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Chapter 141 Iron Blood or Huairou
Chapter 141 Iron Blood or Huairou (Two in One)
Emperor Se the Great did not answer immediately, but threw the question to Yusuf Pasha.
Selim said with a smile.
"Grand Vizier, you are about to retire, why don't you stand on the last post for the empire and think of a solution to this matter."
Yusuf Pasha's old face twitched. He didn't know why, but he felt like he wanted to hide his face and cry.
They're all about to retire, and they were pulled out by Sudan to be this villain, co-authoring to squeeze out the last bit of use value, right?
"Your Majesty, I don't think it is necessary to do what Haji Pasha said.
There is a big difference between Kurds and Mamluks.
Of course, this is also related to geographical location and development potential.
Egypt, controlled by the Mamluks, can go south along the Nile River and go deep into Africa. It is said that their south is a fertile land that can be used as a granary. The leader of the rebels suppressed by Hassan Pasha once went south Pioneering ideas.
And Egypt itself has huge potential. The governance capabilities of the Mamluks are simply horrible. Under their governance, Cairo has long since lost the prosperity of the Alexander and Roman era.
However, the potential of Lower Egypt cannot be ignored. It is one of the most superior cities in North Africa, and other strongholds of the empire in North Africa, such as Tripoli and Tunisia, cannot be compared with it at all.
The second is geographical location. The difference between Egypt and the Kurdish region is that Egypt has almost no external pressure, while the Kurdish region faces the threat of Persia, which makes the Kurdish region more dependent on the empire than Egypt.
In this case, the Kurds are much more docile than the Mamluks. "
Looking at Sultan's unchanged face, Haji Pasha's faint sarcasm and Ishak Pasha's appearance of staying out of the matter.
Yusuf Pasha continued.
"Of course, these are not enough reasons to pardon the crimes of the Kurds. The most critical issue is actually the fundamental difference between the Kurds and the Mamluks.
The Mamluks oppressed the Egyptian people under their rule in almost every part of their lives. This is why Your Majesty decided to send Haji Pasha to deal with the Mamluks by force, and I never objected.
But the Kurds are different. The rulers of these Kurdish Emirs have a strong appeal to their subjects.
Once you choose to deal with them in the same way as you deal with the Mamluks, what the empire gains in the Kurdish area is by no means peace and stability, but endless rebellion.
That's why I don't agree with Haji Pasha's method, violence against Kurds will only return the same violence. "
Haji Pasha said at this moment.
"Yousuf Pasha, you don't need to be alarmist, the Kurdish rulers are indeed stronger than the Mamluks, but how much stronger?
Their life is no less luxurious than that of the high-ranking officials in Constantinier. Your argument is not convincing. "
Yusuf Pasha, who had always been a harmonious person, did not have much prestige. At this time, his proposal was clearly rejected by Haji Pasha, but he had almost no choice.
Haji Pasha wiped out the Mamluks, took charge of Egypt, and has almost been designated as his successor by default. Ishak Pasha will never oppose him, and His Majesty's attitude is also unpredictable.
Under such circumstances, the only thing Yusuf can do is to pray that His Majesty will finally choose his plan. After all, Haji Pasha has never dealt with the Kurds, so it is normal to make such a judgment.
But Yusuf was different. He had contact with this group of Kurds. If His Majesty chose Haji Pasha's plan aggressively, it would probably lead to the energy of the empire being dragged down, which he did not want to see.
After much consideration, Se the Great finally decided to follow Yusuf Pasha's method. Blindly using this method will eventually have a bad impact on the imperial government.
However, Muhammad Ali signaled to Sai the Great at this time, as if he wanted to speak.
Selim waved his hand.
"Speak, Muhammad Ali, express your opinion. After all, you are the leader of the Sipahi cavalry in Syria. No matter how you solve it, you must go."
Muhammad Ali glanced at Haji Pasha apologetically, and then said.
"Your Majesty, I also agree with Yusuf Pasha's thoughts. He is right. We really cannot solve the Kurds in the same way as the Mamluks.
This is indeed detrimental to the rule of the empire in the Kurdish region”
Muhammad Ali said seriously.
He has seen the power of the Kurds in these areas. If he is so aggressive, it will be difficult to end well.
Seeing this, Isaac Pasha said immediately.
"Your Majesty, I also think that Haji Pasha's method is not suitable for solving the Kurdish issue.
One of the purposes of this great expedition is to threaten the Qajar dynasty on the Iranian plateau, forcing them to spend more energy on us and delaying their process of unifying Persia.
But the attention we can attract is limited after all. The blocking of the Zagros Mountains and the inherent advantages of the Iranian plateau make our power projection limited after all.
If the empire invests regardless of losses, of course it can also threaten the opponent, but this is contrary to your wishes.
And we have a more efficient and less investment way at this time, which is the Kurds. "
After listening to Isaac Pasha's words, Emperor Sai suddenly had a thought, and he said immediately.
"Go on, Isaac, and explain your method."
Isaac Pasha laughed.
"In that case, let me show off my shallow knowledge in front of His Majesty and all of you."
Isaac Pasha waved his hand, and the guards on the side immediately sent a map.
Isaac Pasha pointed to the map and said.
"As you can see, the Kurdish agglomeration area does not only exist in the empire, the Qajar dynasty also has these Kurds.
There is no need for us to massacre the Kurdish leaders, it will only allow the Qajars to use these Kurds against us.
The eunuch of Qajar is not an easy person to deal with.
So my idea is that instead of "killing", we should "please". "
"Kill and please, it's interesting, let's continue."
Selim continued.
"For this "please", we naturally have to be courteous before guests. Muhammad Ali Pasha has Sipahi cavalry in Syria. Your Majesty, you will lead the army from Constantiniya to the Arabian Peninsula.
Under such circumstances, what sense of crisis can the Kurds have?
They never thought that the empire would also target them this time.
At that time, Your Majesty, you may first hold a banquet to gather these Kurdish emirs together.
Then directly state your conditions. As for how to do it, this is not something I should consider. Maybe you already have the answer in your heart, Your Majesty. "
Selim didn't answer directly. He roughly guessed Isaac Pasha's thoughts. He probably wanted to take this opportunity to bring these emirs back to Constantiniya, and then take over these emir countries.
However, this did not maximize the benefits at all, and Emperor Sai came up with a better strategy-Tweeting Order.
This Tweeting Token is not the other Tweeting Token. The things used by Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty are really good, but they still need to be improved.
As for how to improve, Emperor Sai already had a general idea at this time.
The first is the Bedouin expedition this time. If the supply this time is carried out according to the old method of the empire, part of it is transported from Constantiniya and part of it is collected locally, the consumption will definitely be great.
That being the case, why not ask the Kurds directly?
This time, it is impossible to solve the Bedouins only by Se the Great.
One is that the supply pressure is too high, and the other is that it is unrealistic.
There is only one way to completely deal with the Bedouin, which is to give him a complete blow.
For this reason, Selim planned to send troops in three directions.
One is the army he brought with him, starting from Constantiniya, passing through the Kurdish region, to Baghdad, and oppressing the Bedouins from the north.
The second was a large army led by Muhammad Ali, which set out from Damascus and oppressed the Bedouin from the west.
The third is to send troops from Egypt to oppress the Bedouin from the south. As for the commander of this route, the emperor has not yet decided whether to use Alandar Mustafa or Hussein.
With a three-way flanking attack, the Bedouin had no choice but to go east, but he could try a field battle, as long as he really dared.
The problem is that Oman lies to the east of the Bedouins. At that time, Oman can help to eliminate them first, and then destroy Oman's army in one battle.
Oman belongs to the Ottoman Empire in name. As for the essence, Se the Great does not want to be beaten by the British. As for how to solve Oman’s colonies (Oman does have colonies, and they are veterans of the East African labor tool trade), it is estimated at that time Have to discuss it with the British.
With such a long front, Muhammad Ali can get supplies from Syria, and the Egyptian army can also draw supplies from Lower Egypt. Emperor Se the Great, based on the idea that no one can suffer himself, naturally had to use supplies from the Kurdish area.
As for the specific operation, the leaders of the Kurds can definitely be placed under house arrest, but their heirs must become tools used by the Sudan to control the Kurdish region.
When the time comes, let these Kurdish leaders announce their abdication and pass it on to their heirs.
But Emperor Sai would definitely not let the other party's heir succeed so easily.
These emirs may have more than one heir. At that time, Emperor Se the Great cannot bear to see that some Kurdish young heroes do not have their own territory and speak out for justice.
The original heir can get the biggest and best piece, and the other brothers can get a little bit.
Shouldn’t these brothers who have been assigned to the territory thank the great sultan? If you thank the sultan, shouldn’t you contribute to the Bedouins in Sudan? Shouldn’t you provide both troops and supplies to the Bedouins in Sudan? ?
All of this is simply logical and reasonable. No matter from which angle, Emperor Sai can't see any problem.
As for the heir who gets the largest and best territory, although it is common sense that the other party should get all the territories, but brothers should be friendly, since they have divided their brothers' territories, shouldn't they be happy about it? I am happy for this, shouldn't I thank the Sudan, thank the Sudan, shouldn't I do something for the Sudan.
Out of some guilt in his heart, Emperor Sai would not ask them to send food, but it was still necessary to send troops, after all, it was a tradition.
Since these heirs don't have to pay for food compared to their brothers, it is always right to do the sultan a favor.
Just use the relationship of these Kurds to instigate it, and then create some troubles for the Qajar dynasty, so that he is busy. If these Kurds are still fighting for their spirits, Emperor Se the Great does not mind giving some assistance to let them build a country.
How could the great Kurdish nation succumb to the evil rule of the Qajar dynasty!
This kind of oppression is unjust, inappropriate, should be changed, and should be helped by civilized countries.
The great Kurdish nation should be liberated, and their spirit of pursuing freedom and independence is worthy of recognition.
As a member of the Sunni sect, the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire would never allow these believers who were also Sunni sects to be oppressed by the heretical Shiite Qajar dynasty.
You said that there were Kurds in the Ottoman Empire, why not let them establish their own country.
This is simply nonsense. There are no Kurds in the Ottoman Empire. To borrow the words of later Kemal, there are no Kurds here. They are obviously mountain Turks.
You said he doesn’t know Turkish, so what’s the matter? Didn’t you say he’s a mountain Turk?
After thinking about it for a while, Emperor Sai had already convinced himself morally, psychologically, and logically.
At this time, Haji Pasha's face was a little ugly. From the expression of the Sudan, he could conclude that the Sudan must have been persuaded by Yusuf Pasha.
After a while, Selim spoke.
"Dear Haji Pasha, let's put aside the issue of the Kurds. I wonder what you think about Oman's handling?"
"Oman? Your Majesty, I don't think Oman should be impatient. Oman has the support of the British behind it. It is not wise to rashly try to annex them.
It seems to me that we might try to nominally bring them under our rule.
Oman's navy is very good, at least our Persian Gulf Fleet and Red Sea Fleet combined cannot compare to each other.
This is due to their excellent shipbuilding and sailors.
These two are exactly what the empire lacks. Through nominal surrender, we can ask the other party to share naval resources with us.
As for how to make the other party submit to the rule of the empire in name, as the caliph of the Islamic world, you should have the right to rule Oman.
Of course, this kind of nominal dominion cannot make Oman surrender, so we have to do a battle with the opponent's army. It is best to completely destroy the opponent's land force, and then take the opportunity to take Muscat .
After weakening the other party and giving us an absolute advantage, we can then negotiate with the other party. "
Haji Pasha said sternly that he had to save some face by the way he dealt with Aman.
(End of this chapter)
Emperor Se the Great did not answer immediately, but threw the question to Yusuf Pasha.
Selim said with a smile.
"Grand Vizier, you are about to retire, why don't you stand on the last post for the empire and think of a solution to this matter."
Yusuf Pasha's old face twitched. He didn't know why, but he felt like he wanted to hide his face and cry.
They're all about to retire, and they were pulled out by Sudan to be this villain, co-authoring to squeeze out the last bit of use value, right?
"Your Majesty, I don't think it is necessary to do what Haji Pasha said.
There is a big difference between Kurds and Mamluks.
Of course, this is also related to geographical location and development potential.
Egypt, controlled by the Mamluks, can go south along the Nile River and go deep into Africa. It is said that their south is a fertile land that can be used as a granary. The leader of the rebels suppressed by Hassan Pasha once went south Pioneering ideas.
And Egypt itself has huge potential. The governance capabilities of the Mamluks are simply horrible. Under their governance, Cairo has long since lost the prosperity of the Alexander and Roman era.
However, the potential of Lower Egypt cannot be ignored. It is one of the most superior cities in North Africa, and other strongholds of the empire in North Africa, such as Tripoli and Tunisia, cannot be compared with it at all.
The second is geographical location. The difference between Egypt and the Kurdish region is that Egypt has almost no external pressure, while the Kurdish region faces the threat of Persia, which makes the Kurdish region more dependent on the empire than Egypt.
In this case, the Kurds are much more docile than the Mamluks. "
Looking at Sultan's unchanged face, Haji Pasha's faint sarcasm and Ishak Pasha's appearance of staying out of the matter.
Yusuf Pasha continued.
"Of course, these are not enough reasons to pardon the crimes of the Kurds. The most critical issue is actually the fundamental difference between the Kurds and the Mamluks.
The Mamluks oppressed the Egyptian people under their rule in almost every part of their lives. This is why Your Majesty decided to send Haji Pasha to deal with the Mamluks by force, and I never objected.
But the Kurds are different. The rulers of these Kurdish Emirs have a strong appeal to their subjects.
Once you choose to deal with them in the same way as you deal with the Mamluks, what the empire gains in the Kurdish area is by no means peace and stability, but endless rebellion.
That's why I don't agree with Haji Pasha's method, violence against Kurds will only return the same violence. "
Haji Pasha said at this moment.
"Yousuf Pasha, you don't need to be alarmist, the Kurdish rulers are indeed stronger than the Mamluks, but how much stronger?
Their life is no less luxurious than that of the high-ranking officials in Constantinier. Your argument is not convincing. "
Yusuf Pasha, who had always been a harmonious person, did not have much prestige. At this time, his proposal was clearly rejected by Haji Pasha, but he had almost no choice.
Haji Pasha wiped out the Mamluks, took charge of Egypt, and has almost been designated as his successor by default. Ishak Pasha will never oppose him, and His Majesty's attitude is also unpredictable.
Under such circumstances, the only thing Yusuf can do is to pray that His Majesty will finally choose his plan. After all, Haji Pasha has never dealt with the Kurds, so it is normal to make such a judgment.
But Yusuf was different. He had contact with this group of Kurds. If His Majesty chose Haji Pasha's plan aggressively, it would probably lead to the energy of the empire being dragged down, which he did not want to see.
After much consideration, Se the Great finally decided to follow Yusuf Pasha's method. Blindly using this method will eventually have a bad impact on the imperial government.
However, Muhammad Ali signaled to Sai the Great at this time, as if he wanted to speak.
Selim waved his hand.
"Speak, Muhammad Ali, express your opinion. After all, you are the leader of the Sipahi cavalry in Syria. No matter how you solve it, you must go."
Muhammad Ali glanced at Haji Pasha apologetically, and then said.
"Your Majesty, I also agree with Yusuf Pasha's thoughts. He is right. We really cannot solve the Kurds in the same way as the Mamluks.
This is indeed detrimental to the rule of the empire in the Kurdish region”
Muhammad Ali said seriously.
He has seen the power of the Kurds in these areas. If he is so aggressive, it will be difficult to end well.
Seeing this, Isaac Pasha said immediately.
"Your Majesty, I also think that Haji Pasha's method is not suitable for solving the Kurdish issue.
One of the purposes of this great expedition is to threaten the Qajar dynasty on the Iranian plateau, forcing them to spend more energy on us and delaying their process of unifying Persia.
But the attention we can attract is limited after all. The blocking of the Zagros Mountains and the inherent advantages of the Iranian plateau make our power projection limited after all.
If the empire invests regardless of losses, of course it can also threaten the opponent, but this is contrary to your wishes.
And we have a more efficient and less investment way at this time, which is the Kurds. "
After listening to Isaac Pasha's words, Emperor Sai suddenly had a thought, and he said immediately.
"Go on, Isaac, and explain your method."
Isaac Pasha laughed.
"In that case, let me show off my shallow knowledge in front of His Majesty and all of you."
Isaac Pasha waved his hand, and the guards on the side immediately sent a map.
Isaac Pasha pointed to the map and said.
"As you can see, the Kurdish agglomeration area does not only exist in the empire, the Qajar dynasty also has these Kurds.
There is no need for us to massacre the Kurdish leaders, it will only allow the Qajars to use these Kurds against us.
The eunuch of Qajar is not an easy person to deal with.
So my idea is that instead of "killing", we should "please". "
"Kill and please, it's interesting, let's continue."
Selim continued.
"For this "please", we naturally have to be courteous before guests. Muhammad Ali Pasha has Sipahi cavalry in Syria. Your Majesty, you will lead the army from Constantiniya to the Arabian Peninsula.
Under such circumstances, what sense of crisis can the Kurds have?
They never thought that the empire would also target them this time.
At that time, Your Majesty, you may first hold a banquet to gather these Kurdish emirs together.
Then directly state your conditions. As for how to do it, this is not something I should consider. Maybe you already have the answer in your heart, Your Majesty. "
Selim didn't answer directly. He roughly guessed Isaac Pasha's thoughts. He probably wanted to take this opportunity to bring these emirs back to Constantiniya, and then take over these emir countries.
However, this did not maximize the benefits at all, and Emperor Sai came up with a better strategy-Tweeting Order.
This Tweeting Token is not the other Tweeting Token. The things used by Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty are really good, but they still need to be improved.
As for how to improve, Emperor Sai already had a general idea at this time.
The first is the Bedouin expedition this time. If the supply this time is carried out according to the old method of the empire, part of it is transported from Constantiniya and part of it is collected locally, the consumption will definitely be great.
That being the case, why not ask the Kurds directly?
This time, it is impossible to solve the Bedouins only by Se the Great.
One is that the supply pressure is too high, and the other is that it is unrealistic.
There is only one way to completely deal with the Bedouin, which is to give him a complete blow.
For this reason, Selim planned to send troops in three directions.
One is the army he brought with him, starting from Constantiniya, passing through the Kurdish region, to Baghdad, and oppressing the Bedouins from the north.
The second was a large army led by Muhammad Ali, which set out from Damascus and oppressed the Bedouin from the west.
The third is to send troops from Egypt to oppress the Bedouin from the south. As for the commander of this route, the emperor has not yet decided whether to use Alandar Mustafa or Hussein.
With a three-way flanking attack, the Bedouin had no choice but to go east, but he could try a field battle, as long as he really dared.
The problem is that Oman lies to the east of the Bedouins. At that time, Oman can help to eliminate them first, and then destroy Oman's army in one battle.
Oman belongs to the Ottoman Empire in name. As for the essence, Se the Great does not want to be beaten by the British. As for how to solve Oman’s colonies (Oman does have colonies, and they are veterans of the East African labor tool trade), it is estimated at that time Have to discuss it with the British.
With such a long front, Muhammad Ali can get supplies from Syria, and the Egyptian army can also draw supplies from Lower Egypt. Emperor Se the Great, based on the idea that no one can suffer himself, naturally had to use supplies from the Kurdish area.
As for the specific operation, the leaders of the Kurds can definitely be placed under house arrest, but their heirs must become tools used by the Sudan to control the Kurdish region.
When the time comes, let these Kurdish leaders announce their abdication and pass it on to their heirs.
But Emperor Sai would definitely not let the other party's heir succeed so easily.
These emirs may have more than one heir. At that time, Emperor Se the Great cannot bear to see that some Kurdish young heroes do not have their own territory and speak out for justice.
The original heir can get the biggest and best piece, and the other brothers can get a little bit.
Shouldn’t these brothers who have been assigned to the territory thank the great sultan? If you thank the sultan, shouldn’t you contribute to the Bedouins in Sudan? Shouldn’t you provide both troops and supplies to the Bedouins in Sudan? ?
All of this is simply logical and reasonable. No matter from which angle, Emperor Sai can't see any problem.
As for the heir who gets the largest and best territory, although it is common sense that the other party should get all the territories, but brothers should be friendly, since they have divided their brothers' territories, shouldn't they be happy about it? I am happy for this, shouldn't I thank the Sudan, thank the Sudan, shouldn't I do something for the Sudan.
Out of some guilt in his heart, Emperor Sai would not ask them to send food, but it was still necessary to send troops, after all, it was a tradition.
Since these heirs don't have to pay for food compared to their brothers, it is always right to do the sultan a favor.
Just use the relationship of these Kurds to instigate it, and then create some troubles for the Qajar dynasty, so that he is busy. If these Kurds are still fighting for their spirits, Emperor Se the Great does not mind giving some assistance to let them build a country.
How could the great Kurdish nation succumb to the evil rule of the Qajar dynasty!
This kind of oppression is unjust, inappropriate, should be changed, and should be helped by civilized countries.
The great Kurdish nation should be liberated, and their spirit of pursuing freedom and independence is worthy of recognition.
As a member of the Sunni sect, the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire would never allow these believers who were also Sunni sects to be oppressed by the heretical Shiite Qajar dynasty.
You said that there were Kurds in the Ottoman Empire, why not let them establish their own country.
This is simply nonsense. There are no Kurds in the Ottoman Empire. To borrow the words of later Kemal, there are no Kurds here. They are obviously mountain Turks.
You said he doesn’t know Turkish, so what’s the matter? Didn’t you say he’s a mountain Turk?
After thinking about it for a while, Emperor Sai had already convinced himself morally, psychologically, and logically.
At this time, Haji Pasha's face was a little ugly. From the expression of the Sudan, he could conclude that the Sudan must have been persuaded by Yusuf Pasha.
After a while, Selim spoke.
"Dear Haji Pasha, let's put aside the issue of the Kurds. I wonder what you think about Oman's handling?"
"Oman? Your Majesty, I don't think Oman should be impatient. Oman has the support of the British behind it. It is not wise to rashly try to annex them.
It seems to me that we might try to nominally bring them under our rule.
Oman's navy is very good, at least our Persian Gulf Fleet and Red Sea Fleet combined cannot compare to each other.
This is due to their excellent shipbuilding and sailors.
These two are exactly what the empire lacks. Through nominal surrender, we can ask the other party to share naval resources with us.
As for how to make the other party submit to the rule of the empire in name, as the caliph of the Islamic world, you should have the right to rule Oman.
Of course, this kind of nominal dominion cannot make Oman surrender, so we have to do a battle with the opponent's army. It is best to completely destroy the opponent's land force, and then take the opportunity to take Muscat .
After weakening the other party and giving us an absolute advantage, we can then negotiate with the other party. "
Haji Pasha said sternly that he had to save some face by the way he dealt with Aman.
(End of this chapter)
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