my return 2002
Chapter 364
Chapter 364
Jelson did receive the highest level of courtesy at Penguin, and Penguin executives such as Xiao Ma and Zhang Zhidong warmly received him.
In fact, due to the pressing force of the star system, Penguin has also reached the edge of the cliff at this time.
Originally on the mobile side, Penguin occupied a large number of low-end mobile phone markets by virtue of its first-mover advantage. At the same time, it also began to develop a mobile version of QQ based on the Symbian system, bringing a large number of mobile users to Penguin.
However, in just two years, the mobile terminal YY has taken away a large number of mobile terminal users from QQ by virtue of the star system, which is a very dangerous signal for Penguin.
After all, QQ on the PC side has lagged behind in the number of users and user stickiness. If the mobile side is reversed, the entire Penguin Empire is in danger of collapse.
In fact, at the beginning, Brother Xiao Ma also thought about whether he should reconcile softly with Shen Langfu, but soon Brother Xiao Ma dismissed this idea completely. The reason is also very simple. Instant messaging software is different from other types of software, and it is very difficult. Coexistence, not to mention anything else, just the advantage of pre-installation at the factory is enough for YY to maintain its lead over QQ.
Brother Xiao Ma is not a person who can get rich when he is a little rich. If he doesn't do it, he will be the biggest one if he wants to.
The emergence of the Android system at this time can be seen as the dawn of defeating Shen Lang. In Xiao Ma’s view, although the Android system has just started in the mainland, there are so many software and hardware manufacturers backed by Google, and the strength is strong. It is not something Shen Lang's family can contend with. Joining the Android camp at this time is just a timely help.
Jason is also very happy, this is the first time he has enjoyed such treatment since he came to the mainland.
Of course, after exchanging pleasantries, Jason did not forget the purpose of this trip.
"Mr. Ma, I believe you also know that the Android system is about to officially enter the mainland market. We hope to get Penguin's software support. I think this is the best result for both of us."
Although Brother Xiao Ma intends to join the Android camp, he is not stupid. How could he miss such an opportunity to negotiate terms? He pretended to be embarrassed and said: "Mr. Jelson, you should know that the mobile operating system market in the mainland has already It has formed a situation where the Star system and the Symbian system are competing for hegemony, and it is not easy for the Android system to get a piece of the pie."
Jelson frowned slightly when he heard the words: "Yes, the environment in the mainland market is indeed a bit complicated, but this is nothing to us. In the international market, we are confident that we will quickly defeat Symbian, and I think the mainland market is no exception. "
Brother Xiao Ma shook his head noncommittally: "The mainland market is different. It seems that Google is invincible in the international market, but in the mainland, you can't even beat 360 search, let alone Baidu."
Jelson's blood pressure suddenly went up. If he had no other choice, he would want to leave here now.
"Mr. Ma, as you said, the mainland market is somewhat special, which is why we hope to cooperate with Penguin, and as far as I know, Penguin has also been pushed to the edge of a cliff by Inspur Group, I don't think you want to see Will Star System unify the mobile phone operating system in the mainland? At that time, what we will lose is just a good market, but what Penguin will face is the soil where we can live and work.”
Brother Xiao Ma's face is a little ugly, which is exactly what he is most worried about. The Star system has become a big killer in the hands of Inspur Group. Once the Star system completely defeats the Saipan system, it will dominate the mainland market. At that time, Penguin could only rely on the PC market to survive.
Judging from the current trend, the popularization of 3G mobile phones is a certainty, and the era of mobile Internet is bound to be the general trend. Once the mobile Internet market is lost, Penguin will be completely reduced to a thing of the past.
"Okay, of course we are willing to cooperate, but you should know that Penguin involves a lot of software applications. If all of them are converted to mobile terminals, it will cost a lot of manpower, material resources, and financial resources. We don't have that much money." Little Ma started crying poor .
In fact, Penguin is not rich. Although relying on advertising and membership income, Penguin’s annual revenue is several billion yuan, but after excluding various operating and sales costs, the profit is only more than one billion yuan.
This money seems to be a lot, but for such a huge penguin, it can only be regarded as barely enough. This is also the reason why Xiao Ma has always placed high hopes on the game business. He really has no money in his pocket to make trouble.
Seeing Shen Lang spending a lot of money, Brother Xiao Ma is so envious!
Jelson frowned when he heard this: "It is impossible for us to pay this amount of money."
Does Google have money?There must be, but Google can’t do it, and the reason is very simple. If Penguin asks for money, Google will give it. What if some other software and hardware manufacturers come to ask Google for money?
To give or not to Google?This precedent cannot be set, or there will be endless troubles.
Brother Xiao Ma naturally knew that it was impossible to get money directly from Google, so he gave another solution.
"What if it's an investment?"
Jelson's eyes lit up: "I can report this to the company. How much investment do you need?"
"At least [-] million U.S. dollars!" Xiao Ma sighed secretly. If it were before the subprime mortgage crisis broke out, he wouldn't be so worried about the mere [-] million U.S. dollars. In the fall, everyone wants to escape from the stock market, and there is no financing channel at all.
Jelson thought for a while, [-] million US dollars was nothing to Google, and Brother Ma's proposal also opened up a way of thinking for him.
Since the cooperation fails, why don't you just invest directly and take the money to do something?
Brother Xiao Ma and Jelson were quite satisfied with the results of the meeting, and Brother Xiao Ma specially prepared a dinner for Jelson's team.
It wasn't until early in the morning that Jelson returned to the hotel room, washed his face, and began to report to Google's core management on the situation in the mainland.
In the video conference, Jelson emphasized the strong competitors in the mainland market, but Jelson could tell that the group of people sitting in the office on the other side of the ocean didn't think so.
They feel that Symbian is the biggest competitor of Android at present, not the star system which is relatively safe in the mainland market.
Naturally, Li Kaifu's plan to let Google acquire the star system was not adopted, and Jelson had to re-report to them the inspiration he got from Brother Ma.
This time, Google's core management unanimously agreed with Jelson's plan. Ten billion dollars is too much for Google. If it is only a few hundred million dollars, Google can still afford it, and it is also an investment. The Internet market is in the development stage, and the funds from all over the world are gathering in the mainland under the subprime mortgage crisis. No matter how you look at it, this transaction kills two birds with one stone.
In the end, Jelson got a project budget of 1.5 million U.S. dollars. Of course, the [-] million U.S. dollars that Penguin asked for was directly discounted in half, and only [-] million U.S. dollars was approved.
Brother Xiao Ma didn’t dislike it either, it’s better than nothing, and 1.5 million US dollars is equivalent to more than one billion yuan, enough for Penguin to port all the application software to the Android system.
For this reason, Jelson and Brother Xiaoma also held a special press conference. On the one hand, it was to promote the Android system, and on the other hand, it was also to let Google headquarters see his achievements. Brother Xiaoma also needed this cooperation to revive Penguin's development. The stock price, the two sides hit it off.
At the press conference, Jelson expressed complacently that the cooperation model of Android system + Lenovo mobile phone + Penguin software will completely break the existing pattern of the mainland mobile phone market.
After reaching a cooperation with Penguin, Jelson visited some Internet companies non-stop. Under the temptation of real money, some companies really agreed to cooperate with Google.
Among them are mainstream Internet companies such as Youku, Huicong.com, and Gaopeng. The momentum of the Android system has also grown for a while. Is it on fire?
Of course, Jelson is not satisfied with this. Google approved him [-] million US dollars in funding, not for him to catch these small fish and shrimp. He knows very well that if the Android system has a complete ecological chain , in addition to Penguin, a heavyweight Internet company is also needed to join.
So, Jelson came to Hangzhou, the headquarters of Ali.
Jack Ma did not receive Jelson himself, but asked Cai Chongxin to receive him on his behalf, because he was participating in the recording of a program and couldn't get away.
Although he knew it was an excuse, Jelson could only talk to Cai Chongxin first.
"Mr. Cai, you should know the purpose of my trip. I hope Ali can join our Android camp. And as far as I know, Ali has huge overseas business needs, and we can give you some help!"
Cai Chongxin smiled noncommittally: "Mr. Jelson, you should know that our relationship with Inspur Group has always been very good, and our personal relationship between Mr. Ma and Mr. Shen has also been good. Taobao is the first star-based system. third-party applications."
"What's more, our mobile applications: Taobao and Alipay already have tens of millions of users in the star system, and switching to the Android camp means losing these users, which is completely unacceptable to us."
Jelson naturally knows that the so-called tens of millions of users are nonsense. After all, the number of smart phones based on the star system is only 1.2 million. According to Cai Chongxin, one of the four people is using Taobao. But according to the number of software downloads on the Xingchen system, the total downloads of Taobao and Alipay are only more than 500 million times.
"Actually, we didn't mean to ask Ali to choose between the two. Google is an open and inclusive platform. Do you understand what I mean?" Jelson said furiously.
Cai Chongxin is also an old Jianghu, and he doesn't follow his style at all, and smiled playfully: "No, you don't know Mr. Shen, believe me, he will not agree to coexist with the Android system, there will definitely be a relationship between you." There's a big fight."
"Then it will be us who win." Jelson sneered.
Cai Chongxin spread his hands noncommittal: "Maybe, but we can't take this risk, otherwise we won't be able to explain to the shareholders."
Jason was a little impatient: "Okay, tell us your conditions."
"[-] million US dollars, maybe I can try to convince President Ma with this money." Cai Chongxin showed a gentle smile.
However, this smile seemed greedy and evil to Jelson, and he immediately stood up: "No, it's impossible!"
Cai Chongxin said unhurriedly: "Perhaps Mr. Jelson can go back and think about it before giving me an answer."
"I'll say it again, $1.5 million is impossible, at most $[-] million." Jelson gritted his teeth.
Cai Chongxin's eyes froze: "Mr. Jelson thinks we are worth as much as penguins?"
"No, in my opinion, the value of Penguin to the Android system far exceeds that of Ali. This is the greatest sincerity I can show." Jelson sneered with a warning tone.
After speaking, Jason left.
It didn't take long for Jack Ma to open the door and come in. In fact, he had been in the next room and observed the conversation between the two through surveillance and recording.
Cai Chongxin smiled helplessly at Jack Ma: "This Jelson is not a fuel-efficient lamp."
"Of course, being able to sit in a position as high as Google's is not a waste of time, but it's all within our expectations, isn't it?" Jack Ma said calmly.
Cai Chongxin hesitated for a moment, and suddenly asked seriously: "Are you really planning to cooperate with Google? Are you afraid that Shen Lang will turn his back on you? He has no good temper."
Jack Ma sighed after hearing the words: "Oh, after all, it was a bad move. Who would have thought that he really built the star system."
"If I knew this earlier, I would have to build a mobile phone operating system myself for how much money I spent, so I wouldn't be worried all day like I am now."
The star system has indeed brought a large number of high-quality users to Taobao. Now Taobao mobile users contribute hundreds of millions of revenue to Ali every month. After one year, the revenue data is close to 20 billion, which is much more powerful than PC users. .
The more this is the case, the more Jack Ma is afraid that one day Shen Lang will support other e-commerce companies to beat him. Shen Lang's investment in JD.com has already touched his sensitive nerves.
Jack Ma is a person with a strong desire for control. He will feel insecure about things that he has no control over. It seems that he keeps saying that he can't do logistics by himself, but he has been investing money in express companies. First-hand orders + investment Carrots, the big stick to block with one hand, is to firmly hold the express company in your hands.
"Is there still time for us to develop an operating system?" Cai Chongxin asked in a deep voice.
Jack Ma shook his head helplessly: "The best opportunity has been missed. I have to admit that Shen Lang's vision is really poisonous. Look at the current posture of the Android system. At the same time, it is impossible for us to beat Google at the same time."
"What I admire the most is that he didn't try to grab the international market, but devoted himself to the domestic market and spent all his money wisely."
It was not the first time for Cai Chongxin to hear Jack Ma praise Shen Lang, but he found that Jack Ma's evaluation of Shen Lang seemed to be getting higher and higher, which was not like Jack Ma's arrogant character.
"Then what should we do now? Promise to cooperate with Google, what if Shen Lang turns around and blocks us?"
Jack Ma sighed: "Don't be in a hurry, let me go to Shanghai and find out what he has to say."
(End of this chapter)
Jelson did receive the highest level of courtesy at Penguin, and Penguin executives such as Xiao Ma and Zhang Zhidong warmly received him.
In fact, due to the pressing force of the star system, Penguin has also reached the edge of the cliff at this time.
Originally on the mobile side, Penguin occupied a large number of low-end mobile phone markets by virtue of its first-mover advantage. At the same time, it also began to develop a mobile version of QQ based on the Symbian system, bringing a large number of mobile users to Penguin.
However, in just two years, the mobile terminal YY has taken away a large number of mobile terminal users from QQ by virtue of the star system, which is a very dangerous signal for Penguin.
After all, QQ on the PC side has lagged behind in the number of users and user stickiness. If the mobile side is reversed, the entire Penguin Empire is in danger of collapse.
In fact, at the beginning, Brother Xiao Ma also thought about whether he should reconcile softly with Shen Langfu, but soon Brother Xiao Ma dismissed this idea completely. The reason is also very simple. Instant messaging software is different from other types of software, and it is very difficult. Coexistence, not to mention anything else, just the advantage of pre-installation at the factory is enough for YY to maintain its lead over QQ.
Brother Xiao Ma is not a person who can get rich when he is a little rich. If he doesn't do it, he will be the biggest one if he wants to.
The emergence of the Android system at this time can be seen as the dawn of defeating Shen Lang. In Xiao Ma’s view, although the Android system has just started in the mainland, there are so many software and hardware manufacturers backed by Google, and the strength is strong. It is not something Shen Lang's family can contend with. Joining the Android camp at this time is just a timely help.
Jason is also very happy, this is the first time he has enjoyed such treatment since he came to the mainland.
Of course, after exchanging pleasantries, Jason did not forget the purpose of this trip.
"Mr. Ma, I believe you also know that the Android system is about to officially enter the mainland market. We hope to get Penguin's software support. I think this is the best result for both of us."
Although Brother Xiao Ma intends to join the Android camp, he is not stupid. How could he miss such an opportunity to negotiate terms? He pretended to be embarrassed and said: "Mr. Jelson, you should know that the mobile operating system market in the mainland has already It has formed a situation where the Star system and the Symbian system are competing for hegemony, and it is not easy for the Android system to get a piece of the pie."
Jelson frowned slightly when he heard the words: "Yes, the environment in the mainland market is indeed a bit complicated, but this is nothing to us. In the international market, we are confident that we will quickly defeat Symbian, and I think the mainland market is no exception. "
Brother Xiao Ma shook his head noncommittally: "The mainland market is different. It seems that Google is invincible in the international market, but in the mainland, you can't even beat 360 search, let alone Baidu."
Jelson's blood pressure suddenly went up. If he had no other choice, he would want to leave here now.
"Mr. Ma, as you said, the mainland market is somewhat special, which is why we hope to cooperate with Penguin, and as far as I know, Penguin has also been pushed to the edge of a cliff by Inspur Group, I don't think you want to see Will Star System unify the mobile phone operating system in the mainland? At that time, what we will lose is just a good market, but what Penguin will face is the soil where we can live and work.”
Brother Xiao Ma's face is a little ugly, which is exactly what he is most worried about. The Star system has become a big killer in the hands of Inspur Group. Once the Star system completely defeats the Saipan system, it will dominate the mainland market. At that time, Penguin could only rely on the PC market to survive.
Judging from the current trend, the popularization of 3G mobile phones is a certainty, and the era of mobile Internet is bound to be the general trend. Once the mobile Internet market is lost, Penguin will be completely reduced to a thing of the past.
"Okay, of course we are willing to cooperate, but you should know that Penguin involves a lot of software applications. If all of them are converted to mobile terminals, it will cost a lot of manpower, material resources, and financial resources. We don't have that much money." Little Ma started crying poor .
In fact, Penguin is not rich. Although relying on advertising and membership income, Penguin’s annual revenue is several billion yuan, but after excluding various operating and sales costs, the profit is only more than one billion yuan.
This money seems to be a lot, but for such a huge penguin, it can only be regarded as barely enough. This is also the reason why Xiao Ma has always placed high hopes on the game business. He really has no money in his pocket to make trouble.
Seeing Shen Lang spending a lot of money, Brother Xiao Ma is so envious!
Jelson frowned when he heard this: "It is impossible for us to pay this amount of money."
Does Google have money?There must be, but Google can’t do it, and the reason is very simple. If Penguin asks for money, Google will give it. What if some other software and hardware manufacturers come to ask Google for money?
To give or not to Google?This precedent cannot be set, or there will be endless troubles.
Brother Xiao Ma naturally knew that it was impossible to get money directly from Google, so he gave another solution.
"What if it's an investment?"
Jelson's eyes lit up: "I can report this to the company. How much investment do you need?"
"At least [-] million U.S. dollars!" Xiao Ma sighed secretly. If it were before the subprime mortgage crisis broke out, he wouldn't be so worried about the mere [-] million U.S. dollars. In the fall, everyone wants to escape from the stock market, and there is no financing channel at all.
Jelson thought for a while, [-] million US dollars was nothing to Google, and Brother Ma's proposal also opened up a way of thinking for him.
Since the cooperation fails, why don't you just invest directly and take the money to do something?
Brother Xiao Ma and Jelson were quite satisfied with the results of the meeting, and Brother Xiao Ma specially prepared a dinner for Jelson's team.
It wasn't until early in the morning that Jelson returned to the hotel room, washed his face, and began to report to Google's core management on the situation in the mainland.
In the video conference, Jelson emphasized the strong competitors in the mainland market, but Jelson could tell that the group of people sitting in the office on the other side of the ocean didn't think so.
They feel that Symbian is the biggest competitor of Android at present, not the star system which is relatively safe in the mainland market.
Naturally, Li Kaifu's plan to let Google acquire the star system was not adopted, and Jelson had to re-report to them the inspiration he got from Brother Ma.
This time, Google's core management unanimously agreed with Jelson's plan. Ten billion dollars is too much for Google. If it is only a few hundred million dollars, Google can still afford it, and it is also an investment. The Internet market is in the development stage, and the funds from all over the world are gathering in the mainland under the subprime mortgage crisis. No matter how you look at it, this transaction kills two birds with one stone.
In the end, Jelson got a project budget of 1.5 million U.S. dollars. Of course, the [-] million U.S. dollars that Penguin asked for was directly discounted in half, and only [-] million U.S. dollars was approved.
Brother Xiao Ma didn’t dislike it either, it’s better than nothing, and 1.5 million US dollars is equivalent to more than one billion yuan, enough for Penguin to port all the application software to the Android system.
For this reason, Jelson and Brother Xiaoma also held a special press conference. On the one hand, it was to promote the Android system, and on the other hand, it was also to let Google headquarters see his achievements. Brother Xiaoma also needed this cooperation to revive Penguin's development. The stock price, the two sides hit it off.
At the press conference, Jelson expressed complacently that the cooperation model of Android system + Lenovo mobile phone + Penguin software will completely break the existing pattern of the mainland mobile phone market.
After reaching a cooperation with Penguin, Jelson visited some Internet companies non-stop. Under the temptation of real money, some companies really agreed to cooperate with Google.
Among them are mainstream Internet companies such as Youku, Huicong.com, and Gaopeng. The momentum of the Android system has also grown for a while. Is it on fire?
Of course, Jelson is not satisfied with this. Google approved him [-] million US dollars in funding, not for him to catch these small fish and shrimp. He knows very well that if the Android system has a complete ecological chain , in addition to Penguin, a heavyweight Internet company is also needed to join.
So, Jelson came to Hangzhou, the headquarters of Ali.
Jack Ma did not receive Jelson himself, but asked Cai Chongxin to receive him on his behalf, because he was participating in the recording of a program and couldn't get away.
Although he knew it was an excuse, Jelson could only talk to Cai Chongxin first.
"Mr. Cai, you should know the purpose of my trip. I hope Ali can join our Android camp. And as far as I know, Ali has huge overseas business needs, and we can give you some help!"
Cai Chongxin smiled noncommittally: "Mr. Jelson, you should know that our relationship with Inspur Group has always been very good, and our personal relationship between Mr. Ma and Mr. Shen has also been good. Taobao is the first star-based system. third-party applications."
"What's more, our mobile applications: Taobao and Alipay already have tens of millions of users in the star system, and switching to the Android camp means losing these users, which is completely unacceptable to us."
Jelson naturally knows that the so-called tens of millions of users are nonsense. After all, the number of smart phones based on the star system is only 1.2 million. According to Cai Chongxin, one of the four people is using Taobao. But according to the number of software downloads on the Xingchen system, the total downloads of Taobao and Alipay are only more than 500 million times.
"Actually, we didn't mean to ask Ali to choose between the two. Google is an open and inclusive platform. Do you understand what I mean?" Jelson said furiously.
Cai Chongxin is also an old Jianghu, and he doesn't follow his style at all, and smiled playfully: "No, you don't know Mr. Shen, believe me, he will not agree to coexist with the Android system, there will definitely be a relationship between you." There's a big fight."
"Then it will be us who win." Jelson sneered.
Cai Chongxin spread his hands noncommittal: "Maybe, but we can't take this risk, otherwise we won't be able to explain to the shareholders."
Jason was a little impatient: "Okay, tell us your conditions."
"[-] million US dollars, maybe I can try to convince President Ma with this money." Cai Chongxin showed a gentle smile.
However, this smile seemed greedy and evil to Jelson, and he immediately stood up: "No, it's impossible!"
Cai Chongxin said unhurriedly: "Perhaps Mr. Jelson can go back and think about it before giving me an answer."
"I'll say it again, $1.5 million is impossible, at most $[-] million." Jelson gritted his teeth.
Cai Chongxin's eyes froze: "Mr. Jelson thinks we are worth as much as penguins?"
"No, in my opinion, the value of Penguin to the Android system far exceeds that of Ali. This is the greatest sincerity I can show." Jelson sneered with a warning tone.
After speaking, Jason left.
It didn't take long for Jack Ma to open the door and come in. In fact, he had been in the next room and observed the conversation between the two through surveillance and recording.
Cai Chongxin smiled helplessly at Jack Ma: "This Jelson is not a fuel-efficient lamp."
"Of course, being able to sit in a position as high as Google's is not a waste of time, but it's all within our expectations, isn't it?" Jack Ma said calmly.
Cai Chongxin hesitated for a moment, and suddenly asked seriously: "Are you really planning to cooperate with Google? Are you afraid that Shen Lang will turn his back on you? He has no good temper."
Jack Ma sighed after hearing the words: "Oh, after all, it was a bad move. Who would have thought that he really built the star system."
"If I knew this earlier, I would have to build a mobile phone operating system myself for how much money I spent, so I wouldn't be worried all day like I am now."
The star system has indeed brought a large number of high-quality users to Taobao. Now Taobao mobile users contribute hundreds of millions of revenue to Ali every month. After one year, the revenue data is close to 20 billion, which is much more powerful than PC users. .
The more this is the case, the more Jack Ma is afraid that one day Shen Lang will support other e-commerce companies to beat him. Shen Lang's investment in JD.com has already touched his sensitive nerves.
Jack Ma is a person with a strong desire for control. He will feel insecure about things that he has no control over. It seems that he keeps saying that he can't do logistics by himself, but he has been investing money in express companies. First-hand orders + investment Carrots, the big stick to block with one hand, is to firmly hold the express company in your hands.
"Is there still time for us to develop an operating system?" Cai Chongxin asked in a deep voice.
Jack Ma shook his head helplessly: "The best opportunity has been missed. I have to admit that Shen Lang's vision is really poisonous. Look at the current posture of the Android system. At the same time, it is impossible for us to beat Google at the same time."
"What I admire the most is that he didn't try to grab the international market, but devoted himself to the domestic market and spent all his money wisely."
It was not the first time for Cai Chongxin to hear Jack Ma praise Shen Lang, but he found that Jack Ma's evaluation of Shen Lang seemed to be getting higher and higher, which was not like Jack Ma's arrogant character.
"Then what should we do now? Promise to cooperate with Google, what if Shen Lang turns around and blocks us?"
Jack Ma sighed: "Don't be in a hurry, let me go to Shanghai and find out what he has to say."
(End of this chapter)
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