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Chapter 243 Heal the wounds of national culture, starting from my generation! (Please subscribe ~ monthly pass!)
"When it comes to Dunhuang, one name can never escape."

"Wang Daoist, Wang Yuanlu."

Li Shaojie named a person.

Wang Qian nodded.

Naturally, he was very familiar with this name.

Because, whether it is studying history, literature, art, or religion, as long as it involves Dunhuang, it is difficult to avoid this name.

"As Mr. Chen Yinke said, Dunhuang is the sad history of our country's academics!"

"There are only 1.37 Dunhuang manuscripts in China, 6000 in the British Museum, 1.2 in the Paris Library, 2000 in the Russian Institute of Ethnology, and [-] in the Library of the British Ministry of Indian Affairs."

"Neons, lighthouses, Austria, Sweden, and even China have collections of Dunhuang cultural relics."

Li Shaojie's words made Wang Qian's heart sink.

Although also know.

But when the huge and unimaginable numbers are in front of us, the huge loss is still shocking.

"The first time I knew the name Wang Yuanlu was from the "Taoist Tower" in Mr. Yu's "Cultural Journey" in the high school textbook. In the textbook, Mr. Yu belittled Wang Yuanlu as a national sinner. "

Li Shaojie spoke slowly.

But Wang Qian seemed to smell something different.

"It is undeniable that Wang Yuanlu is guilty."

"Wang Yuanlu, who lived in the late Qing Dynasty, was really ignorant. He drifted from childhood to the Qing army, and later became a Taoist priest. When he came to Mogao Grottoes, Taoist Wang felt that the murals were too coquettish and ostentatious, so he repainted and damaged some murals."

"But Wang Yuanlu, who was later ordained as a Taoist priest, was devout enough. He felt that as a Taoist disciple, even in a treasured place of Buddhism, he could not give up his faith and build a Taoist temple, but he destroyed several Buddha statues because of this."

Li Shaojie's words made people's blood pressure gradually rise.

But Wang Qian, who knew that period of history, was able to personally experience the feeling at that time.

"He discovered the Sutra Cave of Mogao Grottoes, which shocked the world. There are nearly 4 pieces of Buddhist scriptures, historical texts, silk paintings, embroidery, and magical artifacts from the 14th century to the 5th century AD."

"It is said that he sold a huge amount of Dunhuang cultural relics at a low price to Stein, a so-called British explorer who is actually a robber."

"But he is not greedy for money. He travels around and saves food and money. All the money is spent on repairing and maintaining the Mogao Grottoes."

Li Shaojie shook his head slowly.

But Wang Qian could tell that Li Shaojie's eyes were very clear.

As if without any glasses, evaluate such a controversial figure from an objective perspective.

"He doesn't know the specific value of these cultural relics, but he can know that these things are by no means general. The Taoist king with a firm belief naturally knows the significance of the scriptures for religion. Suddenly, he panicked."

"But do you know, his first reaction was not to keep it for himself, let alone to make money, but to take it in for protection."

Wang Qian listened quietly.

In fact, Wang Qian knew many things about it.

After all, before the interview, there is a systematic understanding of the guests.

I have a better understanding of some things about Li Shaojie's new works, as well as some background things.

After all, this interview is mainly because of Li Shaojie's new work.

"Mr. Yu's so-called [Wang Daoist took a little bit of cultural relics from time to time and sent them back and forth in the officialdom] is actually nonsense. As a humble man, he walked fifty miles with two volumes of scriptures. See the county master in the county seat."

"Unexpectedly, the county master said that these are just yellowed waste paper."

"Unreconciled, he waited until the county magistrate was changed to meet again, but the second county magistrate just picked up a few volumes of scriptures and walked away, but Taoist Wang still did not give up, so he went 800 miles and saw Daotai Court Dong, in the end, the Daotai lord laughed and said [the characters on it are not as good-looking as my calligraphy]."

Li Shaojie shook his head.

His expression was slightly resentful.

But the clarity in his eyes was still full of reason.

"I bumped into the wall again and again, but it didn't make Taoist Wang flinch. Gansu Xuezheng Ye Changchi knew the goods, but he only asked for items for research, and did not effectively protect the scripture cave. He just left a sentence [check the scriptures and save them here]."

"Wang Daoist, who was disappointed with the official, even wrote directly to Lafayette, but at that time, the Qing Dynasty was precarious and in danger, so he didn't care about these things at all. Therefore, Dunhuang, the most splendid culture, continued to be ignored by this ordinary man. Taoist Wang is in charge."

Sigh lightly.

While telling the story of Taoist Wang's difficult journey, Li Shaojie mentioned a name that made people bite their teeth.

The so-called explorer bandit!
"Later, Stein, the so-called British Jewish explorer, came to the Mogao Grottoes, led by his assistant, Mr. Jiang, with a permit issued by local officials, and wanted to see the scriptures in the cave."

"Wang Taoist saw that it was a foreigner, so he flatly refused."

"But how dare an ordinary Taoist priest resist a foreign [explorer] led by the official at that time?"

"This bandit didn't give up, and even made up a set of monks from the Tang Dynasty to learn scriptures from the west, and now he came from India to collect the stories of the monk's scriptures, and deceived Taoist Wang, so he was able to read the scriptures."

Trick, cheat!
There are also formal documents and procedures.

This wave is like flying dragons riding on their faces.

Perhaps, from the current perspective, many people would not believe this nonsense at all.

But these words, for a little person who is a bit ignorant and also believes in religion
But very convincing.

"In the end, Stein wanted to buy scriptures, but Taoist Wang reluctantly compromised because he needed money to clean the cave, build a Taoist temple, and repair and maintain the scripture cave."

"Later, the French, the neon people, the lighthouse people. Some people even violently glued away the murals."

"When the Dunhuang culture became famous overseas, the Qing Dynasty, who realized the value of the Buddhist scriptures cave, really panicked. They allocated 6000 taels of silver and ordered them to be transported to the capital. 6000 taels."

"In the process of transporting cultural relics from Dunhuang to the capital, due to layers of exploitation, the cultural relics were corrupted by officials passing by, causing another loss of the only remaining cultural relics."

Li Shaojie shook his head helplessly.

With the general situation like this, Wang Yuanlu's life of poverty can only highlight the helplessness and pity of the little people at that time.

"He is just an insignificant person. The crime he committed was ignorance, and the merit he left was sincerity."

"At least, in my opinion, he is more like a selfless person than Zhang Daqian, who is selfish, and Mr. Yu Qiuyu, who doesn't hurt his back while standing and talking."

Li Shaojie rolled his eyes.

Obviously admire Mr. Yu's academic achievements.

But standing on the moral high ground and accusing others, the first thing is to be flawless.

Anyway, Li Shaojie must not be able to abandon his wife of more than ten years.

"Actually, I agree with what Mr. Yu Qiuyu said, [this is a huge national tragedy] [the ancient nation is bleeding], and I agree even more with what he said. Later, scholars who studied Dunhuang had to buy it from foreign museums in humiliation time and time again. The submission of Dunhuang literature."

"But all those who abandon the social background at that time and stand on the moral high ground to criticize, in my opinion, it is true that they don't hurt their backs when they stand up and talk."

Li Shaojie shook his head.

After all, no one is perfect.

In the face of the history of blood and tears in Dunhuang, Mr. Yu should be angry.

But in Li Shaojie's view, there is really no need to stand on the moral high ground and blame one person for his mistakes.

"I don't think we can [pour the flood of anger on him], nor should we be so hasty to nail him to the national shame."

"Because, if you want to quickly find a target to vent your inner rage, all you want to cover up is your own incompetence, cowardice, and humbleness. The abbreviation is incompetent rage."

"Why don't you hate the Qing court? Why don't you hate the incompetent officials, why don't you hate the greedy invaders?"

"You want to vent your anger on a small person, right? It's because you can't afford to offend other people, and you only dare to criticize the small person?"

Naturally, the cultural relics were plundered.

But as the national power gradually becomes stronger, it is not a dream to return cultural relics to the country!
Over the past 70 years, more than 15 pieces of cultural relics have been returned to China one after another, and countless people have worked hard for them.

Although, in 47 countries and 200 museums, these 164 million cultural relics are very small compared to all the 1000 million cultural relics lost overseas, and the 15 returned are also small numbers.

Although it is long, but with the development of time, the hope is endless!
After all, it's always ours.

In contrast, in Li Shaojie's view, violent destruction is the most unforgivable, such as a certain Daqian.

You draw it, you have fun, but it is destroyed, no matter how the technology develops, it is impossible to recover.

Unless a time machine is invented.

"I am also angry, but I am angry at the fatuous Qing court, at the incompetent officials, and at those robbers."

"As for Daoist Wang, I can only feel the hesitation in his heart at that time, the cooking of morality, and even the helplessness of asking for heaven but not for earth."

"He is certainly a sinner of national culture."

"But he is also just an ordinary person who can't change anything. There is no need to nail him to the pillar of shame. Yu Gong's words are biased in my opinion. However, Chinese people are also angry when they encounter such things. Within reason."

Man is not God, and everything is not absolute.

Li Shaojie is not a meaningless Madonna.

Nor is it some compassionate saint.

Just put yourself in the other place and think about it, and that sense of despair hits your face.

"It was a sad age, not one person's crime. Instead of criticizing kings and Taoists, it is better to criticize incompetent and upright officials, greedy robbers, and those so-called selfish people in the name of art, knowing the value, but stripping the surface painting. The so-called artist Zhang Daqian who copied the base painting, inscribed graffiti, and destroyed his own graffiti twice and three times.”

"It is true that Zhang Daqian played a very great role in painting, but what he did in Dunhuang will always be the most serious stain on his moral character."

Li Shaojie shook his head.

Again.

Man is not God, and everything is not absolute.

At least, Zhang Daqian is enough to be called Mr. Zhang Daqian all the way in painting.

But what happened in Dunhuang is indeed worthy of criticism.

However, what the artist did is still controversial.

Then, there is absolutely no room for whitewashing the hatefulness of the invaders! !

The ones who should be nailed to the pillar of historical shame are the fatuous Qing court, the incompetent officials, and the arrogance of the [scriptures are not as good as my calligraphy]! !

It is those robbers who should be nailed to the pillar of historical shame! !
"Cultural wounds are not caused by one person, and there is no need to fight among ourselves."

Li Shaojie smiled slightly, his eyes were obviously much sharper.

"I said this not to criticize Mr. Daqian, or to deny Mr. Yu, but to express a truth."

"When things have already happened, don't blame the sky and others, but do it, do it, be incompetent and furious, it is useless, and there is no reason to blame the mistake on one person!!"

"The ones who really need to be attacked are those bandits who claim to be explorers!!"

"Stolen, robbed, and defrauded cultural relics are placed in their own museums majestically. This really makes me wonder why human beings can be so shameless."

Li Shaojie sneered.

"It is called a treasure discovered by a great explorer in the East, but it cannot conceal the nature of a robber at all."

"The robbers in the bones can't be buried in the skin of a gentleman at all. I think the Parthenon must also feel the pain of the looting of cultural relics."

"The tuxedo covered their bloodthirsty hearts, and God became a shield for their evil. Even now, many peoples who have been poisoned by them are in pain. I can even foresee that my words will be used by those humble islands. The people use the hat of communism to attack, but they completely forget the beastly behavior they once committed."

Li Shaojie became more and more elated.

It seems like it hasn't been this cool in a long time.

"The candle of human nature is faltering, but the evil animal nature is deeply rooted. In our Northeast dialect, it is a livestock, a whole donkey and horse are rotten."

"It's really a stinky tofu mask on the face as a culture medium, stinky shameless!"

"Look at their so-called Royal Museum, how many pieces are their own? After reading the whole article, there is only one word, burn, kill, loot!!"

Damn it, it's numb!
Hearing Jetlin's beeping fire, Wang Qian was so hung up that she didn't burst.

The eyes are listening straight.

This man is worthy of being the king of poisonous tongues in the new era. Although he didn't have any bad words, his curses were extremely vicious.

This episode probably won't air.

The approximate meaning may be expressible, but.
It's better to control it a little bit if you spray directly on your face, at least don't report your ID number so name-by-name, whether there should be a fig leaf or not.

What the hell is a donkey and a rotten son?Can this thing play? !
"The loss of Dunhuang cultural relics should not be attributed to any individual. It is a mockery of history for the weak and deceitful us. We should not shirk our responsibility, but face it and shoulder the mission entrusted to us by history."

Li Shaojie smiled slightly.

Unexpectedly, it became serious.

"What happened in the previous dynasty cannot be changed. The road to heal the wounds of national culture is long and long, but it should start from my generation!!"

Wang Qian breathed a sigh of relief.

Big brother, finally you know the ending.

Otherwise, I must change the subject.
At this time, Wang Qian began to doubt life a little.

Lu Datou seems to have interviewed Li Shaojie.

How could that colleague with such a broken professional level cope with Li Shaojie?

Vigorously miracle?
"."

Wang Qian chuckled and turned the scene calmly.

We started to chat about Li Shaojie's creation.

Returning to music, the topic began to become lighter.

Talk and laugh.

But soon, I don't know why.

Perhaps because the connotation of the work cannot be avoided, it also talked about topics that are prone to controversy.

After all, although Li Shaojie's original research ideas were mainly based on Buddhism.

The thought that the work wants to express is also the philosophy of Buddhism itself.

But inevitably, religion and references to religious music will still be involved.

After Li Shaojie explained the difference between Buddhism and Buddhism, Wang Qian asked.

"So, in your opinion, you actually want to use some elements of religious music, but what you actually express is philosophy?"

"Yes!"

Li Shaojie nodded.

"Buddhist music has been developed for so many years, and it naturally has its brilliance. If you want to express Buddhist culture, Buddhist music cannot be avoided, especially the way many Buddhist music is processed is very unique and marked."

"Then Shaojie, what do you think about religion? Do you believe in anything?"

"I believe in Uncle Ma, atheist, and proletarian."

Li Shaojie curled his lips and directly stated his position.

Before Wang Qian could say anything, Li Shaojie spoke.

"Philosophy and religion are fundamentally different."

"And actually."

Speaking of this, Li Shaojie shook his head suddenly.

"When I was studying religious music, I saw a lot of them, whether abroad or at home, but I found one thing, they prayed, worshiped, prayed to God, and worshiped Buddha."

"But I really want to ask."

Li Shaojie raised his head suddenly.

Wang Qian couldn't help being taken aback by what she said.

"Many people, are they worshiping Buddha, or are they worshiping their own desires?"

"If you really believe it, maybe it's okay."

"But if you just make an excuse for your own desires, I don't think such a person is a believer."

Shaking his head, Li Shaojie smiled slightly.

In fact, there are not many such people, or even many.

"I don't even dare to look directly at my own desires. I only dare to pin them on the gods and Buddhas, and then pray humblely, expecting the accident called a miracle. I call such a person a waste!"

"Really, believe me, hospital wards often hear more prayers than churches and temples."

At this moment, Wang Qian's scalp was numb.

Brother Jie really dares to say anything! !
Before she knew it, Wang Qian even called Li Shaojie her brother in her heart.

Absolutely.

Is this show still on the air? !
"not bad."

Wang Qian smiled slightly, and it was time for the show to end.

It's just that the smile is somewhat stiff.

"Finally, I would like to thank Mr. Li Shaojie for accepting our exclusive interview."

Immediately facing the camera, waved with Li Shaojie.

"Then, audience friends, see you next time."

"Goodbye."

The recording finally ended.

Wang Qian breathed a sigh of relief.

Can't help but ask Li Shaojie teasingly.

"Shaojie, you have to take a closer look later to see if there is anything to cut."

"No, there is nothing to cut."

Li Shaojie looked upright, as if he was not afraid of causing controversy at all.

"What I say is either objective reality, or neutral and pertinent, nothing to be afraid of."

"?"

Wang Qian was a little dazed and couldn't help confirming again.

"Really not?"

"No!!"

Li Shaojie smiled slightly, bursting with confidence.

"As long as it can be played, then play it all, don't cut it!"

Wang Qian was numb.

To be honest, broadcasting, it is definitely possible to broadcast.

After all, Li Shaojie is just a musician, and if he casually speaks his own thoughts, it will not cause any serious consequences.

But predictably, a lot of speech.
Controversy is absolutely indispensable! !

"Aren't you afraid of causing controversy?"

Wang Qian was indeed a little worried for Li Shaojie.

These words, can not say will cause a lot of controversy.

If there is controversy, there will naturally be a large number of brainless scolders!

And Li Shaojie's personality and mouth.
I'm afraid this matter will be difficult to end.

"Afraid? What's so scary? Just relying on the mouth of the trash?"

Li Shaojie smiled disdainfully.

"A horse that travels thousands of miles does not wash away the sand!!"

"Those who want to do great things really care about other people's words?"

"Besides, if you have the guts, then lane. When do you think I was afraid?"

Wang Qian was dumbfounded.

For a moment, he was speechless!

　obviously.

　　Jetlin is about to turn on berserk mode.

　　This time spraying people will be more in-depth.

　　The matter of Yu Qiuyu and Zhang Daqian cannot be killed with a single shot.

　　Treat them separately and dialectically unify them, because no one is perfect.

　　As for religion and philosophy, I typed out more than 300 words.

　　After thinking about it, forget it, firstly, it is too watery, and secondly,
　　I was afraid that I would be blocked if I said it.

　　Religion is a product of philosophical practice, but because it has changed from thought to human organization, it naturally divides classes and begins to serve individuals or interest groups in the name of "God" (not absolute, but there are problems in this regard) .

　　It is very important to deify an image that cannot be offended.

　　As for Ma Zhe, it has both the essence of philosophy and practice, so is it considered a religion?
　　It doesn’t count, because it doesn’t deify an image that cannot be offended (the wrong line is not counted), it is essentially based on the essence of philosophy, and unlike other philosophical evolutionary religions, Ma Zhe’s essence serves the people. It is a very special practice in itself.

　　(I think the most important thing is that there has never been monotheism, and gods and Buddhas are flying all over the sky, so even if we are superstitious, what we believe in is a bunch of messy things, and we cannot form a systematic monotheism like the West. , monotheism is no longer possible.)
　　Chinese gods, I think, are more like gods that conform to various laws of nature.

　　Many of them are human beings themselves, but have made outstanding contributions and become immortals and gods.

　　Moreover, a single god is never omnipotent. Even the Supreme Lord is just the incarnation of Tao and the incarnation of nature.

　　These long-winded chatter should be regarded as small talk, not hydrology.

　　
　
(End of this chapter)