legendary trader
Chapter 901 902 Scams
Chapter 901 902 Scams
"Also, the next time you contact people from Ping An Insurance, you can say that our advantage mainly lies in the investment in the international financial market. We have many successful transaction cases, but it is not convenient to describe them, but we have trading accounts. Continuously becomes data for them to query."
Chen Fan felt that since he still intends to continue to contact Ping An Insurance Company and look for opportunities to invest in shares, he should take out some of his own advantages.
And what advantages do you have here?
There must be no management, that is, his investment experience in overseas markets.
But most of these transactions cannot be known to outsiders, and even Xie Kai doesn't know the specific goals of their transactions, so the only thing that can be shown to them is the changes in account funds.
After Chen Fan said this, Zheng Xiaopang unconsciously frowned slightly. In his opinion, their investment needs to be kept secret, although Chen Fan only said to provide them with the changes in account funds.
But Zheng Xiaopang didn't speak at this time, just glanced at Chen Fan.
Although Chen Fan didn't operate the company's account, he instructed the traders below to trade from time to time, just like the previous international crude oil futures trading.
Chen Fan reminded that you can go long. Most of the following traders have also participated in international crude oil futures. Although some traders did not do a good job in risk control and were wiped out in the market turmoil, most of the trading profits were still preserved.
It seems that it is not impossible to show them the trading account here.
Of course, the targets of these traders are not limited to crude oil. Other transactions include stocks, gold, foreign exchange and other bulk futures, etc. They are involved in almost all varieties that can be freely traded in the market, which can be described as diverse.
But generally speaking, the results of these transactions are not bad. When Chen Fan occasionally looks through their transaction information, he still takes a look at them from time to time, especially those varieties that he has never done.
Occasionally, some risks will be discovered, and he will send a message in time to remind him to avoid them.
At this time, Xie Kai was overjoyed by Chen Fan's words. He knew that Chaofan Investment had a brilliant record in the financial market. He has also heard about some past achievements more or less, and he has no doubts about the company's investment capabilities.
"Okay, I see, Mr. Chen."
Xie Kai hurriedly said with a smile.
In the next two days, on the relatively closed currency circle forum, posts called **Bitcoin began to increase gradually.
Most of these posts are priced at 1 yuan for 70 bitcoins. With the increase in posts listing for sale on the forum, posts of 65 yuan gradually began to appear.
But when someone actually contacts the seller, the response they get is almost always someone who has already registered first, and half a day later, these posts will be posted by the poster with the text of the transaction.
It seems that the market conditions are getting better. Players who visited the forum in the past two days are delighted to find that although the price of Bitcoin has not risen continuously in the short term as in the past few days, the market volume seems to be increasing, becoming more and more Many people began to enter this market.
The expansion of the player team naturally makes these old players happy, because their seniority is older and they hold more bitcoins than them.
Most of those who come to play Bitcoin have already used their home computers to mine coins, so these people are very clear that it is becoming more and more difficult to mine Bitcoin now.
Although the current mainstream transaction price in the bitcoin market has been fluctuating between 6.5% and 7%, they also vaguely feel that as the difficulty of mining coins increases and more and more people enter this circle, it seems that The bitcoin price should still have a chance to rise.
Of course, there are players who are bullish on Bitcoin, and they are more enthusiastic about mining coins at this time. Although Bitcoin is difficult to mine now, it is not impossible to mine it. , everyone can dig more or less every day.
Bitcoin is becoming more and more difficult to mine, and there are some players who are gradually losing interest in Bitcoin. In their view, the Bitcoin that is just randomly generated should not be worth the price, and now everyone is reluctant to sell it. That's why the price is so high.
For these people, interest is the most important thing.
Now that their interest is gradually fading, they naturally choose to find a suitable price and dispose of the bitcoins they dug before. If they can be sold, they will fade out of this market. After all, they came here because of interest, and now there is no If you are interested, you should leave naturally.
But these people will feel very lucky, because no matter whether they hang 6.5% or 7%, the bitcoins in their hands can still be easily traded.
If there is any difference between these two prices, it is that if the price is listed at 6.5%, the transaction will be completed very quickly, but when the price is listed at 7%, the waiting time will be much longer.
Of course, only a very small number of players realize that there may be more and more players attracted by Bitcoin’s unique distribution mechanism in the future. to a very small fraction, almost negligible.
Time soon came to the weekend, and at the hotel that they had agreed upon, Chen Fan met with Second Brother Wang and others, and of course Zhang Jianjun was also there.
This time the discussion is relatively confidential, so not many people were called.
"I heard that you have recently started mining that bitcoin online. It seems that you really plan to do a big job."
After a few people chatted about the recent news, the topic inevitably returned to the topic to be talked about tonight.
"Hehe, yes, more and more people are playing bitcoin now, and it is already difficult to grab coins online in the previous way, so I want to use some method to increase the efficiency of grabbing coins."
Chen Fan smiled and said, in fact, he also guessed it before. It is impossible for Second Brother Wang not to know about their actions in this week, but for those who have been making troubles in the currency market recently, it is estimated that they still can’t guess. they are doing.
"I have asked people about the bitcoin you mentioned, and almost all of them think that bitcoin is a scam, similar to a Ponzi scheme, where people are recruited to drive up the price.
However, after studying the Bitcoin issuance mechanism, they felt that the cleverness of this scam is that it seems that this scam can last for a long time, because it will take a long time for the so-called 2100 million Bitcoins to be released.”
Second brother Wang started to talk eloquently, and began to instill in Chen Fan and Zheng Xiaopang what he had asked someone before, for fear that the two boys would go astray.
When Second Brother Wang said that Bitcoin was a Ponzi scheme, both Chen Fan and Zheng Xiaopang frowned slightly, but Zheng Xiaopang's reaction was a little more aggressive, and his inner displeasure was fully revealed on his face at this time. Come.
After talking a few words, Second Brother Wang noticed Zheng Xiaopang's strangeness. He stopped talking and looked at Zheng Xiaopang with a smile and said, "I said this thing is a Ponzi scheme. Can you explain in detail?"
“How can Bitcoin be called a scam?”
Zheng Xiaopang opened his mouth and said.
"What is the value of Bitcoin? We know that currency must be given a certain value, but what is the value of this thing that appears out of nothing on the network? What can it bring?
Don't look at the seemingly hot sales in the current currency circle, but they are actually spreading flowers by beating drums.
I have learned that the first person exchanged 1 bitcoins for 1 pizza, but this does not mean anything, and it does not mean that 1 bitcoins are equal to 1 pizza.
Don't look at the current price of the currency that seems to have risen sharply. It is said that the price of the currency has increased by almost three times in the past two months. It is already 7% or something. What is the use of this?
Do you know if the so-called 2100 million bitcoins are real, and how many bitcoins are in the hands of the person who started this scam now? "
Second Brother Wang said immediately.
Hearing this, Zheng Xiaopang immediately didn't dare to speak.
In fact, he and Chen Fan had discussed this matter before. After all, it was a completely unfamiliar thing, and Chen Fan's thirst for knowledge was still very strong.
Of course, the key point is actually the claim that there will be no additional issuance, only 2100 million bitcoins will be issued, and then the production of bitcoins can only be obtained in a special way, well, it is actually produced through coin mining.
But this is what Chen Fan is most worried about. Who knows how many bitcoins there are already. If the person who developed this thing already has 1 million bitcoins in his hand, how can he play?
According to the current production speed of bitcoins, the total number of bitcoins on the market will not exceed 5 million, because they are produced every day, and calculated according to time, it should be around 4 million.
But if the developer has already got 1 million bitcoins, he tells you that these bitcoins will not be produced until more than ten or twenty years later.
Well, now because the market currency price is not high, these things have not appeared, but when it comes time for them to inflate the currency price, those 1 million bitcoins will fall from the sky, and the funds invested will die very badly.
But for this problem, that is, Chen Fan has this worry, but in Zheng Xiaopang's view, it is completely unnecessary.
Because in the eyes of those who are really interested in Bitcoin, such a thing will never happen. If the output of Bitcoin can be controlled, then this thing will not be attractive.
Who would come up with such a big battle to cheat money, and they are really very concerned about the block technology in the Bitcoin production process, thinking that this is a very important technological breakthrough.
Seeing that Zheng Xiaopang had nothing to say, Second Brother Wang continued: "Of course, this Bitcoin is also somewhat different from the general Ponzi scheme. He didn't give a high rate of return. The high rate of return you thought In fact, it is all based on your own imagination, thinking that there will be a fool who will buy this thing from you at a higher price.
So a professor told me that this thing is a bit similar to fried orchids in China a few years ago and tulips fried in Europe more than 300 years ago.
You should still have an impression of the domestic hype of Clivia. I won’t go into details. In fact, it is caused by the soaring demand and supply in the short term.
The soaring price of orchids in the process of imbalance between supply and demand has further boosted people's confidence in bullish prices of orchids.
Can you believe it, a pot of slightly better-looking orchids requires you to spend a few months without eating or drinking to buy them. It is okay to sell some rare and rare varieties at a high price. Generally, they can be sold even if they are in good condition. out such a price.
We have never experienced tulips hundreds of years ago, but judging from historical documents, it is actually the same thing as the orchid incident.
The tulips produced in Asia Minor were brought to the European continent. Those bumpkins had never seen them before. They only knew that the flowers were really beautiful, so they hyped them wildly.
At that time, under the premise of inconvenient transportation, such crazy speculation was actually understandable, but the price was too bragging. It was said that a better tulip could be exchanged for a luxury house or a few horses. , horses are not cheap. "
"Even now, horses are not cheap."
Zhang Jianjun, who hadn't spoken yet, also took advantage of the situation to make up for it.
Zheng Xiaopang looked at Second Brother Wang and then at his cousin Zhang Jianjun, he was really a bit stupid.
Obviously, after Second Brother Wang said so much, Zhang Jianjun just sat there looking like he was enjoying the show, and didn't say anything. Naturally, they had exchanged information in this regard before.
Chen Fan also felt it at the moment. It seems that Wang Erge and Zhang Jianjun did not support this bitcoin, and they have already been beaten to death with a single stick. It is a scam, a very clever scam.
In fact, Chen Fan was also aware of this before, but he had a little luck in his heart, because for this kind of scam, as long as he enters the scene at the earliest and gets off halfway, he will generally not be hurt.
And how to judge the time to get off the bus, of course, is to use the exchange, which can be roughly judged based on the number of customers and transaction volume.
Because as long as there are new account-opening customer resources, they will enter the market with their own funds to participate in transactions, and based on the market trading volume, they can roughly judge what the market popularity is like.
Like all markets, after a large amount of funds are gathered in the Bitcoin market, the transaction volume will naturally increase.
But if Bitcoin is still traded according to the current model, that is, if players trade privately in the currency circle forum, he will not be able to grasp these important information.
This is also the reason why Chen Fan wants to do this project. If there is no information channel such as an exchange, Chen Fan can't guarantee to participate in this Bitcoin, and he can leave the market smoothly with a profit.
Chen Fan couldn't imagine that in the 21st century, he would arrange for his subordinates to list and sell hundreds of millions of bitcoins in the currency circle forum.
"Second brother, do you mean that this bitcoin exchange will not be established?"
Chen Fan didn't want to continue to listen to their long speeches at the moment, he just wanted to know the result.
(End of this chapter)
"Also, the next time you contact people from Ping An Insurance, you can say that our advantage mainly lies in the investment in the international financial market. We have many successful transaction cases, but it is not convenient to describe them, but we have trading accounts. Continuously becomes data for them to query."
Chen Fan felt that since he still intends to continue to contact Ping An Insurance Company and look for opportunities to invest in shares, he should take out some of his own advantages.
And what advantages do you have here?
There must be no management, that is, his investment experience in overseas markets.
But most of these transactions cannot be known to outsiders, and even Xie Kai doesn't know the specific goals of their transactions, so the only thing that can be shown to them is the changes in account funds.
After Chen Fan said this, Zheng Xiaopang unconsciously frowned slightly. In his opinion, their investment needs to be kept secret, although Chen Fan only said to provide them with the changes in account funds.
But Zheng Xiaopang didn't speak at this time, just glanced at Chen Fan.
Although Chen Fan didn't operate the company's account, he instructed the traders below to trade from time to time, just like the previous international crude oil futures trading.
Chen Fan reminded that you can go long. Most of the following traders have also participated in international crude oil futures. Although some traders did not do a good job in risk control and were wiped out in the market turmoil, most of the trading profits were still preserved.
It seems that it is not impossible to show them the trading account here.
Of course, the targets of these traders are not limited to crude oil. Other transactions include stocks, gold, foreign exchange and other bulk futures, etc. They are involved in almost all varieties that can be freely traded in the market, which can be described as diverse.
But generally speaking, the results of these transactions are not bad. When Chen Fan occasionally looks through their transaction information, he still takes a look at them from time to time, especially those varieties that he has never done.
Occasionally, some risks will be discovered, and he will send a message in time to remind him to avoid them.
At this time, Xie Kai was overjoyed by Chen Fan's words. He knew that Chaofan Investment had a brilliant record in the financial market. He has also heard about some past achievements more or less, and he has no doubts about the company's investment capabilities.
"Okay, I see, Mr. Chen."
Xie Kai hurriedly said with a smile.
In the next two days, on the relatively closed currency circle forum, posts called **Bitcoin began to increase gradually.
Most of these posts are priced at 1 yuan for 70 bitcoins. With the increase in posts listing for sale on the forum, posts of 65 yuan gradually began to appear.
But when someone actually contacts the seller, the response they get is almost always someone who has already registered first, and half a day later, these posts will be posted by the poster with the text of the transaction.
It seems that the market conditions are getting better. Players who visited the forum in the past two days are delighted to find that although the price of Bitcoin has not risen continuously in the short term as in the past few days, the market volume seems to be increasing, becoming more and more Many people began to enter this market.
The expansion of the player team naturally makes these old players happy, because their seniority is older and they hold more bitcoins than them.
Most of those who come to play Bitcoin have already used their home computers to mine coins, so these people are very clear that it is becoming more and more difficult to mine Bitcoin now.
Although the current mainstream transaction price in the bitcoin market has been fluctuating between 6.5% and 7%, they also vaguely feel that as the difficulty of mining coins increases and more and more people enter this circle, it seems that The bitcoin price should still have a chance to rise.
Of course, there are players who are bullish on Bitcoin, and they are more enthusiastic about mining coins at this time. Although Bitcoin is difficult to mine now, it is not impossible to mine it. , everyone can dig more or less every day.
Bitcoin is becoming more and more difficult to mine, and there are some players who are gradually losing interest in Bitcoin. In their view, the Bitcoin that is just randomly generated should not be worth the price, and now everyone is reluctant to sell it. That's why the price is so high.
For these people, interest is the most important thing.
Now that their interest is gradually fading, they naturally choose to find a suitable price and dispose of the bitcoins they dug before. If they can be sold, they will fade out of this market. After all, they came here because of interest, and now there is no If you are interested, you should leave naturally.
But these people will feel very lucky, because no matter whether they hang 6.5% or 7%, the bitcoins in their hands can still be easily traded.
If there is any difference between these two prices, it is that if the price is listed at 6.5%, the transaction will be completed very quickly, but when the price is listed at 7%, the waiting time will be much longer.
Of course, only a very small number of players realize that there may be more and more players attracted by Bitcoin’s unique distribution mechanism in the future. to a very small fraction, almost negligible.
Time soon came to the weekend, and at the hotel that they had agreed upon, Chen Fan met with Second Brother Wang and others, and of course Zhang Jianjun was also there.
This time the discussion is relatively confidential, so not many people were called.
"I heard that you have recently started mining that bitcoin online. It seems that you really plan to do a big job."
After a few people chatted about the recent news, the topic inevitably returned to the topic to be talked about tonight.
"Hehe, yes, more and more people are playing bitcoin now, and it is already difficult to grab coins online in the previous way, so I want to use some method to increase the efficiency of grabbing coins."
Chen Fan smiled and said, in fact, he also guessed it before. It is impossible for Second Brother Wang not to know about their actions in this week, but for those who have been making troubles in the currency market recently, it is estimated that they still can’t guess. they are doing.
"I have asked people about the bitcoin you mentioned, and almost all of them think that bitcoin is a scam, similar to a Ponzi scheme, where people are recruited to drive up the price.
However, after studying the Bitcoin issuance mechanism, they felt that the cleverness of this scam is that it seems that this scam can last for a long time, because it will take a long time for the so-called 2100 million Bitcoins to be released.”
Second brother Wang started to talk eloquently, and began to instill in Chen Fan and Zheng Xiaopang what he had asked someone before, for fear that the two boys would go astray.
When Second Brother Wang said that Bitcoin was a Ponzi scheme, both Chen Fan and Zheng Xiaopang frowned slightly, but Zheng Xiaopang's reaction was a little more aggressive, and his inner displeasure was fully revealed on his face at this time. Come.
After talking a few words, Second Brother Wang noticed Zheng Xiaopang's strangeness. He stopped talking and looked at Zheng Xiaopang with a smile and said, "I said this thing is a Ponzi scheme. Can you explain in detail?"
“How can Bitcoin be called a scam?”
Zheng Xiaopang opened his mouth and said.
"What is the value of Bitcoin? We know that currency must be given a certain value, but what is the value of this thing that appears out of nothing on the network? What can it bring?
Don't look at the seemingly hot sales in the current currency circle, but they are actually spreading flowers by beating drums.
I have learned that the first person exchanged 1 bitcoins for 1 pizza, but this does not mean anything, and it does not mean that 1 bitcoins are equal to 1 pizza.
Don't look at the current price of the currency that seems to have risen sharply. It is said that the price of the currency has increased by almost three times in the past two months. It is already 7% or something. What is the use of this?
Do you know if the so-called 2100 million bitcoins are real, and how many bitcoins are in the hands of the person who started this scam now? "
Second Brother Wang said immediately.
Hearing this, Zheng Xiaopang immediately didn't dare to speak.
In fact, he and Chen Fan had discussed this matter before. After all, it was a completely unfamiliar thing, and Chen Fan's thirst for knowledge was still very strong.
Of course, the key point is actually the claim that there will be no additional issuance, only 2100 million bitcoins will be issued, and then the production of bitcoins can only be obtained in a special way, well, it is actually produced through coin mining.
But this is what Chen Fan is most worried about. Who knows how many bitcoins there are already. If the person who developed this thing already has 1 million bitcoins in his hand, how can he play?
According to the current production speed of bitcoins, the total number of bitcoins on the market will not exceed 5 million, because they are produced every day, and calculated according to time, it should be around 4 million.
But if the developer has already got 1 million bitcoins, he tells you that these bitcoins will not be produced until more than ten or twenty years later.
Well, now because the market currency price is not high, these things have not appeared, but when it comes time for them to inflate the currency price, those 1 million bitcoins will fall from the sky, and the funds invested will die very badly.
But for this problem, that is, Chen Fan has this worry, but in Zheng Xiaopang's view, it is completely unnecessary.
Because in the eyes of those who are really interested in Bitcoin, such a thing will never happen. If the output of Bitcoin can be controlled, then this thing will not be attractive.
Who would come up with such a big battle to cheat money, and they are really very concerned about the block technology in the Bitcoin production process, thinking that this is a very important technological breakthrough.
Seeing that Zheng Xiaopang had nothing to say, Second Brother Wang continued: "Of course, this Bitcoin is also somewhat different from the general Ponzi scheme. He didn't give a high rate of return. The high rate of return you thought In fact, it is all based on your own imagination, thinking that there will be a fool who will buy this thing from you at a higher price.
So a professor told me that this thing is a bit similar to fried orchids in China a few years ago and tulips fried in Europe more than 300 years ago.
You should still have an impression of the domestic hype of Clivia. I won’t go into details. In fact, it is caused by the soaring demand and supply in the short term.
The soaring price of orchids in the process of imbalance between supply and demand has further boosted people's confidence in bullish prices of orchids.
Can you believe it, a pot of slightly better-looking orchids requires you to spend a few months without eating or drinking to buy them. It is okay to sell some rare and rare varieties at a high price. Generally, they can be sold even if they are in good condition. out such a price.
We have never experienced tulips hundreds of years ago, but judging from historical documents, it is actually the same thing as the orchid incident.
The tulips produced in Asia Minor were brought to the European continent. Those bumpkins had never seen them before. They only knew that the flowers were really beautiful, so they hyped them wildly.
At that time, under the premise of inconvenient transportation, such crazy speculation was actually understandable, but the price was too bragging. It was said that a better tulip could be exchanged for a luxury house or a few horses. , horses are not cheap. "
"Even now, horses are not cheap."
Zhang Jianjun, who hadn't spoken yet, also took advantage of the situation to make up for it.
Zheng Xiaopang looked at Second Brother Wang and then at his cousin Zhang Jianjun, he was really a bit stupid.
Obviously, after Second Brother Wang said so much, Zhang Jianjun just sat there looking like he was enjoying the show, and didn't say anything. Naturally, they had exchanged information in this regard before.
Chen Fan also felt it at the moment. It seems that Wang Erge and Zhang Jianjun did not support this bitcoin, and they have already been beaten to death with a single stick. It is a scam, a very clever scam.
In fact, Chen Fan was also aware of this before, but he had a little luck in his heart, because for this kind of scam, as long as he enters the scene at the earliest and gets off halfway, he will generally not be hurt.
And how to judge the time to get off the bus, of course, is to use the exchange, which can be roughly judged based on the number of customers and transaction volume.
Because as long as there are new account-opening customer resources, they will enter the market with their own funds to participate in transactions, and based on the market trading volume, they can roughly judge what the market popularity is like.
Like all markets, after a large amount of funds are gathered in the Bitcoin market, the transaction volume will naturally increase.
But if Bitcoin is still traded according to the current model, that is, if players trade privately in the currency circle forum, he will not be able to grasp these important information.
This is also the reason why Chen Fan wants to do this project. If there is no information channel such as an exchange, Chen Fan can't guarantee to participate in this Bitcoin, and he can leave the market smoothly with a profit.
Chen Fan couldn't imagine that in the 21st century, he would arrange for his subordinates to list and sell hundreds of millions of bitcoins in the currency circle forum.
"Second brother, do you mean that this bitcoin exchange will not be established?"
Chen Fan didn't want to continue to listen to their long speeches at the moment, he just wanted to know the result.
(End of this chapter)
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