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Chapter 650 The All-Greek Scholars Conference is held
Chapter 650 The All-Greek Scholars Conference is held
"If the rulers of the city-state can continue to learn through continuous practice instead of indulging in physical enjoyment. They can treat the people of the city-state with kindness, be able to discover the essence of things with keen vision, and formulate effective policies. The laws about beauty, justice and goodness that are beneficial to the citizens of the city-state, and guide the people to abide by it and guard it...then of course they are philosophers, there is no doubt about it!" Plato said firmly.
Davos knew that Plato had expanded the concept of philosophers, but he felt that there was no need to refute it directly. Instead, he turned to other questions: "In the book "The Republic", do you think that a true philosopher should have love?" True but not false, temperate but not greedy for pleasure, broad-minded and generous, courageous and not afraid of death, fair and virtuous, smart and studious, naturally harmonious, with a measure of progress and retreat... In other words, he should be a perfect good person, Only such philosophers can become real rulers, right?"
"Yes, that's basically the case." Plato said calmly, and then added: "But it is difficult to achieve it now."
"Why is it so difficult to achieve now?" Davos asked.
"Because the current city-state does not give philosophers a stage to display their talents in governing the country!" Plato replied slightly excitedly: "Some so-called 'wise men' only know how to please and cater to the people in city-state citizens' assemblies, and attack the real pursuit of things. True philosophers, because truth is always more difficult for the people to accept than falsehood, so philosophers are not welcomed by the people of the city-state. And the harsh environment of the city-state attracts talented young people, making them ambitious, and would rather go to He learns to use rhetoric to cater to the people and earn power and wealth, rather than going through the hard training of a slave to gain rationality.
As a result, there are fewer and fewer true philosophers, just like falling into a herd of wild beasts. They are neither willing to participate in evil nor can they fight against all the wild beasts independently, so they have to remain silent and only mind their own affairs..."
"So you wrote "Utopia", but in fact it does not exist in reality." Davos realized something.
"No, it will exist one day!" Plato said with firm eyes: "For this reason, I established the Akademi Academy!..."
Davos was shocked by Plato's words. Looking at this philosopher who was called "the great" in his previous life, Davos deeply felt his determination to fight for his ideas throughout his life. This reminded him of his previous life. Another sage who was almost of the same era as Plato and has influenced China for more than 2000 years. They are both the same type of people, so they can achieve greatness.
Thinking of this, Davos no longer made things difficult for him about the shortcomings in the book "Utopia", but asked for advice in a calm voice: "In the book "Utopia", you mentioned 'strict social division of labor'. It is the first principle for the establishment of an ideal city-state. Rulers, guardians, farmers, and craftsmen each perform their duties to ensure that the country is in order and everyone is happy and happy...' However, slaves and foreigners, who account for the majority of the population in the city-state, You don't seem to be taking them into account, which may be a big risk.
Because slaves and foreigners also have their own political demands, once the city-state cannot grant them, they will definitely cause great damage to the order of the city-state.During the Peloponnesian War, Athens, which was supposed to be united against foreign enemies, suffered a major blow to its people because of the defection of more than 2 miner slaves; Syracuse under the rule of Dionysius When fighting our Dionia, the free people of the port of Syracuse, who had always suffered discrimination, became the main force in rioting and overthrowing the rule of Dionysius...
In addition, if you divide the people of the city-state into several classes, farmers can only engage in agriculture, craftsmen can only engage in handicrafts, and guardians can only participate in war... Isn't such a division too idealistic, but also too Too rigid.Because most people have the desire to obtain a better city-state status, farmers and craftsmen may also want to become guardians, and guardians also want to become rulers. Regardless of whether they can do it or not, you should give them this possibility in advance. Through this way, different classes in the entire city-state can maintain a kind of mobility, and then the people of the city-state will be full of vitality.Don’t you want to know the reason why Dionia is so powerful? This is one of the reasons! "
……
Davos and Plato exchanged their opinions and views on the city-state system with each other. Sometimes they had fierce arguments and sometimes they had calm discussions. Both of them were very involved.
Unknowingly, half an hour passed in a blink of an eye. It was not until Clerk Henipolis reminded him that Davos had to stop communicating and apologized to Plato: He still had important things to do next. The conversation can only end here.
Plato looked regretful. He had indeed benefited a lot from this conversation, from being careless when he was first interviewed to being fully engaged now.
At this moment, he sincerely asked: "Your Majesty Davos, can you promise me a request?"
"Please speak."
"Can you allow me to visit the actual operations of various institutions under the Kingdom of Dionia, like the schools you just mentioned, the Inspection Department, the Construction Department, and the Official Management Committee that evaluates and recruits public officials..."
"Of course there is no problem." Davos readily agreed, and said: "This is my secretary Henipolis, the elder of the Dionysian Senate. When Plato finishes your speech in the academy, he will lead you Visit various places in Turii.”
Plato immediately expressed his gratitude.
After he left, Henipolis asked doubtfully: "Your Majesty, do you really want Plato to take a closer look at our administrative agencies?"
"Of course. Plato is a well-known scholar throughout Greece, and he also has his own academy. I am hoping that he will promote the superiority of the political system of my Kingdom of Dionia in mainland Greece and make Dionia famous." Davos said without thinking said.
"But this may allow other city-states to steal our system." Henipolis said with a slight worry.
Davos laughed: "Henny, you can learn secretly how to make a weapon and equipment, you can learn how to make a handicraft secretly, but it is difficult to learn secretly how to make a political system, especially for those city-states that have been established for a long time. The traditional and conservative forces are numerous and powerful. If they want to change the political system, their interests will inevitably be harmed. A bloody riot will be inevitable. Herolis of Syracuse is an example! So, what kind of No matter what kind of shoes a person wears, it is not allowed to act haphazardly..."
.......................................
The All-Greek Scholars Conference does not have a formal opening ceremony. This is because scholars advocate freedom and do not like to waste time sitting there and listening to people talking. However, how to coordinate the lectures and discussion time of invited scholars is a troublesome thing. question.
This time, the meeting was mainly held in four places in Dionia Academy, namely the School of Mathematics, the School of Liberal Arts, the School of Medicine and the School of Philosophy.Many of the invited scholars have made achievements in multiple fields. For example, Democritus' disciple Thainstrian studied philosophy, mathematics, and medicine; Lysis, as an important figure in the Pythagorean school, Not only does he have deep research in mathematics and physics, but he also has his own unique philosophical concepts... These colleges all want scholars to come to their side to explain it first, so they argue endlessly.
Fortunately, Davos also served as the organizing chairman of this conference. He brought the deans of the four colleges together, and after repeated discussions, the schedule was quickly formulated.
Plato's students came to the Dionysian Academy and found that, as Foster Kada said, the area of the academy, the number of buildings, and the beautiful environment were indeed far greater than those of the Akademi Academy. This made their They felt a little disappointed, but soon they became immersed in all kinds of profound and profound knowledge.
They frequently shuttle between colleges and listen to lectures by scholars.
In the Faculty of Arts, they listened to Lysias's "The Application of Logic in Court Arguments" and Isocrates's "How to Shape Your Speech";
In the School of Mathematics, they thought about Mattiklis's "Discussion on the Regularity of the Vibration Curves of Matter" and Mentortic Els's "Primary Theory of Probability" (which Davers has commissioned from the School of Mathematics for the past six or seven years. Calculation of odds in similar competitions, a knowledge discovered and summarized by the School of Mathematics.);
In the Academy of Philosophy, they had to carefully distinguish between Lysis's philosophy on the "number of all things" and Androsthenes's On the Being of Things (he was a student of the Parmenides of Elea). What are the similarities and differences between the philosophy taught by Mr. Plato and the vice president of the School of Philosophy of Dionia Academy;
In medical school, they watched with wide eyes as Helps described and demonstrated the functions of the heart, Stacey Kordas's "A Preliminary Study on the Pathogenesis of Common Human Diseases - Colds", and Hippocrates' "Obey Nature" "The medical point of view (that is, the human body itself is the best medicine to resist disease, and the doctor's main responsibility is to stand on the side of nature and promote the physical and mental recovery of patients)...
While Spesippus and the others were studying and absorbing knowledge, they also met many young talents. Most of them were students of the Dionysian Academy. They were all confident, generous, diligent and studious. He used papyrus to record key points and actively asked questions. He even stumped the speaker many times because of his profound questions.
After coming down, these Dionia Academy students still had heated discussions, and Spisippus and the others also joined in, but they often couldn't keep up with their quick thinking because they lacked richer knowledge.In fact, this is understandable. There is only one teacher in Akademi Academy. Although Plato is knowledgeable, he cannot have in-depth research in all fields. However, there are many teachers in Dionysia Academy, most of whom are well-known scholars, and allow students from various majors to observe and communicate with each other.
Thanks to Evil Moon Comet for the reward!Your support is my biggest motivation for writing! !
(End of this chapter)
"If the rulers of the city-state can continue to learn through continuous practice instead of indulging in physical enjoyment. They can treat the people of the city-state with kindness, be able to discover the essence of things with keen vision, and formulate effective policies. The laws about beauty, justice and goodness that are beneficial to the citizens of the city-state, and guide the people to abide by it and guard it...then of course they are philosophers, there is no doubt about it!" Plato said firmly.
Davos knew that Plato had expanded the concept of philosophers, but he felt that there was no need to refute it directly. Instead, he turned to other questions: "In the book "The Republic", do you think that a true philosopher should have love?" True but not false, temperate but not greedy for pleasure, broad-minded and generous, courageous and not afraid of death, fair and virtuous, smart and studious, naturally harmonious, with a measure of progress and retreat... In other words, he should be a perfect good person, Only such philosophers can become real rulers, right?"
"Yes, that's basically the case." Plato said calmly, and then added: "But it is difficult to achieve it now."
"Why is it so difficult to achieve now?" Davos asked.
"Because the current city-state does not give philosophers a stage to display their talents in governing the country!" Plato replied slightly excitedly: "Some so-called 'wise men' only know how to please and cater to the people in city-state citizens' assemblies, and attack the real pursuit of things. True philosophers, because truth is always more difficult for the people to accept than falsehood, so philosophers are not welcomed by the people of the city-state. And the harsh environment of the city-state attracts talented young people, making them ambitious, and would rather go to He learns to use rhetoric to cater to the people and earn power and wealth, rather than going through the hard training of a slave to gain rationality.
As a result, there are fewer and fewer true philosophers, just like falling into a herd of wild beasts. They are neither willing to participate in evil nor can they fight against all the wild beasts independently, so they have to remain silent and only mind their own affairs..."
"So you wrote "Utopia", but in fact it does not exist in reality." Davos realized something.
"No, it will exist one day!" Plato said with firm eyes: "For this reason, I established the Akademi Academy!..."
Davos was shocked by Plato's words. Looking at this philosopher who was called "the great" in his previous life, Davos deeply felt his determination to fight for his ideas throughout his life. This reminded him of his previous life. Another sage who was almost of the same era as Plato and has influenced China for more than 2000 years. They are both the same type of people, so they can achieve greatness.
Thinking of this, Davos no longer made things difficult for him about the shortcomings in the book "Utopia", but asked for advice in a calm voice: "In the book "Utopia", you mentioned 'strict social division of labor'. It is the first principle for the establishment of an ideal city-state. Rulers, guardians, farmers, and craftsmen each perform their duties to ensure that the country is in order and everyone is happy and happy...' However, slaves and foreigners, who account for the majority of the population in the city-state, You don't seem to be taking them into account, which may be a big risk.
Because slaves and foreigners also have their own political demands, once the city-state cannot grant them, they will definitely cause great damage to the order of the city-state.During the Peloponnesian War, Athens, which was supposed to be united against foreign enemies, suffered a major blow to its people because of the defection of more than 2 miner slaves; Syracuse under the rule of Dionysius When fighting our Dionia, the free people of the port of Syracuse, who had always suffered discrimination, became the main force in rioting and overthrowing the rule of Dionysius...
In addition, if you divide the people of the city-state into several classes, farmers can only engage in agriculture, craftsmen can only engage in handicrafts, and guardians can only participate in war... Isn't such a division too idealistic, but also too Too rigid.Because most people have the desire to obtain a better city-state status, farmers and craftsmen may also want to become guardians, and guardians also want to become rulers. Regardless of whether they can do it or not, you should give them this possibility in advance. Through this way, different classes in the entire city-state can maintain a kind of mobility, and then the people of the city-state will be full of vitality.Don’t you want to know the reason why Dionia is so powerful? This is one of the reasons! "
……
Davos and Plato exchanged their opinions and views on the city-state system with each other. Sometimes they had fierce arguments and sometimes they had calm discussions. Both of them were very involved.
Unknowingly, half an hour passed in a blink of an eye. It was not until Clerk Henipolis reminded him that Davos had to stop communicating and apologized to Plato: He still had important things to do next. The conversation can only end here.
Plato looked regretful. He had indeed benefited a lot from this conversation, from being careless when he was first interviewed to being fully engaged now.
At this moment, he sincerely asked: "Your Majesty Davos, can you promise me a request?"
"Please speak."
"Can you allow me to visit the actual operations of various institutions under the Kingdom of Dionia, like the schools you just mentioned, the Inspection Department, the Construction Department, and the Official Management Committee that evaluates and recruits public officials..."
"Of course there is no problem." Davos readily agreed, and said: "This is my secretary Henipolis, the elder of the Dionysian Senate. When Plato finishes your speech in the academy, he will lead you Visit various places in Turii.”
Plato immediately expressed his gratitude.
After he left, Henipolis asked doubtfully: "Your Majesty, do you really want Plato to take a closer look at our administrative agencies?"
"Of course. Plato is a well-known scholar throughout Greece, and he also has his own academy. I am hoping that he will promote the superiority of the political system of my Kingdom of Dionia in mainland Greece and make Dionia famous." Davos said without thinking said.
"But this may allow other city-states to steal our system." Henipolis said with a slight worry.
Davos laughed: "Henny, you can learn secretly how to make a weapon and equipment, you can learn how to make a handicraft secretly, but it is difficult to learn secretly how to make a political system, especially for those city-states that have been established for a long time. The traditional and conservative forces are numerous and powerful. If they want to change the political system, their interests will inevitably be harmed. A bloody riot will be inevitable. Herolis of Syracuse is an example! So, what kind of No matter what kind of shoes a person wears, it is not allowed to act haphazardly..."
.......................................
The All-Greek Scholars Conference does not have a formal opening ceremony. This is because scholars advocate freedom and do not like to waste time sitting there and listening to people talking. However, how to coordinate the lectures and discussion time of invited scholars is a troublesome thing. question.
This time, the meeting was mainly held in four places in Dionia Academy, namely the School of Mathematics, the School of Liberal Arts, the School of Medicine and the School of Philosophy.Many of the invited scholars have made achievements in multiple fields. For example, Democritus' disciple Thainstrian studied philosophy, mathematics, and medicine; Lysis, as an important figure in the Pythagorean school, Not only does he have deep research in mathematics and physics, but he also has his own unique philosophical concepts... These colleges all want scholars to come to their side to explain it first, so they argue endlessly.
Fortunately, Davos also served as the organizing chairman of this conference. He brought the deans of the four colleges together, and after repeated discussions, the schedule was quickly formulated.
Plato's students came to the Dionysian Academy and found that, as Foster Kada said, the area of the academy, the number of buildings, and the beautiful environment were indeed far greater than those of the Akademi Academy. This made their They felt a little disappointed, but soon they became immersed in all kinds of profound and profound knowledge.
They frequently shuttle between colleges and listen to lectures by scholars.
In the Faculty of Arts, they listened to Lysias's "The Application of Logic in Court Arguments" and Isocrates's "How to Shape Your Speech";
In the School of Mathematics, they thought about Mattiklis's "Discussion on the Regularity of the Vibration Curves of Matter" and Mentortic Els's "Primary Theory of Probability" (which Davers has commissioned from the School of Mathematics for the past six or seven years. Calculation of odds in similar competitions, a knowledge discovered and summarized by the School of Mathematics.);
In the Academy of Philosophy, they had to carefully distinguish between Lysis's philosophy on the "number of all things" and Androsthenes's On the Being of Things (he was a student of the Parmenides of Elea). What are the similarities and differences between the philosophy taught by Mr. Plato and the vice president of the School of Philosophy of Dionia Academy;
In medical school, they watched with wide eyes as Helps described and demonstrated the functions of the heart, Stacey Kordas's "A Preliminary Study on the Pathogenesis of Common Human Diseases - Colds", and Hippocrates' "Obey Nature" "The medical point of view (that is, the human body itself is the best medicine to resist disease, and the doctor's main responsibility is to stand on the side of nature and promote the physical and mental recovery of patients)...
While Spesippus and the others were studying and absorbing knowledge, they also met many young talents. Most of them were students of the Dionysian Academy. They were all confident, generous, diligent and studious. He used papyrus to record key points and actively asked questions. He even stumped the speaker many times because of his profound questions.
After coming down, these Dionia Academy students still had heated discussions, and Spisippus and the others also joined in, but they often couldn't keep up with their quick thinking because they lacked richer knowledge.In fact, this is understandable. There is only one teacher in Akademi Academy. Although Plato is knowledgeable, he cannot have in-depth research in all fields. However, there are many teachers in Dionysia Academy, most of whom are well-known scholars, and allow students from various majors to observe and communicate with each other.
Thanks to Evil Moon Comet for the reward!Your support is my biggest motivation for writing! !
(End of this chapter)
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