I am Da Song
Chapter 292 The Prosperous Age Begins From the Reverse Land Lease
Chapter 292 The Prosperous Age Begins From the Reverse Land Lease
After Liu Kai's report, Zhao Huan fell into deep thought, thinking seriously about a question.
That is the land west of the West Sea, whether it is considered the territory of the Great Song Dynasty or not.
If it is not counted, then the land that Da Song can control is too little.
In the huge Longyou Duhu Mansion, Song Jun can strictly control and control only a farming area in the Huangshui River Basin.
Then is the other vast land, as long as there are Tubo people grazing, it is not the territory of the Great Song Dynasty?
After thinking about it, Zhao Huan felt that it should also be regarded as the territory of Song Dynasty.
First of all, the most important point is that Da Song strictly maintains the law and order here, and does not allow anyone to disrupt the stability of the Silk Road.
Secondly, this is just a pasture divided by the Song Dynasty for the operation of nomadic tribes.
Although various ministries of Tubo were nomadic and producing on it, the ownership of the land undoubtedly belonged to the Song Dynasty.The Longyou Protectorate can directly decide which tribes can live on which land.Any tribe that commits a crime will be directly expelled.
If land is the means of production, then Da Song is undoubtedly the owner of the means of production.It's just that this big chaebol doesn't have the energy to develop the grasslands west of the West Sea, so he leased them to the Tubo people for production and development.
Just like the scholar-bureaucrats in the Central Plains did not cultivate the land, they rented the cultivated land to the common people for farming.But the ownership of the land undoubtedly belonged to the big landowners.
The Central Plains has undoubtedly faced this problem since ancient times.
But if it is said that the land west of the West Sea belongs to the Song Dynasty, then where are the benefits they provide?
The dynasties of all dynasties have a wealth of land and resources, but when the economy is in trouble, they desperately squeeze the bottom people.Without considering how much resources and benefits the vast land can bring.
The vast land and abundant resources have not actually been transformed into the unparalleled strategic advantages of the Central Plains.On the contrary, the Central Plains dynasty was always worried about considering the cost of administrative expenses in distant places.
The influence of the Central Plains' tradition of emphasizing land tax and ignoring land tax not only wasted the advantage of land area, but also greatly weakened the strength of the border.
After Liu Qi finished speaking, Zhao Huangen and several ministers discussed: "I have read history books recently, and I have gained a little. Not only the Han and Tang Dynasties, but also our dynasty, also like to move people to guard the border."
"There are not enough Han people on the border, so it is said that the frontier is empty. If it is like the Han and Tang Dynasties, the frontier was ruled for a hundred years, but the frontier was powerful, and the scholar-officials hid their households and hid their household registrations, and the country fell into the plight of an empty border again."
"Where do you think the mistakes of the previous generation's political affairs are?"
Because it was a relaxed discussion, Ji Xiang Yang Shi spoke directly and said: "The so-called reality actually refers to the amount of money and food that can be collected in the frontier."
"It's not that there are many Han people in the frontiers, so there are many troops that can be formed. If it is only the army, with the population of the Central Plains, it can easily pull tens of thousands of 10,000+ people. The army marches hundreds of miles, and there is no difficulty for the country. So in There is no difference at all between conscription on the frontier and conscription in the interior."
"The key is to maintain the supply of these tens of thousands of people. If the frontier is full, a large amount of money and food can be collected directly, and there is no need to transfer materials from the mainland, then the army can be stationed on a larger scale. But if the frontier is empty and the mainland needs to continuously transfer materials, then Garrisoning troops on the frontier becomes a heavy burden on the country's finances."
The theory of accounting from a financial point of view is refreshing for everyone.Gained a clearer and more vivid understanding of the frontier situation.
Then Yang Shi said: "The reason why the frontiers have been corrupted repeatedly is because the Central Plains pays more attention to taxation and taxes the people on a head-by-head basis. Therefore, the people are overwhelmed and hide under the names of powerful and scholar-bureaucrats. The population that can be counted in the frontiers has decreased, so naturally the frontiers also It's just empty."
"So in the last years of the dynasty, even after a hundred years of development, without losing an inch of land, the strength of the frontier has seriously degraded, and the finances that can be provided are not as good as when the country was founded, and even become a heavy burden for the court."
Zhao Huan said: "I think the vast frontier has not been brought into full play by the court. Is it because the Hulu are not my kind, so they don't have to pay taxes?"
"As for the land of Longyou, what do Qing and others think?"
Several prime ministers did not revisit policies such as the registration of households and Qimin, because Dingfu is no longer the focus of collection, so the registration of households and Qimin can only count the population of each ethnic group to enhance military control capabilities.
The problem now is that the Song Army is actually not short of soldiers.
Relocating the Hu people inland is not a long-term solution.
Turning the vast territory into fiscal revenue is the most meaningful thing.
It is a bit difficult for people to imagine a system.
But everyone is a learned person, and soon thought of taking history as a mirror.
Thousands of years of history in the Central Plains have left invaluable experience for future generations.
So after everyone chatted for a while, Mei Zhili said: "The minister thought of an allusion to a prosperous age. In the history of the Central Plains, there are only three prosperous ages. They are the prosperous age of Wuding, the prosperous age of Taikang, and the prosperous age of Kaiyuan."
"The prosperity of Taikang was created by the Jin Dynasty, and because of its unworthy descendants, it is often avoided by people. But if you look carefully, its laws are fair and the economy is prosperous, even today it is worth learning."
Zhao Huan really didn't know much about the prosperity of Taikang, so he asked, "What can we learn from?"
Mei Zhili said: "After the unification of the Jin Dynasty, the country implemented the system of occupying land and classifying land, and the grain produced by each farmer was owned by itself in addition to paying the land rent. This is actually quite different from the law of collecting silver for each mu in my dynasty. resemblance."
"This makes farmers highly motivated to produce. At this time, there is nothing wrong in the world, taxes are evenly distributed, and people enjoy their jobs in peace."
"Cows and horses are wild, the remaining grain is mu, and the huts are travelled. The outer houses are not closed, and the people meet like relatives. Those who are in need get money from the road. Therefore, there is a folk proverb that says that the world is infinite."
"The good governance of the Jin Dynasty was not due to the wisdom of its emperor. It was due to decades of wars at the end of the Han Dynasty and the Three Kingdoms, and the population was sparse. A man could occupy [-] mu of land and a woman [-] mu. So the harvest The finances obtained through empowerment are not as good as rent collection.”
Everyone is knowledgeable and knowledgeable, and can express their opinions on this historical fact. Ji Xiang Yang Shi said: "For the common people, this is indeed a prosperous age. How can a husband and wife occupy 120 acres of land not be rich? Especially remember the history books It is said that at that time, traffickers and pawns, maidservants and servants were also well-dressed."
Zhao Huan stuffed a piece of mango into his mouth and didn't say much.These literati and bureaucrats themselves know that if the people have land in their hands, the whole society will be highly prosperous.
But they just couldn't help their selfish desires to merge, and they swelled up, but they sucked up the wealth of the entire society and dragged down the country's poverty and darkness.
Everyone feels that if they seize a little bit, it won't cause much bad impact.But the whole class thought so, and the country quickly fell into the abyss.They are not far away from being beheaded by rebels, Hu captives, and raped (harmonious) prostitutes.
Yue Fei was born at the bottom, and he has a clearer understanding of rent and tax. He said: "The cattle and horses are wild, and the right minister wants to set up a rent and tax system in Longyou?"
(End of this chapter)
After Liu Kai's report, Zhao Huan fell into deep thought, thinking seriously about a question.
That is the land west of the West Sea, whether it is considered the territory of the Great Song Dynasty or not.
If it is not counted, then the land that Da Song can control is too little.
In the huge Longyou Duhu Mansion, Song Jun can strictly control and control only a farming area in the Huangshui River Basin.
Then is the other vast land, as long as there are Tubo people grazing, it is not the territory of the Great Song Dynasty?
After thinking about it, Zhao Huan felt that it should also be regarded as the territory of Song Dynasty.
First of all, the most important point is that Da Song strictly maintains the law and order here, and does not allow anyone to disrupt the stability of the Silk Road.
Secondly, this is just a pasture divided by the Song Dynasty for the operation of nomadic tribes.
Although various ministries of Tubo were nomadic and producing on it, the ownership of the land undoubtedly belonged to the Song Dynasty.The Longyou Protectorate can directly decide which tribes can live on which land.Any tribe that commits a crime will be directly expelled.
If land is the means of production, then Da Song is undoubtedly the owner of the means of production.It's just that this big chaebol doesn't have the energy to develop the grasslands west of the West Sea, so he leased them to the Tubo people for production and development.
Just like the scholar-bureaucrats in the Central Plains did not cultivate the land, they rented the cultivated land to the common people for farming.But the ownership of the land undoubtedly belonged to the big landowners.
The Central Plains has undoubtedly faced this problem since ancient times.
But if it is said that the land west of the West Sea belongs to the Song Dynasty, then where are the benefits they provide?
The dynasties of all dynasties have a wealth of land and resources, but when the economy is in trouble, they desperately squeeze the bottom people.Without considering how much resources and benefits the vast land can bring.
The vast land and abundant resources have not actually been transformed into the unparalleled strategic advantages of the Central Plains.On the contrary, the Central Plains dynasty was always worried about considering the cost of administrative expenses in distant places.
The influence of the Central Plains' tradition of emphasizing land tax and ignoring land tax not only wasted the advantage of land area, but also greatly weakened the strength of the border.
After Liu Qi finished speaking, Zhao Huangen and several ministers discussed: "I have read history books recently, and I have gained a little. Not only the Han and Tang Dynasties, but also our dynasty, also like to move people to guard the border."
"There are not enough Han people on the border, so it is said that the frontier is empty. If it is like the Han and Tang Dynasties, the frontier was ruled for a hundred years, but the frontier was powerful, and the scholar-officials hid their households and hid their household registrations, and the country fell into the plight of an empty border again."
"Where do you think the mistakes of the previous generation's political affairs are?"
Because it was a relaxed discussion, Ji Xiang Yang Shi spoke directly and said: "The so-called reality actually refers to the amount of money and food that can be collected in the frontier."
"It's not that there are many Han people in the frontiers, so there are many troops that can be formed. If it is only the army, with the population of the Central Plains, it can easily pull tens of thousands of 10,000+ people. The army marches hundreds of miles, and there is no difficulty for the country. So in There is no difference at all between conscription on the frontier and conscription in the interior."
"The key is to maintain the supply of these tens of thousands of people. If the frontier is full, a large amount of money and food can be collected directly, and there is no need to transfer materials from the mainland, then the army can be stationed on a larger scale. But if the frontier is empty and the mainland needs to continuously transfer materials, then Garrisoning troops on the frontier becomes a heavy burden on the country's finances."
The theory of accounting from a financial point of view is refreshing for everyone.Gained a clearer and more vivid understanding of the frontier situation.
Then Yang Shi said: "The reason why the frontiers have been corrupted repeatedly is because the Central Plains pays more attention to taxation and taxes the people on a head-by-head basis. Therefore, the people are overwhelmed and hide under the names of powerful and scholar-bureaucrats. The population that can be counted in the frontiers has decreased, so naturally the frontiers also It's just empty."
"So in the last years of the dynasty, even after a hundred years of development, without losing an inch of land, the strength of the frontier has seriously degraded, and the finances that can be provided are not as good as when the country was founded, and even become a heavy burden for the court."
Zhao Huan said: "I think the vast frontier has not been brought into full play by the court. Is it because the Hulu are not my kind, so they don't have to pay taxes?"
"As for the land of Longyou, what do Qing and others think?"
Several prime ministers did not revisit policies such as the registration of households and Qimin, because Dingfu is no longer the focus of collection, so the registration of households and Qimin can only count the population of each ethnic group to enhance military control capabilities.
The problem now is that the Song Army is actually not short of soldiers.
Relocating the Hu people inland is not a long-term solution.
Turning the vast territory into fiscal revenue is the most meaningful thing.
It is a bit difficult for people to imagine a system.
But everyone is a learned person, and soon thought of taking history as a mirror.
Thousands of years of history in the Central Plains have left invaluable experience for future generations.
So after everyone chatted for a while, Mei Zhili said: "The minister thought of an allusion to a prosperous age. In the history of the Central Plains, there are only three prosperous ages. They are the prosperous age of Wuding, the prosperous age of Taikang, and the prosperous age of Kaiyuan."
"The prosperity of Taikang was created by the Jin Dynasty, and because of its unworthy descendants, it is often avoided by people. But if you look carefully, its laws are fair and the economy is prosperous, even today it is worth learning."
Zhao Huan really didn't know much about the prosperity of Taikang, so he asked, "What can we learn from?"
Mei Zhili said: "After the unification of the Jin Dynasty, the country implemented the system of occupying land and classifying land, and the grain produced by each farmer was owned by itself in addition to paying the land rent. This is actually quite different from the law of collecting silver for each mu in my dynasty. resemblance."
"This makes farmers highly motivated to produce. At this time, there is nothing wrong in the world, taxes are evenly distributed, and people enjoy their jobs in peace."
"Cows and horses are wild, the remaining grain is mu, and the huts are travelled. The outer houses are not closed, and the people meet like relatives. Those who are in need get money from the road. Therefore, there is a folk proverb that says that the world is infinite."
"The good governance of the Jin Dynasty was not due to the wisdom of its emperor. It was due to decades of wars at the end of the Han Dynasty and the Three Kingdoms, and the population was sparse. A man could occupy [-] mu of land and a woman [-] mu. So the harvest The finances obtained through empowerment are not as good as rent collection.”
Everyone is knowledgeable and knowledgeable, and can express their opinions on this historical fact. Ji Xiang Yang Shi said: "For the common people, this is indeed a prosperous age. How can a husband and wife occupy 120 acres of land not be rich? Especially remember the history books It is said that at that time, traffickers and pawns, maidservants and servants were also well-dressed."
Zhao Huan stuffed a piece of mango into his mouth and didn't say much.These literati and bureaucrats themselves know that if the people have land in their hands, the whole society will be highly prosperous.
But they just couldn't help their selfish desires to merge, and they swelled up, but they sucked up the wealth of the entire society and dragged down the country's poverty and darkness.
Everyone feels that if they seize a little bit, it won't cause much bad impact.But the whole class thought so, and the country quickly fell into the abyss.They are not far away from being beheaded by rebels, Hu captives, and raped (harmonious) prostitutes.
Yue Fei was born at the bottom, and he has a clearer understanding of rent and tax. He said: "The cattle and horses are wild, and the right minister wants to set up a rent and tax system in Longyou?"
(End of this chapter)
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