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Chapter 411 Your thoughts are quite naive
Your thinking is quite naive...

After living for so many years, it was the first time that the Sage of the Six Paths heard someone commenting on him like this.

In the past, when people commented on him, they all praised how strong and great he was, said he was a benevolent and fraternal person, and praised the ideas pursued by the ninja sect he established. No one ever said that his ideas were naive.

Being evaluated as childish, the Sage of the Six Paths was not angry at all, but rather curious: "The descendants of Hamura, why do you say that?"

Ning Ci said: "You founded the Ninja sect, preaching that people should trust and help each other, and achieve peace with love, but what are the specific implementation methods? Mutual trust and mutual assistance, what is trust, and what is the standard of assistance? If What if someone violated mutual trust and mutual assistance?"

The Sage of the Six Paths didn't answer, because he thought about it carefully. In the ninja sect he established, there was no answer to the question Neji asked.

Mutual trust and mutual assistance, even if something happens, everyone must trust each other, and there will be no misunderstanding, resentment, or hatred. That is, whoever has difficulties, can help them out, and when it is their turn to have difficulties, it is better to go Accept help from others.

What's wrong with this?
completely fine!
Is there any way to implement it?

There is no need at all, because this is a matter of course and well-known!

But if there is no problem, then why did the Ninja sect fall apart, and the ideas pursued by the Ninja sect were not spread?

The ninja sect fell apart, and the ideology pursued by the ninja sect is not the current mainstream in the ninja world. It can even be said that it has been thrown away by the current ninja, which shows that there are problems, and the problems are quite big.

After a long silence, the Immortal of the Six Paths said: "Descendants of Yumura, do you think I did something wrong?"

Ning Ci said: "Of course you are wrong. Although your intentions are good, your actions are wrong. As a result, since your death, the ninja world has become more turbulent and the fights have become more cruel."

"You establish Ninja sect, spread chakra, expect people to trust and help each other, and achieve peace with love. This idea is correct, but if you put this idea entirely on people's moral consciousness, it is a big mistake. "

Moral consciousness?

The Sage of the Six Paths heard another new term.

Ningci continued: "I have said before that 'everyone has selfishness', 'people's hearts are good and evil, good and bad, not good or evil, good or bad'," Even a good person who is praised by everyone may not have dark thoughts in his heart', you put your thoughts entirely on people's moral consciousness, but you are too subjective to believe that people are good."

"If everyone is a pure and good person without selfishness, your idea is certainly feasible, but a real human heart has both good and evil! Have you ever thought about a question..." Ning Ci paused, looking at the Sage of the Six Paths , making the Sage of the Six Paths wonder, what's the problem?
Ning Ci shook his head and said: "It seems that you haven't thought about it! I have already said that your idea can only work if everyone is a pure and kind person without selfishness, but if someone has selfishness and pays for it in the ninja sect you established In reality, what will happen?"

Immortal of the Six Paths was startled, he really hadn't thought about this question, but what's the point?The Ninja sect fell apart, and the ideas they pursued were not passed on. What has it to do with it?
Ning Ci said: "For your understanding, let me give you an example! In your ninja sect, people should trust each other and help each other, that is to say, when someone encounters difficulties, others should lend a helping hand to support them. "

"But if the person who is in trouble is not really in trouble, he just makes himself in trouble because he is lazy and doesn't want to work, because he knows that according to your thinking, he will be helped by others when he is in trouble, and he must You won’t die from hunger, thirst, cold, or sickness.”

Hearing this, the Immortal of the Six Paths already understood what Ning Ci was going to say, and his heart moved. It turned out that this was the reason for the disintegration of the Ninja sect.

He sighed secretly, it was true that the Ninja sect collapsed unjustly, he was naive, but why didn't he think of it before?Why were these problems not exposed when he was alive?
These questions emerged from the consciousness of the Immortal of the Six Paths, and he thought of the answer in a second: He was too strong when he was alive, except for Indra, who would dare to stab him, who would dare to disobey his will?
Even if they are dissatisfied with him and the ninja sect he established, others will not show it, they will just bury it in their hearts.

And when he passed away, Asura and his descendants, who inherited the Ninja sect, did not have his invincible power to suppress everything, and the problems that should have erupted naturally broke out one after another, eventually leading to the disintegration of the Ninja sect.

Ning Ci said: "Under the ninja sect you established, that lazy person can eat and drink well without having to work himself every day with the help of others. What do those hard-working people think?"

"..." The Immortal of the Six Paths didn't say a word, thinking with his toes, he knew what those hard-working people thought.

Ning Ci said: "Of course I feel uncomfortable. They will think that why the lazy man can eat spicy food even if he doesn't work. They are supporting him by working hard? Over time, this phenomenon will not be stopped by punishment. people will gradually stop working.”

"Because working hard and eating the same food as not working anyway, what are you doing? Why don't you just hide away and wait for help from others. This is one of the reasons why the Ninja sect fell apart!"

"In addition to this reason, the ninja sect you established has too high moral requirements on people, but actually lowers the moral level."

It is also a very fresh sentence that has never been heard before. The Sage of the Six Paths is very puzzled. The ninja sect he established has high moral requirements for people. Why does it lower the actual moral level?
"At first, I didn't understand it, until the senior told me a story: The senior said that in a certain world, there is a country named 'Lu State', and there is a law in Lu State, and the people of Lu State become slaves abroad. If someone can redeem them, the ransom can be reimbursed from the state treasury."

"Once, a man in another country used his own money to redeem a Lu citizen who had been enslaved, but when he returned home, he refused the state compensation."

This is a good thing. Do good deeds without expecting anything in return. This person is very kind, and it is in line with the thoughts he pursues in the Ninja sect. What's the problem?
The Sage of the Six Paths couldn't figure it out. Besides, who is the predecessor in the words of the descendants of Hamura? I have never heard of a country called "Lu Country" in the world?

Ning Ci said: "After this man's practice was learned by his teacher, the teacher not only did not praise him, but educated him, saying that it is not a good thing for him not to receive compensation from the state, because some well-known things will change customs. Habits affect the behavior of other people, such as what this person did, he saved people without expecting anything in return, it is indeed very noble in morality.”

"After this story spreads, other people will definitely use him as a role model. Even if some people don't like it in their hearts, they will praise him on the surface for what he did. But..."

Ning made a turning point: "This man is very rich, so it doesn't matter if he doesn't receive state compensation, but there are few rich people in Lu country and many poor people. Compatriots, what should we do? Should they save them or not?"

"If you don't save them, you will feel sorry for your conscience; if you can save them, they have to pay for their own money to redeem people. But after saving people back to the country, because of the precedent of that rich man, they are not good at accepting the country's compensation, because once they accept it, they will lose money." Morally, they are not as noble as that rich man, and people will even maliciously criticize them for saving people for the compensation of the state, which is out of selfishness."

"Do you think they will save in the end, or will they not?"

The Immortal of the Six Paths was silent again, the answer is obvious, it must not be saved!
Ning Ci said: "Most people will choose not to save them, because they are not rich enough. If they save others with their own money, they will get nothing but a good name, and it will make their lives difficult. Save? Rather than that, it’s better to pretend to turn a blind eye and not know that there are compatriots who are slaves!”

"After listening to the teacher's words, the rich man rescued another man who fell into the water. The man thanked him and gave him a cow. This time, he did not refuse and accepted it. The rich man's teacher saw this scene , saying that now the Lu people will be brave enough to save those who fell into the water."

"The ninja sect you established also has the problem of the rich man. You have too high moral requirements on people. When they know they can't do it, even if they see someone in deep trouble and urgently need their help, they will turn a blind eye."

"Because they did it, not only will they not get any real rewards, but they may get into trouble, so why should they save them? Isn't it better to pretend that they don't see and don't know?"

The Sage of the Six Paths is still silent. He never thought about this, but when he established the Ninja School, he felt that people could do it and should do it. He didn't expect that his high expectations for people would be like shackles on people. When you can't do it, just don't do it at all.

He has already thought about the consequences of this influence, so that some people who need help and instinctively get help will not get help in the end...

It's like someone drowning, who could have been rescued, but because he has too high moral requirements on people, people turn a blind eye to the drowning person and let him drown.

When the Ninja sect fell apart, I am afraid that not only is it not the people he expected to help each other and overcome difficulties together, but it is more likely that they are indifferent to each other's plight, and may even make trouble.

'The descendants of Hamura are right, my thoughts are really naive!The descendants of Hamura can see through all these things, so they must also know the solution. I used to think that the path of Asura would bring peace to the ninja world for a long time..." Sage of the Six Paths said secretly, and he looked at Neji expectantly.

Ning Ci continued: "Actually, if you want to really carry forward the Ninja sect and let everyone abide by it, you need to formulate detailed laws to let people realize that doing good deeds is beneficial, and doing bad deeds is punished, not simply Shouting a few slogans can convince people. In a sense, you and Senjujuma are the same kind of people!"

"Thousand-handed pillars, the descendants of Asura, the reincarnation of Asura Chakra?"The descendant of Indra seems to have obtained Asura's Chakra from him, which led to the power of the old man... But what does the old man have in common with him? '

The Immortal of the Six Paths was thinking, while listening to Ning Ci said: "You and Qianshou Zhujian are the most powerful people in that life, especially you, who are almost invincible in your era."

"You are too strong, so when you were alive, no one dared to oppose the rules you set, so the peace at that time was maintained. Your ninja system, Senjuzhujian's 'one country, one village' system, It all looked beautiful at the time, no problem."

"But in fact, it's not that there are no problems. It's just because of your strength that you put all the problems under the water. So, after you passed away, the ninja sect fell apart, and the ninja world war broke out again, and it was far more tragic than before."

"This is also the second mistake you and Senjujuma shared. You clearly had the strength to unify the ninja world, but you didn't do it. You established the Ninja sect and let people develop freely. Village', not only allows the daimyo and the shadows to rule the country together, but also allows many ninja villages to coexist."

"I don't know that the more forces there are at the same level, the more complicated people's hearts are. Because of the different interests of each other, forces and groups often have far more acute conflicts and problems than in the same organization, so once a war breaks out, it will be so fierce. Dire."

"If you and Senjujuma can unify the ninja world and establish laws, even after you die, wars will still happen, but sooner or later they will be unified and return to peace."

"Especially in your era, you unified the ninja world. Even if the ninja sect is still falling apart, every once in a while, the world will be unified, and peace ranging from decades to hundreds of years will be achieved. Because the idea of ​​unity has been planted In the hearts of people in the ninja world, they will not always be in a state of division, and war may break out at any time, "The general trend of the world, the long-term unity must be divided, and the long-term must be united"!"

The Immortal of the Six Paths was quite shocked when he heard the phrase "the general trend of the world, if it is united for a long time, it will be divided, and if it is divided for a long time, it will be united".

Ning Ci sighed: "It's a pity that you didn't. You don't know how important unification is to a war-torn world. You missed two opportunities to make the ninja world peaceful!"

"Although after the ninja world was unified in your era, it should not be possible to make the unified ninja world last for a long time, but it is better than fighting all the time."

"Of course, this can't be all your fault. Your naive thinking is also subject to the limitations of the times. In the professional terms of the predecessors, it is the cognitive limitations caused by the education you have received."

Hearing Ning Ci mention that mysterious senior again, the Sage of the Six Paths became more and more curious. Who is the senior that the descendants of Hamura mentioned?Is it someone he knows, or someone he doesn't know?

Ning Ci said: "The education you receive will form your thinking habits and cognitions. It is always difficult for people to break through existing cognitions, so you can't think of these. Simply put, we are always used to thinking about known things. things, and don’t know how to think about the unknown.”

"Descendants of Hamura, this old man admits that what you said is justified..."

Sage of Six Paths looked at Ning Ci with extremely serious eyes: "But how do you want to change the ninja world?"

(End of this chapter)