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Chapter 896 Chapter 897 Continue to Throw Money and Collect Coins
Chapter 896 Chapter 897 Continue to Throw Money and Collect Coins
When Chen Fan was talking, Second Brother Wang had already waved his hand and interrupted him.
"I understand what you mean. In fact, you use the natural gambling nature of people to attract those people with the fluctuation of bitcoin prices.
In fact, it is similar to speculating in stocks, but your thing is actually far from stocks.
Stocks represent at least part of the equity of listed companies, although 1 share and 2 shares are actually useless.
Your thing is even more useless.
But, from the perspective of doing business, setting up an exchange is convenient for them to trade. We just invest a little money in the initial stage to disturb the price. As long as the market is cultivated, we can let it go by itself.
As for the transaction fee in the middle, as long as the price of Bitcoin is a little higher and the transaction volume is active, it is really a profitable thing. "
Brother Wang commented now.
"How do I feel that this exchange you run is actually a casino?"
Zhang Jianjun said suddenly, "Around Bitcoin, it depends on whether you bet big or small."
"The stock market is also called a casino, it depends on how you treat it."
Chen Fan laughed.
"Yeah, to the average person, the stock market is a casino, betting that the price of that stock will go up because they can make money doing it.
But for others, the stock market is a place to put their money, investing in companies they think are valuable, and the companies will generate profits that bring them more money.
Only a very few people will use it, and the stock market is a place for capital transactions. "
Zhang Jianjun nodded and said.
"Good companies in the stock market can create value, but this bitcoin seems to have nothing, it is a set of numbers that exist in the network."
Second Brother Wang said, "Okay, let's not talk about it, let's go too far, what are you thinking about?"
Hearing what Second Brother Wang said, Chen Fan and Zheng Xiaopang looked at each other again and said, "The exchange, now that the Bitcoin market is like that, seems inconspicuous, and even feels like a game prop. trading platform.
In fact, I was not interested in this thing at first, but I knew from Xiaopang that more and more people are playing with it now. Although I still don’t understand it, since it can become hot, it naturally makes sense.
Since no one cares about it being popular, with our support, I think it will become even more popular.
At that time, the exchange becomes more sensitive.
As I said earlier, players who play coins are all over the world, and everyone only communicates through the Internet, whether it is buying or selling.
Once the market is heated up by us, the flow of funds may also be multiplied. At that time, it will inevitably involve the definition of this thing by the government department, and it will involve regulatory issues. "
"Are you worried that you have invested the cost, and when you see the benefits in the end, someone will use various reasons to deal with you, and even close your exchange in the name of illegal trading?"
Second brother Wang stared at Chen Fan with wide eyes, looking very surprised.
"Probably more than that."
At this time, Zhang Jianjun suddenly interjected.
"Did you find out that because of the particularity of Bitcoin generation, this thing is easy to be used as a tool for money laundering."
"Money laundering?"
Hearing Zhang Jianjun's words, Chen Fan became a little restless.
Of course he knew what money laundering was. He felt that something was missing before, but now it seemed that it was actually here.
"Black money, dirty money, by buying bitcoins, and then the bitcoins are transferred to an electronic wallet, right."
As Zhang Jianjun said, he looked at Zheng Xiaopang, and did not continue until Zheng Xiaopang nodded: "They only need to carry out complex transactions between several electronic wallets, and new holders can register our transactions online. platform, and then sell the bitcoins.
The money sold is clean, as for explaining the origin of Bitcoin?
I dug it myself, it's easy to say.How do you check? ? "
"Transactions can be found on the blockchain and tracked by locking bitcoin transfers in electronic wallets."
Chen Fan didn't know this, but Zheng Xiaopang did.
"There will be records on the block, but it is very troublesome to check."
Zheng Xiaopang explained: "However, there is a way to circumvent what you say, that is, only the market price of Bitcoin is used to determine the value of the transaction, and there is no need to involve cash.
Because of the privacy of electronic wallets, even if you find out that the owner of the wallet may have problems, as long as he is not tied to a real-world bank account or something that can reveal his identity, it will be difficult for you to determine who he is.
They can use Bitcoin to circulate outside the trading system and settle at the price of the exchange, so you have no choice. "
"You mean illegal transactions involved?"
Chen Fan asked in horror.
Zheng Xiaopang nodded, with a helpless expression on his face.
Anything that is manufactured may be used for illegal activities, and this cannot be stopped.
"What if our exchange has a real-name system?"
Chen Fan suddenly said, in his opinion, it seems that only this one can effectively avoid the problem of someone using Bitcoin to launder money.
"Whoever trades on an exchange and obtains bitcoins can be found, so what you said doesn't exist."
"It's useless."
Zheng Xiaopang shook his head, "The main thing they do is to turn black money into bitcoins. The police followed the black money transfer to the exchange, and they could find his bitcoin e-wallet, but they couldn't seal it up. He got the key of the electronic wallet in his mouth.
But before that, he may have transferred the bitcoins in the wallet to other electronic wallets created by people he does not know according to other people's instructions, and you will never be able to find out where these funds are going. "
"The exchange won't take responsibility for this?"
Chen Fan was surprised and said that he had consulted Lin Haotian before, but it was from the safety of the transaction, that is, how to make some preparations in advance in the event of a dispute between the exchange and the customer.
But now they say that it seems that the market potential of bitcoin seems to be greater, and black money is involved.
Now when the value of the currency is small, those people definitely look down on this thing, and the market has not been cultivated, and they will not admit it under the premise that it is difficult to realize it.
But with the exchange, the situation is completely different.
At that time, as the person who proposed to create a bitcoin exchange, will he suffer from it?
Chen Fan suddenly realized that he seemed to have opened a Pandora's box.
"Not that serious."
But when Chen Fan was thinking wildly, Second Brother Wang waved his hand and said, "There are also people laundering money in the financial market, but I have never seen exchanges and trading institutions being punished."
Having said that, Second Brother Wang smacked his lips, "I probably understand what you mean, but actually it doesn't cost much to make this thing, right?"
After saying that, Second Brother Wang looked at Chen Fan.
Chen Fan nodded, "It's true that the investment is not large. You don't need to choose a venue, as long as you have a network connection. As for the hardware investment, it is actually a server, that is, a slightly better large-scale computer, for data processing.
It's expensive, but not worth it.
The most important thing is to build and improve the platform. This requires some experts, especially in terms of security. In fact, the maintenance is mainly due to the salary expenditure of these people. "
Chen Fan told what he learned from Li Yihong before.
"I want to attract more people to buy shares, so that when there is a problem, someone will help to support it.
No wonder you want to talk to us about such a small business. "
Second brother Wang stroked his chin and fell into deep thought. In fact, as far as he saw so far, this business was really small, and it was not worth his effort at all.
However, he soon thought of something that Chen Fan and Zheng Xiaopang didn't say clearly. This thing is small and controllable. Although they didn't clearly say how to use this thing to make money, Second Brother Wang is still keenly aware of it. There is a deal With blessings, the value of this bitcoin, which you don't know what it looks like, can skyrocket or plummet.
Of course, that is the business of players who play Bitcoin. The exchanges they open are mainly for the commission in the process of Bitcoin transactions.
If the market really gets bigger, it will really be a profitable business. You can sit and collect money without doing anything, but the risk is a bit high.
The most troublesome thing is the policy risk, which is really hard to say.
A few people have already talked about it before, this thing can be used for illegal transactions, but this is actually Wang Erge not worried at all.
Money is also used illegally by illegal organizations, and I haven't seen anyone saying that money should be banned, but I really don't know what to do.
"Well, I won't be able to make a decision for a while, I'll think about it when I get down, and we'll talk later.
Jianjun, you should also think about it and find someone to consult.
Next week, we will still meet here on weekends, and then I will call several other people, and we will discuss together whether this thing can be done. "
The second brother Wang is still not too reassured about this new thing, and thinks it takes more time to find someone to ask and understand the situation.
Chen Fan felt that this thing was a bit hot, so there must be some taboos.
Of course, these are not the main reasons. What really makes him unwilling to express his position is that he is not familiar with this so-called "Bitcoin" at all.
From Zhang Jianjun and Chen Fan's words, he also heard that all the sources point to Zheng Xiaopang.
Although he believed that Zheng Xiaopang would not lie to him, the key was whether or not this thing was valuable.
If Bitcoin is something that is not on the table and has limited benefits, then there is no need to go through this muddy water.
Go back and find someone to ask and evaluate whether there is a market for this bitcoin.
I sat and drank tea for a while, but no one in the room planned to go upstairs, they were all pretentious and didn't want to go up to have fun, so Second Brother Wang called the upstairs guys, and the four of them One will withdraw first.
They went downstairs and got into their cars to go home. Zheng Xiaopang didn't ask the driver to drive his own car over today. He came by Chen Fan's car, so naturally he got into the same car as Chen Fan.
"Do you think Second Brother Wang will participate in this matter?"
Zheng Xiaopang asked suddenly, it was already the beginning of the day, and the bright street lights on the side of the road came in through the car window, and the expression on Chen Fan's face was still very clear.
Chen Fan shook his head, "I don't know."
After speaking, Chen Fan closed his eyes and leaned back on the chair to fall asleep.
"I still think this thing can be done."
Zheng Xiaopang saw that Chen Fan didn't seem to want to talk about it, but he didn't want to just let Chen Fan go, so he continued to talk.
Chen Fan opened his eyes and looked at Zheng Xiaopang, "Nonsense, if we can't do it, why should we do it?"
"Then what do they think? The investment is not big, but once it is done, it is still very profitable."
Zheng Xiaopang said puzzledly.
"That's what we think, do they think so, I think they should find someone to ask about it these days.
As long as they recognize the potential value of this thing, I don't think they will refuse.
But the trouble now is that Bitcoin is such a big market, how can it make them feel that they are doing something. "
Chen Fan said in embarrassment.
"It's simple. I'll contact you immediately to push up the value of Bitcoin. Before, we have been collecting coins around 5%. Now it has been increased to 6%. affect their judgement."
Speaking of this, Zheng Xiaopang immediately took out his mobile phone, found a phone number, and dialed it. After the call was connected, he quickly passed the new order to him, not caring about Chen Fan's reaction at all.
Chen Fan just smiled, shook his head, and said nothing.
At this time, pushing up the currency value cannot be said to have no effect, maybe there is, but it is definitely not the main thing.
Chen Fan estimates that in the next two days, Second Brother Wang or Zhang Jianjun will arrange someone to conduct a thorough investigation of the currency circle, investigate the development of this circle, and see if it is really attractive. If there is money, they will naturally intervene up.
Tonight seems to be a little rash. I should have talked to Zhang Jianjun about this matter alone before, and asked him to investigate first. With the information, maybe I can directly persuade Second Brother Wang to intervene in this matter.
He is not worried that he will be kicked away by the second brother Wang. In fact, in this project, the exchange is only a part that can generate stable income. The real money is hoarding coins and setting up computer mining units in the current environment. , as long as you have enough bitcoins in your hands, you will get the most benefits in the process of this market development.
Thinking of this, Chen Fan turned his head and said to Zheng Xiaopang who had just put down his phone: "You can contact Li Yihong by the way and ask him to send the person I want to the Imperial Capital tomorrow morning. We must hurry up and start this computer coin digging project." thing.
Also, now that the coins are collected at 6%, you should keep an eye on them later. Once all the coins on the market are collected by us, we will raise the price in time. It doesn’t matter if the price is high, after all, it is less than 1 meter cent.
In short, regardless of whether they do this thing or not, they will give me tens of thousands of dollars to do it first, and get some more bitcoins. This is the fundamental. "
"it is good."
Hearing Chen Fan's next few words, Zheng Xiaopang also reacted.
Indeed, the institution of the exchange should be able to make money, but this is something that will happen after the market develops.
To make an exchange, the most important thing is to improve and simplify the transaction and increase the price of Bitcoin.
Of course, they also want to obtain some transaction information by controlling the exchange.
It's simple to think of it this way, whoever has more bitcoins will earn the most.
(End of this chapter)
When Chen Fan was talking, Second Brother Wang had already waved his hand and interrupted him.
"I understand what you mean. In fact, you use the natural gambling nature of people to attract those people with the fluctuation of bitcoin prices.
In fact, it is similar to speculating in stocks, but your thing is actually far from stocks.
Stocks represent at least part of the equity of listed companies, although 1 share and 2 shares are actually useless.
Your thing is even more useless.
But, from the perspective of doing business, setting up an exchange is convenient for them to trade. We just invest a little money in the initial stage to disturb the price. As long as the market is cultivated, we can let it go by itself.
As for the transaction fee in the middle, as long as the price of Bitcoin is a little higher and the transaction volume is active, it is really a profitable thing. "
Brother Wang commented now.
"How do I feel that this exchange you run is actually a casino?"
Zhang Jianjun said suddenly, "Around Bitcoin, it depends on whether you bet big or small."
"The stock market is also called a casino, it depends on how you treat it."
Chen Fan laughed.
"Yeah, to the average person, the stock market is a casino, betting that the price of that stock will go up because they can make money doing it.
But for others, the stock market is a place to put their money, investing in companies they think are valuable, and the companies will generate profits that bring them more money.
Only a very few people will use it, and the stock market is a place for capital transactions. "
Zhang Jianjun nodded and said.
"Good companies in the stock market can create value, but this bitcoin seems to have nothing, it is a set of numbers that exist in the network."
Second Brother Wang said, "Okay, let's not talk about it, let's go too far, what are you thinking about?"
Hearing what Second Brother Wang said, Chen Fan and Zheng Xiaopang looked at each other again and said, "The exchange, now that the Bitcoin market is like that, seems inconspicuous, and even feels like a game prop. trading platform.
In fact, I was not interested in this thing at first, but I knew from Xiaopang that more and more people are playing with it now. Although I still don’t understand it, since it can become hot, it naturally makes sense.
Since no one cares about it being popular, with our support, I think it will become even more popular.
At that time, the exchange becomes more sensitive.
As I said earlier, players who play coins are all over the world, and everyone only communicates through the Internet, whether it is buying or selling.
Once the market is heated up by us, the flow of funds may also be multiplied. At that time, it will inevitably involve the definition of this thing by the government department, and it will involve regulatory issues. "
"Are you worried that you have invested the cost, and when you see the benefits in the end, someone will use various reasons to deal with you, and even close your exchange in the name of illegal trading?"
Second brother Wang stared at Chen Fan with wide eyes, looking very surprised.
"Probably more than that."
At this time, Zhang Jianjun suddenly interjected.
"Did you find out that because of the particularity of Bitcoin generation, this thing is easy to be used as a tool for money laundering."
"Money laundering?"
Hearing Zhang Jianjun's words, Chen Fan became a little restless.
Of course he knew what money laundering was. He felt that something was missing before, but now it seemed that it was actually here.
"Black money, dirty money, by buying bitcoins, and then the bitcoins are transferred to an electronic wallet, right."
As Zhang Jianjun said, he looked at Zheng Xiaopang, and did not continue until Zheng Xiaopang nodded: "They only need to carry out complex transactions between several electronic wallets, and new holders can register our transactions online. platform, and then sell the bitcoins.
The money sold is clean, as for explaining the origin of Bitcoin?
I dug it myself, it's easy to say.How do you check? ? "
"Transactions can be found on the blockchain and tracked by locking bitcoin transfers in electronic wallets."
Chen Fan didn't know this, but Zheng Xiaopang did.
"There will be records on the block, but it is very troublesome to check."
Zheng Xiaopang explained: "However, there is a way to circumvent what you say, that is, only the market price of Bitcoin is used to determine the value of the transaction, and there is no need to involve cash.
Because of the privacy of electronic wallets, even if you find out that the owner of the wallet may have problems, as long as he is not tied to a real-world bank account or something that can reveal his identity, it will be difficult for you to determine who he is.
They can use Bitcoin to circulate outside the trading system and settle at the price of the exchange, so you have no choice. "
"You mean illegal transactions involved?"
Chen Fan asked in horror.
Zheng Xiaopang nodded, with a helpless expression on his face.
Anything that is manufactured may be used for illegal activities, and this cannot be stopped.
"What if our exchange has a real-name system?"
Chen Fan suddenly said, in his opinion, it seems that only this one can effectively avoid the problem of someone using Bitcoin to launder money.
"Whoever trades on an exchange and obtains bitcoins can be found, so what you said doesn't exist."
"It's useless."
Zheng Xiaopang shook his head, "The main thing they do is to turn black money into bitcoins. The police followed the black money transfer to the exchange, and they could find his bitcoin e-wallet, but they couldn't seal it up. He got the key of the electronic wallet in his mouth.
But before that, he may have transferred the bitcoins in the wallet to other electronic wallets created by people he does not know according to other people's instructions, and you will never be able to find out where these funds are going. "
"The exchange won't take responsibility for this?"
Chen Fan was surprised and said that he had consulted Lin Haotian before, but it was from the safety of the transaction, that is, how to make some preparations in advance in the event of a dispute between the exchange and the customer.
But now they say that it seems that the market potential of bitcoin seems to be greater, and black money is involved.
Now when the value of the currency is small, those people definitely look down on this thing, and the market has not been cultivated, and they will not admit it under the premise that it is difficult to realize it.
But with the exchange, the situation is completely different.
At that time, as the person who proposed to create a bitcoin exchange, will he suffer from it?
Chen Fan suddenly realized that he seemed to have opened a Pandora's box.
"Not that serious."
But when Chen Fan was thinking wildly, Second Brother Wang waved his hand and said, "There are also people laundering money in the financial market, but I have never seen exchanges and trading institutions being punished."
Having said that, Second Brother Wang smacked his lips, "I probably understand what you mean, but actually it doesn't cost much to make this thing, right?"
After saying that, Second Brother Wang looked at Chen Fan.
Chen Fan nodded, "It's true that the investment is not large. You don't need to choose a venue, as long as you have a network connection. As for the hardware investment, it is actually a server, that is, a slightly better large-scale computer, for data processing.
It's expensive, but not worth it.
The most important thing is to build and improve the platform. This requires some experts, especially in terms of security. In fact, the maintenance is mainly due to the salary expenditure of these people. "
Chen Fan told what he learned from Li Yihong before.
"I want to attract more people to buy shares, so that when there is a problem, someone will help to support it.
No wonder you want to talk to us about such a small business. "
Second brother Wang stroked his chin and fell into deep thought. In fact, as far as he saw so far, this business was really small, and it was not worth his effort at all.
However, he soon thought of something that Chen Fan and Zheng Xiaopang didn't say clearly. This thing is small and controllable. Although they didn't clearly say how to use this thing to make money, Second Brother Wang is still keenly aware of it. There is a deal With blessings, the value of this bitcoin, which you don't know what it looks like, can skyrocket or plummet.
Of course, that is the business of players who play Bitcoin. The exchanges they open are mainly for the commission in the process of Bitcoin transactions.
If the market really gets bigger, it will really be a profitable business. You can sit and collect money without doing anything, but the risk is a bit high.
The most troublesome thing is the policy risk, which is really hard to say.
A few people have already talked about it before, this thing can be used for illegal transactions, but this is actually Wang Erge not worried at all.
Money is also used illegally by illegal organizations, and I haven't seen anyone saying that money should be banned, but I really don't know what to do.
"Well, I won't be able to make a decision for a while, I'll think about it when I get down, and we'll talk later.
Jianjun, you should also think about it and find someone to consult.
Next week, we will still meet here on weekends, and then I will call several other people, and we will discuss together whether this thing can be done. "
The second brother Wang is still not too reassured about this new thing, and thinks it takes more time to find someone to ask and understand the situation.
Chen Fan felt that this thing was a bit hot, so there must be some taboos.
Of course, these are not the main reasons. What really makes him unwilling to express his position is that he is not familiar with this so-called "Bitcoin" at all.
From Zhang Jianjun and Chen Fan's words, he also heard that all the sources point to Zheng Xiaopang.
Although he believed that Zheng Xiaopang would not lie to him, the key was whether or not this thing was valuable.
If Bitcoin is something that is not on the table and has limited benefits, then there is no need to go through this muddy water.
Go back and find someone to ask and evaluate whether there is a market for this bitcoin.
I sat and drank tea for a while, but no one in the room planned to go upstairs, they were all pretentious and didn't want to go up to have fun, so Second Brother Wang called the upstairs guys, and the four of them One will withdraw first.
They went downstairs and got into their cars to go home. Zheng Xiaopang didn't ask the driver to drive his own car over today. He came by Chen Fan's car, so naturally he got into the same car as Chen Fan.
"Do you think Second Brother Wang will participate in this matter?"
Zheng Xiaopang asked suddenly, it was already the beginning of the day, and the bright street lights on the side of the road came in through the car window, and the expression on Chen Fan's face was still very clear.
Chen Fan shook his head, "I don't know."
After speaking, Chen Fan closed his eyes and leaned back on the chair to fall asleep.
"I still think this thing can be done."
Zheng Xiaopang saw that Chen Fan didn't seem to want to talk about it, but he didn't want to just let Chen Fan go, so he continued to talk.
Chen Fan opened his eyes and looked at Zheng Xiaopang, "Nonsense, if we can't do it, why should we do it?"
"Then what do they think? The investment is not big, but once it is done, it is still very profitable."
Zheng Xiaopang said puzzledly.
"That's what we think, do they think so, I think they should find someone to ask about it these days.
As long as they recognize the potential value of this thing, I don't think they will refuse.
But the trouble now is that Bitcoin is such a big market, how can it make them feel that they are doing something. "
Chen Fan said in embarrassment.
"It's simple. I'll contact you immediately to push up the value of Bitcoin. Before, we have been collecting coins around 5%. Now it has been increased to 6%. affect their judgement."
Speaking of this, Zheng Xiaopang immediately took out his mobile phone, found a phone number, and dialed it. After the call was connected, he quickly passed the new order to him, not caring about Chen Fan's reaction at all.
Chen Fan just smiled, shook his head, and said nothing.
At this time, pushing up the currency value cannot be said to have no effect, maybe there is, but it is definitely not the main thing.
Chen Fan estimates that in the next two days, Second Brother Wang or Zhang Jianjun will arrange someone to conduct a thorough investigation of the currency circle, investigate the development of this circle, and see if it is really attractive. If there is money, they will naturally intervene up.
Tonight seems to be a little rash. I should have talked to Zhang Jianjun about this matter alone before, and asked him to investigate first. With the information, maybe I can directly persuade Second Brother Wang to intervene in this matter.
He is not worried that he will be kicked away by the second brother Wang. In fact, in this project, the exchange is only a part that can generate stable income. The real money is hoarding coins and setting up computer mining units in the current environment. , as long as you have enough bitcoins in your hands, you will get the most benefits in the process of this market development.
Thinking of this, Chen Fan turned his head and said to Zheng Xiaopang who had just put down his phone: "You can contact Li Yihong by the way and ask him to send the person I want to the Imperial Capital tomorrow morning. We must hurry up and start this computer coin digging project." thing.
Also, now that the coins are collected at 6%, you should keep an eye on them later. Once all the coins on the market are collected by us, we will raise the price in time. It doesn’t matter if the price is high, after all, it is less than 1 meter cent.
In short, regardless of whether they do this thing or not, they will give me tens of thousands of dollars to do it first, and get some more bitcoins. This is the fundamental. "
"it is good."
Hearing Chen Fan's next few words, Zheng Xiaopang also reacted.
Indeed, the institution of the exchange should be able to make money, but this is something that will happen after the market develops.
To make an exchange, the most important thing is to improve and simplify the transaction and increase the price of Bitcoin.
Of course, they also want to obtain some transaction information by controlling the exchange.
It's simple to think of it this way, whoever has more bitcoins will earn the most.
(End of this chapter)
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