this problem complicated?"

Zhang Rujing stopped talking.

Jiang Shangzhou looked at Boss Fang's expression, and suddenly wondered if Boss Fang really only cares about funds and doesn't care about technology, but then he dismissed the idea, it's impossible, if he didn't know the seriousness of the problem, how could there be such a meal?

"Mr. Zhang, if you say the number, Bing Xin is willing to pay the fee." Fang Zhuo continued.

Zhang Rujing frowned and said, "Boss Fang, it's not about money."

Jiang Shangzhou also said: "This involves the core technology of the process, Mr. Fang, it is indeed a bit difficult for others."

Fang Zhuo put the wine glass on the table angrily, and asked Zhang Rujing first: "Mr. Zhang, did I drink too much? I heard you say that we are on the same front."

He asked Jiang Shangzhou again: "Dr. Jiang, you just said that we are all in the same spirit."

"You haven't even finished drinking the wine, so you don't even count on turning around?"

"Chief Qiu, Mr. Su, tell me, did I mishear after drinking too much?"

Judy smiled: "This, this..."

He could see that Mr. Fang was messing around, but he also knew how much such a request was.

Su Wei said without hesitation: "I heard it, the juice I drank, I can hear it clearly."

Zhang Rujing said angrily: "Boss Su is on your side, her words don't count."

He shook his glass: "Even if I drink another bottle today, I still can't agree to your request."

Fang Zhuo was really angry.

He slapped the table heavily: "I thought Zhang was always the kind of unconstrained hero. Does SMIC need to hold on to the 130nm technology so tightly? TSMC, UMC, GlobalFoundries, which one has not mass-produced 130nm long ago? They are all rushing to 65nm!"

"If our domestic companies don't help each other at this time, when will they help each other?"

"Should I return Professor Hu Zhengming, who can do FinFET technology, to TSMC in exchange for the help of their experts?"

"Do I have to lower my head to beg foreigners?"

Zhang Rujing always slapped the table indifferently, shaking his head since hearing the first sentence, but suddenly stopped turning his head when he heard the middle sentence.

"Wait, Professor Hu Zhengming? Mr. Fang, let's talk about this."

(End of this chapter)

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