Great Song Super Scholar
Chapter 216 Interview
Chapter 216 Interview
After all, it was an interview. Of course, Zhao Zhen couldn't exchange Tian Huangshi's experience with Fan Ning. He winked at Wen Yanbo. Wen Yanbo understood, and continued to ask: "Please explain your strategy of enriching the people in concise words!"
Fan Ning pondered for a while and said: "My grandfather gave birth to four sons, but he likes my fourth uncle the most, and wants to leave all the family property to my fourth uncle. Although my father, second uncle and third uncle dare not be dissatisfied with grandfather, but I My mother was not happy, my second aunt was not happy, my third uncle even became a son-in-law, and the whole family fought around the field all day long, even my fourth uncle was dissatisfied, and my grandfather’s life was very difficult.”
Everyone has heard that Fanning is using family affairs as a metaphor for state affairs. Although it is very interesting, isn't it a bit absurd?
Everyone secretly glanced at the emperor Zhao Zhen, seeing that he seemed to be listening with gusto, and fell silent. Wen Yanbo was about to speak, but Zhao Zhen waved his hand, "Let him continue!"
Fan Ning continued: "Later, I suggested that my father change his career to become a doctor. He learned a medicine to treat bruises when he was young, and it was very effective. The second uncle also changed his career to start a business of ornamental stones. The third uncle's father-in-law died of illness last year, and he became a family member. Now the life of the family has been greatly improved, and no one cares about my grandfather's meager property. My mother often visits my grandmother, and the family has become harmonious.
The policy of enriching the people is actually two words, create, everyone works together to create wealth, all kinds of contradictions in the Song Dynasty will naturally disappear, the country will become stronger, the people will become richer, and the reformers can use their hands and feet in the new world. interests will not be harmed. "
Pang Ji was a little worried. If ordinary boys and scholars expounded on the reformers and conservatives here, it could be said that they were young and ignorant, but Fan Ning is Fan Zhongyan’s grandson. Would it be too sensitive for him to expound political ideas here? up?
However, Pang Ji also found that what Fan Ning was talking about was not Fan Zhongyan's political ideas, and he did not emphasize innovation, but innovation.
Fan Ning didn't continue talking, and Wen Yanbo couldn't stop. He felt that the emperor seemed to have something to say.
Sure enough, Zhao Zhen pondered for a while and said: "It is said that governing a big country is like cooking small fish, but the 8000 million people in the Song Dynasty are not your family, and you can't expand your wealth if you want to expand your wealth. First of all, where is the wealth? How do you solve this problem? explain?"
Fanning continued: "If Your Majesty allows, I can give two examples."
"Tell me, I agree!"
Fan Ning continued: "Everyone knows that the yield of rice is large, and one mu of land can harvest a thousand catties, while the yield of wheat and corn is very low, and if there is enough light and heat, you can harvest three seasons a year, like Lingnan and Jiaozhi. Rice can be harvested for three seasons. If you go further south, there will be endless land and forests there, no less than the territory of our Song Dynasty, and no one lives there, only some natives.
If Song Dynasty opened up millions of hectares of land overseas and distributed it to landless farmers without compensation, would this be a kind of wealth?Not to mention, Penghu, hundreds of miles away from Fuzhou, has already been settled by Han Chinese, and Liuqiu Dadao is a land of great treasures. It is entirely possible to move some of the landless refugees there, so that they have land to plant and their own land. Does property reduce the burden on the court?Once the food and materials in the Song Dynasty are abundant, the court can print more Jiaozi, will the pressure on the court be greatly reduced? "
Zhao Zhen smiled slightly, "You mean to stop planting wheat and corn in the north, and focus on planting rice. Then what should be planted in such a vast land in the north? Could it be turned into a horse farm?"
Fan Ning shook his head, "This is actually the second example the students want to give. The students heard that the King of Kucha came to see the Celestial Dynasty last year. Does Your Majesty know that there is a crop in Kucha that can do a lot."
Wen Yanbo interjected: "King Qiuci visited the Celestial Dynasty last year and paid tribute to hundreds of altars of wine made from grapes. Grapes are abundant there. You mean grapes?"
Fanning shook his head, "The student said cotton!"
"cotton?"
Wen Yanbo was taken aback, "You mean kapok?"
"The cotton that the students are talking about actually refers to the white silk cloth of the Tang Dynasty. The white silk cloth is made of cotton. It is produced in the Western Regions and is very expensive. A piece of cotton is worth thousands of dollars. But in fact, the cotton is produced in Tianzhu. Very commonly, cotton can be spun into cloth, which is far more comfortable than linen.
In winter, cotton can be used as bedding and padded clothes. It is very warm and can completely replace sheepskin. Cotton production is very large. If cotton is planted in large quantities in the north, it will completely solve the problem of clothing for the common people, and will promote the emergence of many large textile workshops. Women Also work, earn money to support the family, isn't this the way to enrich the people? "
Fan Ning's words silenced the hall. If Fan Ning was just explaining the theory, everyone might be able to refute a few words, but he took out a cotton that no one had seen before, which is really hard to refute.
Wen Yanbo glanced at the emperor, can we end the interview?
However, Zhao Zhen was in deep thought, and didn't see Wen Yanbo's gaze asking. He asked the crowd again: "I've heard about the appearance of white silk cloth in the Tang Dynasty. Can there be such a thing in the Song Dynasty?"
Song Xiang bowed slightly and said, "Your Majesty, the silk production in the Song Dynasty is very large, which can fully meet the clothing needs of the middle and upper classes. As for the lower class people, there is fine linen, so there is no such expensive and impractical white silk cloth." People need it."
"You have seen cotton?" Zhao Zhen asked again with a smile.
Everyone shook their heads. At this time, Fan Ning bowed and said, "Your Majesty, the student collected some cotton from a barbarian's store in the capital at the end of last year. In order to keep warm, the student sewed it into a bikini and put it on now." on the students."
Zhao Zhen laughed, "It seems that you came prepared!"
Fan Ning also said with a smile: "Instead of talking a thousand words, it is better to do something. The students are willing to let His Majesty watch!"
Zhao Zhen nodded, and said to the waiter next to him: "Reward Fan Ning with a fur and let him replace Bi Jia!"
The servant led Fan Ning outside to change clothes. Zhao Zhen said earnestly to Pang Jiyu: "Fan Ning gives me a sense of freshness every time he comes out. In fact, his words are also reasonable. He won the battle for some interests with the reformers and conservatives." To break the blood, it is better for everyone to unite and create greater wealth. At that time, the country will be strong and the people rich, and the interests of the existing people will not be harmed. I appreciate this kind of thinking, and his words have opened a new window for me."
Everyone was secretly surprised. They didn't expect the emperor to attach so much importance to Fan Ning's words, but everyone also admitted that Fan Ning's words really gave people a refreshing feeling.
Pang Ji leaned forward and said with a smile: "Actually, Fan Ning has heard about Liuqiu Dadao, and I have heard of it. Using this big island to house landless refugees, as long as you can overcome the influence of miasma, you can give it a try."
Wen Yanbo also smiled and said, "Miasma is not a problem. Lingnan has rich experience, and Wei Chen also considered this matter a few years ago. Since there are many Han people on the Penghu Islands, Wei Chen suggested that they should be on Penghu Island first." Set up a government office, and then gradually move the Han people to Liuqiu Dadao, and after five or six years, I believe there will be big changes there."
"Yes, consider setting up Penghu County. The Zhizheng Hall will come up with a plan as soon as possible!" Zhao Zhen made a final decision, taking the opportunity of today's interview to confirm a major event.
At this time, the waiter led Fanning back, holding a plate in his hand, and inside it was a sleeveless bijar, made of black satin, which looked fluffy and fluffy, which was a bit different.
Most of the jackets and quilts worn by ordinary people in winter are filled with kapok fibers. Cotton was not popularized until the Song and Yuan dynasties. As for the large-scale promotion of planting nationwide, it was the result of Zhu Yuanzhang's compulsory order.
Zhao Zhen looked at the bijia on the wooden tray, and said with a smile: "If I want to see the cotton, I have to cut it open!"
"Please, Your Majesty!"
Zhao Zhen picked up a pair of scissors, cut the bijia directly, shook it lightly, and clusters of pure white cotton rolled out of the bijia, Zhao Zhen picked up a ball and looked at it, his eyes were full of wonder, and then Order the servant to show the cotton in the wooden tray to all the ministers.
Pang Ji obviously had some knowledge. He rubbed the cotton lightly and said with a smile, "It's thicker and denser than kapok. I don't know how to grow it. How many catties per mu?"
Fan Ning bowed and said: "Reporting to Pang Xiangguo, it is a low shrub that can produce about five to six hundred catties of cotton per mu. It likes sufficient sunlight and is relatively drought-tolerant. It is very suitable for planting in Hebei and the Central Plains."
"How much cotton do I need for a winter coat?" Wen Yanbo asked again.
"A winter coat is about one catty, and a bedding is enough for two catties. It can also be spun and weaved, which is much more comfortable than linen clothes. It will greatly promote the improvement of the lives of the people at the bottom."
Fan Ning said to Zhao Zhen again: "Your Majesty, the strategy for enriching the people is nothing more than clothing, food, housing and transportation. Cotton is only one of them. As long as we do a good job in this aspect, let cotton appear more and more. The students believe that after more than ten years, the Great Song Dynasty will inevitably appear. A great situation where the country is strong and the people are rich!"
(End of this chapter)
After all, it was an interview. Of course, Zhao Zhen couldn't exchange Tian Huangshi's experience with Fan Ning. He winked at Wen Yanbo. Wen Yanbo understood, and continued to ask: "Please explain your strategy of enriching the people in concise words!"
Fan Ning pondered for a while and said: "My grandfather gave birth to four sons, but he likes my fourth uncle the most, and wants to leave all the family property to my fourth uncle. Although my father, second uncle and third uncle dare not be dissatisfied with grandfather, but I My mother was not happy, my second aunt was not happy, my third uncle even became a son-in-law, and the whole family fought around the field all day long, even my fourth uncle was dissatisfied, and my grandfather’s life was very difficult.”
Everyone has heard that Fanning is using family affairs as a metaphor for state affairs. Although it is very interesting, isn't it a bit absurd?
Everyone secretly glanced at the emperor Zhao Zhen, seeing that he seemed to be listening with gusto, and fell silent. Wen Yanbo was about to speak, but Zhao Zhen waved his hand, "Let him continue!"
Fan Ning continued: "Later, I suggested that my father change his career to become a doctor. He learned a medicine to treat bruises when he was young, and it was very effective. The second uncle also changed his career to start a business of ornamental stones. The third uncle's father-in-law died of illness last year, and he became a family member. Now the life of the family has been greatly improved, and no one cares about my grandfather's meager property. My mother often visits my grandmother, and the family has become harmonious.
The policy of enriching the people is actually two words, create, everyone works together to create wealth, all kinds of contradictions in the Song Dynasty will naturally disappear, the country will become stronger, the people will become richer, and the reformers can use their hands and feet in the new world. interests will not be harmed. "
Pang Ji was a little worried. If ordinary boys and scholars expounded on the reformers and conservatives here, it could be said that they were young and ignorant, but Fan Ning is Fan Zhongyan’s grandson. Would it be too sensitive for him to expound political ideas here? up?
However, Pang Ji also found that what Fan Ning was talking about was not Fan Zhongyan's political ideas, and he did not emphasize innovation, but innovation.
Fan Ning didn't continue talking, and Wen Yanbo couldn't stop. He felt that the emperor seemed to have something to say.
Sure enough, Zhao Zhen pondered for a while and said: "It is said that governing a big country is like cooking small fish, but the 8000 million people in the Song Dynasty are not your family, and you can't expand your wealth if you want to expand your wealth. First of all, where is the wealth? How do you solve this problem? explain?"
Fanning continued: "If Your Majesty allows, I can give two examples."
"Tell me, I agree!"
Fan Ning continued: "Everyone knows that the yield of rice is large, and one mu of land can harvest a thousand catties, while the yield of wheat and corn is very low, and if there is enough light and heat, you can harvest three seasons a year, like Lingnan and Jiaozhi. Rice can be harvested for three seasons. If you go further south, there will be endless land and forests there, no less than the territory of our Song Dynasty, and no one lives there, only some natives.
If Song Dynasty opened up millions of hectares of land overseas and distributed it to landless farmers without compensation, would this be a kind of wealth?Not to mention, Penghu, hundreds of miles away from Fuzhou, has already been settled by Han Chinese, and Liuqiu Dadao is a land of great treasures. It is entirely possible to move some of the landless refugees there, so that they have land to plant and their own land. Does property reduce the burden on the court?Once the food and materials in the Song Dynasty are abundant, the court can print more Jiaozi, will the pressure on the court be greatly reduced? "
Zhao Zhen smiled slightly, "You mean to stop planting wheat and corn in the north, and focus on planting rice. Then what should be planted in such a vast land in the north? Could it be turned into a horse farm?"
Fan Ning shook his head, "This is actually the second example the students want to give. The students heard that the King of Kucha came to see the Celestial Dynasty last year. Does Your Majesty know that there is a crop in Kucha that can do a lot."
Wen Yanbo interjected: "King Qiuci visited the Celestial Dynasty last year and paid tribute to hundreds of altars of wine made from grapes. Grapes are abundant there. You mean grapes?"
Fanning shook his head, "The student said cotton!"
"cotton?"
Wen Yanbo was taken aback, "You mean kapok?"
"The cotton that the students are talking about actually refers to the white silk cloth of the Tang Dynasty. The white silk cloth is made of cotton. It is produced in the Western Regions and is very expensive. A piece of cotton is worth thousands of dollars. But in fact, the cotton is produced in Tianzhu. Very commonly, cotton can be spun into cloth, which is far more comfortable than linen.
In winter, cotton can be used as bedding and padded clothes. It is very warm and can completely replace sheepskin. Cotton production is very large. If cotton is planted in large quantities in the north, it will completely solve the problem of clothing for the common people, and will promote the emergence of many large textile workshops. Women Also work, earn money to support the family, isn't this the way to enrich the people? "
Fan Ning's words silenced the hall. If Fan Ning was just explaining the theory, everyone might be able to refute a few words, but he took out a cotton that no one had seen before, which is really hard to refute.
Wen Yanbo glanced at the emperor, can we end the interview?
However, Zhao Zhen was in deep thought, and didn't see Wen Yanbo's gaze asking. He asked the crowd again: "I've heard about the appearance of white silk cloth in the Tang Dynasty. Can there be such a thing in the Song Dynasty?"
Song Xiang bowed slightly and said, "Your Majesty, the silk production in the Song Dynasty is very large, which can fully meet the clothing needs of the middle and upper classes. As for the lower class people, there is fine linen, so there is no such expensive and impractical white silk cloth." People need it."
"You have seen cotton?" Zhao Zhen asked again with a smile.
Everyone shook their heads. At this time, Fan Ning bowed and said, "Your Majesty, the student collected some cotton from a barbarian's store in the capital at the end of last year. In order to keep warm, the student sewed it into a bikini and put it on now." on the students."
Zhao Zhen laughed, "It seems that you came prepared!"
Fan Ning also said with a smile: "Instead of talking a thousand words, it is better to do something. The students are willing to let His Majesty watch!"
Zhao Zhen nodded, and said to the waiter next to him: "Reward Fan Ning with a fur and let him replace Bi Jia!"
The servant led Fan Ning outside to change clothes. Zhao Zhen said earnestly to Pang Jiyu: "Fan Ning gives me a sense of freshness every time he comes out. In fact, his words are also reasonable. He won the battle for some interests with the reformers and conservatives." To break the blood, it is better for everyone to unite and create greater wealth. At that time, the country will be strong and the people rich, and the interests of the existing people will not be harmed. I appreciate this kind of thinking, and his words have opened a new window for me."
Everyone was secretly surprised. They didn't expect the emperor to attach so much importance to Fan Ning's words, but everyone also admitted that Fan Ning's words really gave people a refreshing feeling.
Pang Ji leaned forward and said with a smile: "Actually, Fan Ning has heard about Liuqiu Dadao, and I have heard of it. Using this big island to house landless refugees, as long as you can overcome the influence of miasma, you can give it a try."
Wen Yanbo also smiled and said, "Miasma is not a problem. Lingnan has rich experience, and Wei Chen also considered this matter a few years ago. Since there are many Han people on the Penghu Islands, Wei Chen suggested that they should be on Penghu Island first." Set up a government office, and then gradually move the Han people to Liuqiu Dadao, and after five or six years, I believe there will be big changes there."
"Yes, consider setting up Penghu County. The Zhizheng Hall will come up with a plan as soon as possible!" Zhao Zhen made a final decision, taking the opportunity of today's interview to confirm a major event.
At this time, the waiter led Fanning back, holding a plate in his hand, and inside it was a sleeveless bijar, made of black satin, which looked fluffy and fluffy, which was a bit different.
Most of the jackets and quilts worn by ordinary people in winter are filled with kapok fibers. Cotton was not popularized until the Song and Yuan dynasties. As for the large-scale promotion of planting nationwide, it was the result of Zhu Yuanzhang's compulsory order.
Zhao Zhen looked at the bijia on the wooden tray, and said with a smile: "If I want to see the cotton, I have to cut it open!"
"Please, Your Majesty!"
Zhao Zhen picked up a pair of scissors, cut the bijia directly, shook it lightly, and clusters of pure white cotton rolled out of the bijia, Zhao Zhen picked up a ball and looked at it, his eyes were full of wonder, and then Order the servant to show the cotton in the wooden tray to all the ministers.
Pang Ji obviously had some knowledge. He rubbed the cotton lightly and said with a smile, "It's thicker and denser than kapok. I don't know how to grow it. How many catties per mu?"
Fan Ning bowed and said: "Reporting to Pang Xiangguo, it is a low shrub that can produce about five to six hundred catties of cotton per mu. It likes sufficient sunlight and is relatively drought-tolerant. It is very suitable for planting in Hebei and the Central Plains."
"How much cotton do I need for a winter coat?" Wen Yanbo asked again.
"A winter coat is about one catty, and a bedding is enough for two catties. It can also be spun and weaved, which is much more comfortable than linen clothes. It will greatly promote the improvement of the lives of the people at the bottom."
Fan Ning said to Zhao Zhen again: "Your Majesty, the strategy for enriching the people is nothing more than clothing, food, housing and transportation. Cotton is only one of them. As long as we do a good job in this aspect, let cotton appear more and more. The students believe that after more than ten years, the Great Song Dynasty will inevitably appear. A great situation where the country is strong and the people are rich!"
(End of this chapter)
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