China Entertainment: Indulge in Vanity Fair
Chapter 404 Some things are not what everyone thinks
Chapter 404 Some things are not what everyone thinks
The forum of "Opportunities and Challenges: China Film Policy Dialogue" is still going on, but the people present are already in a mess. Of course, there are some people who are very relaxed and happy, such as Director Wang.
He, the director of the Policy and Regulations Department, was initially criticized by the two literary and art directors, and two policy researchers also listed various bad policies, which made him a little ashamed, as if they were blaming them in the Policy and Regulations Department. He has not been involved in human affairs for years and has not done anything practical.
In fact, this is not the case. They study and compare the excellent systems of various countries around the world every day, but they are helpless to find that if they want to copy foreign systems, they will directly deny domestic laws, and some even deny the Supreme Court. Provisions.
How can such a policy be formulated?So many things that Fang said abroad may not necessarily apply to China, which is completely different.
"Some people will still be dissatisfied with what I just said. They will think that foreign countries are open and they are allowed to criticize. I still say the same thing. If you have the ability, go to the United States to criticize capitalism. If you have the ability, go to the United States and criticize their judges' tenure system. Try it. If you have the ability, try to go to the United States to criticize the Jews. If you have the ability, try to go to the United States to criticize homosexuality. If you have the ability, try to go to the United States to criticize marijuana. If you have the ability, try to go to the United Kingdom to criticize the monarchy...
There are many things that cannot be criticized in the United States. Why don’t you think that there are many things that cannot be criticized in the United States that are constraints or backwardness? But when China stipulates that some things cannot be criticized blindly, you think it is constraints or backwards?
Why do you have two sets of standards for the same thing and the same laws and regulations in your minds?The United States and the West are right, and China is backward. What kind of psychology is this? "
Faced with He Fang's doubts, the audience was speechless for the time being, but He Fang did not continue to criticize because it would be meaningless to talk too much.
“Before I came here, I thought this film policy dialogue was to help the General Administration implement some detailed issues, but when I got here I found out that it was a comprehensive criticism of China’s film policy, which I didn’t understand.
In my opinion, both the market size of Chinese films and the industrial infrastructure, technical capabilities, technological level, and modern management of domestic films have been qualitatively improved.
The annual box office market has grown from several billion in 09 to over 14 billion in 500. How can this growth come from if it does not rely on good film policies?In the past, when we went to the cinema to watch movies, what were the seats and the viewing environment like in the cinema?So what now?Does this depend on the development of the market and favorable policies?
In the past, when we made movies, even the cameras were second- and third-generation machines that had been eliminated from Europe and the United States. Now the equipment and special effects companies we use are on par with Hollywood. Isn’t this because of market development and policy changes?
In the past, our theater chain management, false box office reports, fake announcements, talentless and unethical artists, and other industry chaos have now been improved. Isn't this a change in policy?What is this if not modern management?
Therefore, no matter which dimension we look at, we are making progress and changing.However, in this progress and change, literary and artistic films no longer get a share of the cake, and then they jump out and say that policies and systems have hindered their development.
I just want to say, if you don’t keep pace with the times and improve your creativity and technology when making literary and artistic films, why do you blame the constantly improving market and policies?Are you lagging behind? Do you still blame the industry for advancing too fast? "
He Fang's series of rhetorical questions made the others confused about how to answer the question, but Director W, who had just been stunned by anger, clarified his thoughts and immediately asked the question.
"The film development in recent years is only for the development of commercial films. What we mean is that the policy should not only focus on commercial films and forget about literary and artistic films. Commercial films and literary and artistic films are like two legs of a human being. If you only develop one leg, it will be useless. Taking the other leg is not conducive to the overall development of the film.”
"What is the system that governs the development of literary and artistic films? Do you just blame the censorship policy? When commercial films were developed back then, what was the big difference from the current censorship policy? No. Commercial films did not complain about the policy, but practiced their internal skills. "If you tell the movie story well and the quality is good, you can also make a good movie." He Fang retorted.
"No, Director He, don't change the concept secretly. Commercial films rely on commercial elements to make money, while literary and artistic films rely mainly on criticism. If the policy prohibits criticism, how can literary and artistic films develop? This is like not allowing commerce If a movie uses special effects and stars, how can commercial movies develop?" Director W retorted.
"What you mean is that you rely on criticism. If the policy restricts your criticism, you will not be able to survive? Then I would like to ask if my "Solo Zoo" has been criticized? My "Scorching Sun" has been criticized Did you get it? Why did my film not only win the award but also pass domestic censorship?
It is obvious that we can achieve the criticism you mentioned and still pass the censorship. Instead of thinking about making some films that can both pass the censorship and be criticized, you always think about using the policy to make some extreme films.Over the years, take a look at how many of the three major film festivals have won awards for criticizing European regimes?
They themselves don't allow this type of film to win awards, so they will only let you criticize it.Do you really think they are hundreds or thousands of times more perfect than us?The backward monarchy still exists in Europe, but they shout to the whole world every day that everyone is equal and have universal values. Why don't they criticize their unequal aristocracy and monarchy system?Why do they still have a royal family and titles?
Everyone can use their brains to understand that the criticism they advocate is to let countries other than the United States and the West criticize themselves as bad, and then they praise themselves as beautiful, and then you continue to fall into this trap one by one. "
He Fang glanced at everyone with contempt, meaning that you are all brainless people, and you still claim to be sober and elite.
"Director He Fang, since you said that, tell me how we should make a critical literary film?" Director A asked angrily.
"Is it difficult? Didn't I say just now, why not criticize the so-called false Western universal values? Why not criticize the Western monarchy? Why not criticize the Western legal gang system and their legal pornography System. How many young men and girls have been shot dead by gangs and abducted into brothels in the United States and the West over the years? Another example is to criticize the capitalist system. How do capitalists become so wealthy that they only live in the West? A foreigner or an immigrant who acts as a second- or third-class citizen in a foreign country and treats his compatriots in a condescending manner as soon as he returns home...
If you want to criticize, there is a lot of material for criticism, so why don’t you criticize?Why must we insist on criticizing the system?If you don’t criticize the system, it’s not critical, right?
It's like you have rice, corn, and wheat in front of you, but you only know how to eat small wheat. Would you rather starve to death than eat a bite of rice or corn?I have said so much here but only want to say one truth.
That is because you are complaining that the system restricts your criticism. In fact, in the United States and the West, which you think are the most advanced countries, there are also systems that restrict their criticism.This illustrates a problem. It is not just China that has restrictions, but every country has restrictions.
The other thing is, you can criticize if you want to, but it’s not impossible, but don’t insist on criticizing the system. There is a lot of material to criticize besides the system, but I don’t see you criticizing it. "
After He Fang finished speaking, the host didn't know how to answer. At this time, Director Wang slowly picked up the microphone.
"Let me say a few words." Director Wang's words made everyone look at him.
"I agree with Director W's words just now, that is, both literary and commercial aspects of the film must be taken care of. However, I agree more with Director He Fang's words. It's not that we don't take care of literary and artistic films, but that we can't do a lot of what you ask for. arrive.
Our Policy and Regulations Department studies countless laws and regulations in developed countries and countries with excellent film and television development around the world every year. Every year, we hold no less than a hundred seminars on this topic. We are all discussing how to reform and how to make decisions that are conducive to the future development of our films. policy.
As Director Fang said, some laws and regulations cannot be copied because our system is different and cannot be copied.For example, if you insist on moving things from a duck to a chicken, isn't that nondescript?
We can also understand the anxiety, anxiety, and even dissatisfaction of some artistic film directors, but we can't change the system just because we want to solve your dissatisfaction, right?Now that we have talked about this today, I will tell you a few honest words.
As Fang said, if gangster movies are allowed to exist in our movies, then people from the police department will definitely go to the State Administration of Radio, Film and Television to question us.How dissatisfied are we, the filmmakers, with their police departments, and how low do we devalue their work, before we publicize their inaction in society and around the world?
The key is that some of them are based on facts, but many of the stories are fictional. This is an act of maliciously discrediting the police.Tell me, if you are serious about making movies, winning big awards and winning numerous box office successes, but people across the country are constantly criticizing you and insulting you, what do you think you think?
You criticize others for the sake of your own honor, disgrace, and medals without caring about them. What about others?Are the people from the police system going to arrest you regardless?Surely not?So everyone has to follow the rules when doing things.
Like Director He Fang's previous film "Operation Mekong," he also had to follow the rules and apply to the police department to see if he could film it. He could only film it after the police department allowed him to film it.Why apply?
Because China's crime rate is 10 crimes per 15.24 people, compared to 10 crimes per 379.4 people in the United States. China's crime rate is only 4% of that of the United States.However, if we report this crime news every day and make this kind of crime movie, then what we will see on the news and movie screens every year is overwhelming crime, which will make people feel that China's public security is very poor.
But what about the reality?In fact, the security situation in the United States is 250 times worse than ours, so why doesn’t the world think the United States is very dangerous?It is their propaganda media such as news and movies that control the number of reports and prevent everyone from seeing those cases.
This is why we don’t allow you to take pictures of those criminal things every day. It’s not that you can’t take pictures, you can take them, but you have to control the amount and capture typical shots. "
Director Wang is also very sincere, and it is not easy for him, because no one understands their intentions. They only know that scolding them is political correctness. If this continues, what prestige will they have?
Many people in the audience who had not understood before heard what Director Wang said, and finally understood the reason why people are like this in the policy system. It is indeed not the inaction of the people above as everyone thought, but the common people who have done many things. Don't understand.
Why are ordinary people easily incited?That's because they don't understand the actual situation at all, and then they are provoked and said, 'Someone is not doing anything', and then ordinary people follow suit.
(End of this chapter)
The forum of "Opportunities and Challenges: China Film Policy Dialogue" is still going on, but the people present are already in a mess. Of course, there are some people who are very relaxed and happy, such as Director Wang.
He, the director of the Policy and Regulations Department, was initially criticized by the two literary and art directors, and two policy researchers also listed various bad policies, which made him a little ashamed, as if they were blaming them in the Policy and Regulations Department. He has not been involved in human affairs for years and has not done anything practical.
In fact, this is not the case. They study and compare the excellent systems of various countries around the world every day, but they are helpless to find that if they want to copy foreign systems, they will directly deny domestic laws, and some even deny the Supreme Court. Provisions.
How can such a policy be formulated?So many things that Fang said abroad may not necessarily apply to China, which is completely different.
"Some people will still be dissatisfied with what I just said. They will think that foreign countries are open and they are allowed to criticize. I still say the same thing. If you have the ability, go to the United States to criticize capitalism. If you have the ability, go to the United States and criticize their judges' tenure system. Try it. If you have the ability, try to go to the United States to criticize the Jews. If you have the ability, try to go to the United States to criticize homosexuality. If you have the ability, try to go to the United States to criticize marijuana. If you have the ability, try to go to the United Kingdom to criticize the monarchy...
There are many things that cannot be criticized in the United States. Why don’t you think that there are many things that cannot be criticized in the United States that are constraints or backwardness? But when China stipulates that some things cannot be criticized blindly, you think it is constraints or backwards?
Why do you have two sets of standards for the same thing and the same laws and regulations in your minds?The United States and the West are right, and China is backward. What kind of psychology is this? "
Faced with He Fang's doubts, the audience was speechless for the time being, but He Fang did not continue to criticize because it would be meaningless to talk too much.
“Before I came here, I thought this film policy dialogue was to help the General Administration implement some detailed issues, but when I got here I found out that it was a comprehensive criticism of China’s film policy, which I didn’t understand.
In my opinion, both the market size of Chinese films and the industrial infrastructure, technical capabilities, technological level, and modern management of domestic films have been qualitatively improved.
The annual box office market has grown from several billion in 09 to over 14 billion in 500. How can this growth come from if it does not rely on good film policies?In the past, when we went to the cinema to watch movies, what were the seats and the viewing environment like in the cinema?So what now?Does this depend on the development of the market and favorable policies?
In the past, when we made movies, even the cameras were second- and third-generation machines that had been eliminated from Europe and the United States. Now the equipment and special effects companies we use are on par with Hollywood. Isn’t this because of market development and policy changes?
In the past, our theater chain management, false box office reports, fake announcements, talentless and unethical artists, and other industry chaos have now been improved. Isn't this a change in policy?What is this if not modern management?
Therefore, no matter which dimension we look at, we are making progress and changing.However, in this progress and change, literary and artistic films no longer get a share of the cake, and then they jump out and say that policies and systems have hindered their development.
I just want to say, if you don’t keep pace with the times and improve your creativity and technology when making literary and artistic films, why do you blame the constantly improving market and policies?Are you lagging behind? Do you still blame the industry for advancing too fast? "
He Fang's series of rhetorical questions made the others confused about how to answer the question, but Director W, who had just been stunned by anger, clarified his thoughts and immediately asked the question.
"The film development in recent years is only for the development of commercial films. What we mean is that the policy should not only focus on commercial films and forget about literary and artistic films. Commercial films and literary and artistic films are like two legs of a human being. If you only develop one leg, it will be useless. Taking the other leg is not conducive to the overall development of the film.”
"What is the system that governs the development of literary and artistic films? Do you just blame the censorship policy? When commercial films were developed back then, what was the big difference from the current censorship policy? No. Commercial films did not complain about the policy, but practiced their internal skills. "If you tell the movie story well and the quality is good, you can also make a good movie." He Fang retorted.
"No, Director He, don't change the concept secretly. Commercial films rely on commercial elements to make money, while literary and artistic films rely mainly on criticism. If the policy prohibits criticism, how can literary and artistic films develop? This is like not allowing commerce If a movie uses special effects and stars, how can commercial movies develop?" Director W retorted.
"What you mean is that you rely on criticism. If the policy restricts your criticism, you will not be able to survive? Then I would like to ask if my "Solo Zoo" has been criticized? My "Scorching Sun" has been criticized Did you get it? Why did my film not only win the award but also pass domestic censorship?
It is obvious that we can achieve the criticism you mentioned and still pass the censorship. Instead of thinking about making some films that can both pass the censorship and be criticized, you always think about using the policy to make some extreme films.Over the years, take a look at how many of the three major film festivals have won awards for criticizing European regimes?
They themselves don't allow this type of film to win awards, so they will only let you criticize it.Do you really think they are hundreds or thousands of times more perfect than us?The backward monarchy still exists in Europe, but they shout to the whole world every day that everyone is equal and have universal values. Why don't they criticize their unequal aristocracy and monarchy system?Why do they still have a royal family and titles?
Everyone can use their brains to understand that the criticism they advocate is to let countries other than the United States and the West criticize themselves as bad, and then they praise themselves as beautiful, and then you continue to fall into this trap one by one. "
He Fang glanced at everyone with contempt, meaning that you are all brainless people, and you still claim to be sober and elite.
"Director He Fang, since you said that, tell me how we should make a critical literary film?" Director A asked angrily.
"Is it difficult? Didn't I say just now, why not criticize the so-called false Western universal values? Why not criticize the Western monarchy? Why not criticize the Western legal gang system and their legal pornography System. How many young men and girls have been shot dead by gangs and abducted into brothels in the United States and the West over the years? Another example is to criticize the capitalist system. How do capitalists become so wealthy that they only live in the West? A foreigner or an immigrant who acts as a second- or third-class citizen in a foreign country and treats his compatriots in a condescending manner as soon as he returns home...
If you want to criticize, there is a lot of material for criticism, so why don’t you criticize?Why must we insist on criticizing the system?If you don’t criticize the system, it’s not critical, right?
It's like you have rice, corn, and wheat in front of you, but you only know how to eat small wheat. Would you rather starve to death than eat a bite of rice or corn?I have said so much here but only want to say one truth.
That is because you are complaining that the system restricts your criticism. In fact, in the United States and the West, which you think are the most advanced countries, there are also systems that restrict their criticism.This illustrates a problem. It is not just China that has restrictions, but every country has restrictions.
The other thing is, you can criticize if you want to, but it’s not impossible, but don’t insist on criticizing the system. There is a lot of material to criticize besides the system, but I don’t see you criticizing it. "
After He Fang finished speaking, the host didn't know how to answer. At this time, Director Wang slowly picked up the microphone.
"Let me say a few words." Director Wang's words made everyone look at him.
"I agree with Director W's words just now, that is, both literary and commercial aspects of the film must be taken care of. However, I agree more with Director He Fang's words. It's not that we don't take care of literary and artistic films, but that we can't do a lot of what you ask for. arrive.
Our Policy and Regulations Department studies countless laws and regulations in developed countries and countries with excellent film and television development around the world every year. Every year, we hold no less than a hundred seminars on this topic. We are all discussing how to reform and how to make decisions that are conducive to the future development of our films. policy.
As Director Fang said, some laws and regulations cannot be copied because our system is different and cannot be copied.For example, if you insist on moving things from a duck to a chicken, isn't that nondescript?
We can also understand the anxiety, anxiety, and even dissatisfaction of some artistic film directors, but we can't change the system just because we want to solve your dissatisfaction, right?Now that we have talked about this today, I will tell you a few honest words.
As Fang said, if gangster movies are allowed to exist in our movies, then people from the police department will definitely go to the State Administration of Radio, Film and Television to question us.How dissatisfied are we, the filmmakers, with their police departments, and how low do we devalue their work, before we publicize their inaction in society and around the world?
The key is that some of them are based on facts, but many of the stories are fictional. This is an act of maliciously discrediting the police.Tell me, if you are serious about making movies, winning big awards and winning numerous box office successes, but people across the country are constantly criticizing you and insulting you, what do you think you think?
You criticize others for the sake of your own honor, disgrace, and medals without caring about them. What about others?Are the people from the police system going to arrest you regardless?Surely not?So everyone has to follow the rules when doing things.
Like Director He Fang's previous film "Operation Mekong," he also had to follow the rules and apply to the police department to see if he could film it. He could only film it after the police department allowed him to film it.Why apply?
Because China's crime rate is 10 crimes per 15.24 people, compared to 10 crimes per 379.4 people in the United States. China's crime rate is only 4% of that of the United States.However, if we report this crime news every day and make this kind of crime movie, then what we will see on the news and movie screens every year is overwhelming crime, which will make people feel that China's public security is very poor.
But what about the reality?In fact, the security situation in the United States is 250 times worse than ours, so why doesn’t the world think the United States is very dangerous?It is their propaganda media such as news and movies that control the number of reports and prevent everyone from seeing those cases.
This is why we don’t allow you to take pictures of those criminal things every day. It’s not that you can’t take pictures, you can take them, but you have to control the amount and capture typical shots. "
Director Wang is also very sincere, and it is not easy for him, because no one understands their intentions. They only know that scolding them is political correctness. If this continues, what prestige will they have?
Many people in the audience who had not understood before heard what Director Wang said, and finally understood the reason why people are like this in the policy system. It is indeed not the inaction of the people above as everyone thought, but the common people who have done many things. Don't understand.
Why are ordinary people easily incited?That's because they don't understand the actual situation at all, and then they are provoked and said, 'Someone is not doing anything', and then ordinary people follow suit.
(End of this chapter)
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