Zhutian: From Douluo, the illusion becomes real

Chapter 651 650. Decline politely!

"Sir, would you also easily believe the conclusion of the world?"

"Whether it's Chu or Qi."

"Including Zhao, Han, Wei, and Yan."

"They are afraid of the Qin State."

"That's why they slandered our Qin as a tiger and a wolf, using such derogatory terms."

"With your eyesight, you should be able to see clearly that the people of Qin wandering among the pavilions and towers are no different from the people of the six kingdoms."

"As for the harshness of Qin law, it is certainly true."

"But Qin law is the law for strengthening the country and the people."

"It is also a way to defend the country and protect the people."

"It is better to enforce the law than to have thousands of families weeping."

"What do you think, sir?"

Faced with Ying Zheng's down-to-earth defense, Ye Qingcang nodded helplessly. There is nothing perfect in the world. There are pros and cons. If you want to gain something, you must lose something. Compared with the people of the six countries who are living in dire straits at the moment, the people of Qin are not living very well, but at least they don't have to worry about whether their heads will suddenly disappear, and they don't have to worry about being inexplicably treated as criminals for doing nothing and becoming someone's scapegoat. They only need to work diligently to avoid starving to death. There is also a clear path to advancement through military merit, which has helped many civilians to achieve class promotion. Even if they are just a sergeant commanding ten soldiers, their status is much higher than that of a farmer who works in the fields every day.

In this era, only nobles could serve as officers.

The Qin State was unique.

It’s really well done.

But this kind of excellence is only achieved by comparing with peers.

All the kings and dignitaries of the six countries are treated as individuals.

It’s not that easy for Qin to win.

Unfortunately, there is no such thing as "ordinary" in the world, let alone "if".

Although Qin law was harsh, it ensured the basic interests of the common people very well. The fact that princes were punished the same as common people when they broke the law severely intimidated all the powerful and wealthy people in Qin, laid a solid foundation for Qin law, and naturally gained the support of the common people.

Therefore, Ye Qingcang didn't want to deny it.

There is no reason to deny it.

However, not denying it does not mean that he was convinced by Ying Zheng.

Waved his hand.

He declined politely, "Everyone has their own opinions, and I have mine, too. Although my opinions are different from those of the world, they are also different from yours, the King of Qin. The Qin law is certainly correct, but many things in the world cannot be distinguished by right or wrong. Although we have the same aspirations and the same understanding of the world, we have chosen different paths, so this can only end in regret."

However, Ye Qingcang's words actually aroused Ying Zheng's interest.

He originally thought that Ye Qingcang was just the new leader of Luowang.

Even with some thoughts.

There is no question of him being able to govern a country.

Compared to the general situation in the world, when it comes to the underworld, perhaps we can talk more.

Unexpectedly, Ye Qingcang brought up personal ambitions in just a few words.

This also allowed Ying Zheng to take advantage of the situation.

He immediately asked tentatively: "From what you said, you are very clear about my ambitions?"

"of course."

"I can tell from your actions."

"You want to rule the world."

"Fulfill the last wishes of successive Qin kings."

"Learn from the Zhou emperor, huh?"

Ye Qingcang smiled, looked at Ying Zheng who looked a little surprised, paused for a moment, and suddenly shook his head and said, "To be honest, although I agree with your actions, it is time for this chaotic world to end, but the reason you hold is not correct. You can unify the world by the reason of people's minds, or by the reason of ending wars, or even by the reason that we are all descendants of Yan and Huang, but you should not unify the world by the reason of the last wishes of the Qin kings of all dynasties. Therefore, we have chosen different paths. You walk the path of hegemony, and I walk the path of benevolence."

"Benevolence?"

Ying Zheng didn't expect Ye Qingcang to give this answer.

After a moment of silence.

The corners of his mouth turned up.

I couldn't help but laugh.

There was no sarcasm, just pure confusion: "Although this is the first time we have met, just as you have a deep understanding of me, I also have a deep understanding of you. You are definitely not a person who advocates governing the country with benevolence. If you were, you would not have taken over Luowang. But from the look of you, you don't seem to be lying, but you sincerely believe that you are on the path of benevolence and I am on the path of tyranny. I wonder how you concluded that?"

"What do you think is benevolence?"

Ye Qingcang did not answer Ying Zheng's question.

Instead, he posed another question.

Judging from the format of the conversation, Ying Zheng immediately determined that this was a standard discussion. He put away his smile, sat upright at the table, and said seriously: "Benevolence can be benevolence or benevolent governance. The purpose is to allow the people to recuperate, to allow the people to live and work in peace, and to allow more people under the rule to have enough food. This is what I think of as benevolence. I wonder what your idea of ​​tyranny is, and what it means to be worthy of being called tyranny?"

"Benevolence and tyranny are relative."

“There are pros and cons to each.”

"Benevolence is people-oriented."

"Hegemony is secretly in line with destiny."

"In the Way of Benevolence, legal principles are nothing more than human feelings, but this is also a kind of partiality, so it can also be said that the Way of Benevolence is unfair."

"In tyranny, the law is the law, supreme and unchangeable, and orders are ruthlessly executed under the premise of absolute fairness."

Ye Qingcang has always liked to see the essence through appearances.

Seeing that Ying Zheng didn't quite understand the repetitive conversation.

Snapped his fingers.

For example, he said, "Let's say a man gets angry at a corrupt official's unfair judgment and kills him in public, then surrenders himself. How should the Qin laws judge him?"

"Whoever kills someone intentionally shall pay with his own life."

"According to the law."

"Either beheaded or quartered."

"Considering that killing someone in public has a bad influence and should be used as a warning to others, I think the final sentence is likely to be quartering."

Ying Zheng made an assumption based on the current Qin laws.

But before he could ask Qin Lu what was wrong.

He was choked by Ye Qingcang's question: "If this person committed the crime of intentional homicide and deprived others of their lives without their permission, he should be sentenced to death. Then, what qualifications does the executioner have to deprive this person of his life without their permission?"

The air was quiet for a moment.

Until two or three seconds later.

Ying Zheng corrected him, "Although it was the executioner who deprived this person of his life, he was just following orders. It was the law that really deprived this person of his life. These two concepts cannot be confused!"

“The two concepts really cannot be confused.”

"Because you never understood these two concepts."

"If the executioner can be exempted from the death penalty because he followed orders, or even decided a person's life or death reasonably, then the murderer can also use this reason to get away with it. At most, the two people obeyed different people. One obeyed the orders of the law itself, and the other obeyed the orders of God and his own heart. Both of them should be acquitted."

"In addition, the law is just a tool, created by humans. The tool itself has no thoughts. No law can make a criminal commit suicide based on just one line of words. The person who decides the life and death of the criminal is the judge holding the tool and the executioner who follows the judge's orders. The source should not be attributed to the law, but to the judge himself."

"Do you think the above is a manifestation of benevolence or a manifestation of tyranny?"

Ye Qingcang took a sip of wine.

Sit down and discuss philosophy with Ying Zheng.

This was also the first time that Ying Zheng looked at the issue from this perspective.

After thinking for a moment, he asked back: "This question cannot be explained by pure benevolence or tyranny. The original intention of the creation of law is to maintain justice in the world. It should be a path independent of benevolence and tyranny. Do you think it belongs to both?"

"of course."

"Because law is the product of tyranny."

"What is tyranny?"

"To put it bluntly, the tyrant follows the law of one person, just like Shang Yang who drafted the laws of Qin. In his hands, the law implements his will, his understanding and views of the world. He believes that killing should be punished with death, he believes that there should be fairness and justice between heaven and earth, he believes that the law should not compromise with anyone, and everyone should live under the control of the law... So, have you found that all the laws of Qin are what Shang Yang thinks they should be, or in other words, what most people in Qin think should be the law?" "But is what Shang Yang thinks right?"

“Is what most people think right?”

“Nothing is perfect in this world.”

“It’s the same with people.”

"The minority of people who disagreed were simply suppressed by the majority, using force, violence, and all the derivatives. The law that was established by relying on this suppression of the minority to win over the majority was a false proposition with hidden dangers from the very beginning!"

"Because this kind of law is only praised and recognized by the majority because it is beneficial to the majority, it cannot truly conquer everyone."

“A law that cannot convince everyone.”

"A law that only takes care of the majority."

"If you think about it, what fairness is there?"

"We can even take a step back and ask, how do you know you are not a minority?"

Ye Qingcang never regarded the law as the ultimate truth.

If it is the ultimate truth of heaven and earth, he will abide by it.

Just like apples fall from the tree to the ground when they are ripe instead of flying up, he doesn't think there is anything wrong with this rule.

But if it is the law.

Excuse me.

Any law is just a tool.

It is a tool of the strong.

It is a tool for the strong to tame the weak.

What brings fairness to the weak is never the law, but the will of the strong.

But these words sounded strange to Ying Zheng.

That would be truly a household name.

It was as if someone kicked open the door, pulled me out of the bed, and threw me onto the street, with snowflakes flying all over the sky.

The whole person is not well.

But when he wanted to refute.

But I was surprised to find a helpless fact.

That is what he couldn't refute!

Because there are many precedents waiting for him!
It blocked all his ways to refute!

If we must say that the executioner is guilty, then, when Crown Prince Ying Si confronted Shang Yang with the crime of murder, wasn't it Prince Qian who was punished on his behalf and had his nose cut off by Shang Yang according to the law, while Crown Prince Ying Si was unharmed and was only taken as a warning and not sentenced to death?

He who kills shall die.

This rule had already been broken when Shang Yang himself was alive, and it was only with the help of Gongzi Qian that the situation was barely managed.

Where is fairness and justice?

But if you say that the executioner is innocent, no matter whose orders he followed, even if he executed the death penalty according to the law, he is a murderer. To put it bluntly, the law should sentence him to death.

This creates a paradoxical situation.

The Qin State prided itself on having the most fair and just laws.

The so-called rule of law.

After all, right and wrong are still judged by the king's own will, but in terms of popular appeal, some of the original restrictions have been removed, and the king's authority has been strengthened by appealing to the majority.

In fact.

If the king himself kills people in anger.

Is it possible to still abide by the existing laws and let the law judge ourselves?
Or commit suicide in public to prove the criminal law?
Look at the five thousand years of Chinese history.

Ye Qingcang had only seen one such person.

no doubt.

Emperor Qin Shi Huang could never do that.

So, facing Ye Qingcang's questioning, Ying Zheng could not say anything.

Because if he dared to boast about the fairness of Qin law.

It will inevitably betray one's own identity and position.

If he doesn't betray his identity.

It is equivalent to denying the fairness of Qin law.

The situation required one of them to be abandoned. No matter which one was abandoned, it would shake the foundation of the country. Even Ying Zheng, the first emperor, was unable to make a decision for a while.

But Ye Qingcang spoke without any scruples.

Show your hands.

He said confidently, "On the contrary, the benevolence I promote is not fair at all. The core idea is that the fittest survive in the survival of the fittest. My friends, my relatives, in short, all the people related to me, no matter what they do, I will help my relatives instead of the law. Even if I will be cursed by the whole world, I am not afraid. At least I didn't hurt my relatives and friends, and this is very important in the future. If I choose you, then in the future, when you and I have different opinions, when it is necessary to make a small loss to gain a greater gain, you will inevitably tend to be conservative and will not stand firmly on my side. You may even abandon me for the sake of profit. The friends I find by relying on benevolence will never betray me even if we cannot reach a consensus in the end. At most, they will let me develop on my own. If I can succeed, it will be better. If I fail, they will not mind giving me a suitable way out. This is something you cannot guarantee. I can only express my pity."

"Qin's problems do exist."

"But taking a bad thing and making it better."

"I think you might be interested."

"I can give you space to develop your talents."

"Might as well give it a try."

Ying Zheng was making his final effort.

If we say that he was heading for the trap at the beginning.

Well, now, he came here for the young man in front of him. Even though what the young man said was unpleasant, he could tell from his thoughts and ideas that legal principles were nothing more than human feelings.

But this young man touched the darkness again.

His style of doing things is unconventional.

These all fit in with his ideas for the next steps in changing Qin's laws.

He is a talented person who can govern the country.

But Ye Qingcang still killed the topic with one sentence.

"I have a friend."

"He wants this world, too."

"And I am a person who helps my relatives but not others."

"I don't want to make things difficult."

"So, when we meet again, we may be enemies."

"I will not use such despicable means to assassinate you."

"That's disrespectful to you."

"Either my friend takes the power from you and completes our common dream of unifying the world, or you take the power from my friend and also complete the dream of unifying the world. Don't feel sad, and don't feel lonely. There are many people on this road, and they are all walking on the path they believe is right. It's just that only one person can have the last laugh."

"No need to give it away."

"Farewell."

Ye Qingcang waved his hand.

The space around him suddenly twisted.

Involve him in it.

Seeing this scene, Ying Zheng could only sigh.

He put down the wine bowl with mixed feelings.

Regret to leave.

(End of this chapter)