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Chapter 415: The Debate between Zhuge Liang, Sima Yi and Liu Xie
Chapter 415: The Debate between Zhuge Liang, Sima Yi and Liu Xie
In the palace, in the bedroom.
Zhang Zhongjing was taking Zhen Mi's pulse with his brows tightly furrowed, which made Liu Xie, who was standing beside him, a little frightened.
As the saying goes, we are not afraid of Chinese medicine practitioners smiling, but we are afraid of Chinese medicine practitioners with low eyebrows.
Even Zhang Zhongjing, a great medical saint of the time, showed such an expression when taking Zhen Mi's pulse, which shows that Zhen Mi's illness was much more troublesome than imagined.
Soon, Zhang Zhongjing finished taking the patient's pulse and sighed, "It's really not a simple lung disease. No wonder even Doctor Yihua, who has such great medical skills, is helpless."
Hearing this, Zhen Mi's face turned slightly pale.
Liu Xie's heart sank as well.
Could it be that even Zhang Zhongjing couldn't cure this disease?
Hua Tuo also sighed and said, "This lung disease is something you were born with. Although I have been practicing medicine for many years and have traveled all over the world, I have never encountered such a disease."
"I wonder if Brother Zhongjing has any way to treat it?"
Hua Tuo had great faith and admiration for Zhang Zhongjing's medical skills. He believed that if there was anyone in the world who could cure this disease, it could only be Zhang Zhongjing.
Zhang Zhongjing smiled faintly when he heard this and said, "If it had been a few years earlier, I'm afraid I really wouldn't have been able to do anything."
"But in the past few years, I have been concentrating on compiling medical books and prescriptions in Mount Zhongnan, and I have seen similar symptoms in a medical book."
"Among the five elements, the lungs belong to metal, just like a bell, which will not ring unless struck; earth produces metal, metal and water produce each other, and the lungs and kidneys have the same origin."
"If you want to cure your nobleman's lung disease, you should start from the spleen. Strengthen the spleen and nourish the kidneys, and then the lung disease can be cured."
Zhang Zhongjing spoke eloquently and described the method of treating Zhen Mi's illness.
After hearing this, Hua Tuo showed a look of sudden enlightenment, and kept taking notes in the notebook he carried with him.
Liu Xie did not understand the theories of traditional Chinese medicine that Zhang Zhongjing was talking about, so he asked directly, "Sir, are you sure you can cure Concubine Zhen?"
Zhang Zhongjing bowed and said, "It is not difficult to cure Lady Zhen's illness. The only difficulty is that Lady Zhen is pregnant with a dragon heir. Many medicines are not good for the fetus, so we need to carefully consider the prescription."
"Your Majesty, please give me three months. I will definitely make you recover."
Zhang Zhongjing's tone was calm and confident.
Liu Xie was overjoyed, and took Zhen Mi's hand and said, "My beloved, did you hear that? Mr. Zhang can cure your illness, you just need to rest and recuperate."
Zhen Mi was also very excited at this time. She had already prepared herself to die, but now she had hope again.
"Yes, Your Majesty."
Zhen Mi's eyes were slightly red as she answered softly.
Liu Xie spent a lot of time and effort on her illness, and even invited Zhang Zhongjing, the famous doctor.
"Okay, just focus on your recovery and stop having these random thoughts."
Liu Xie reached out to wipe away the tears from the corners of Zhen Mi's eyes and comforted her softly, saying that emotions can greatly affect the condition of the disease.
Then he took Zhang Zhongjing and Hua Tuo out of the palace and said to them, "If you two can cure Concubine Zhen, I will include doctors in the academy after the unification of the country."
"Then you two gentlemen can enter the palace to teach students medical skills, carry forward the medical tradition and pass it down for thousands of years."
Liu Xie briefly painted a big picture for the two of them.
Of course, it was not just empty talk, because he had the idea of opening a school a long time ago, and it was closely related to the reform of the imperial examination system that he would carry out in the future.
There are so many inheritances and cultures from various schools of thought, such as medicine, agriculture, Mohism, etc., which are all extremely useful. He plans to open a school in the future and list these as subjects for people to study, just like the university majors in later generations.
Only in this way can we screen useful talents more comprehensively.
Zhang Zhongjing and Hua Tuo both widened their eyes when they heard this. They looked at each other and saw shock in each other's eyes.
Although doctors have a great influence, they have never been listed as official schools like Confucianism. And the emperor actually planned to allow their doctors to enroll in the palace?
"I will definitely try my best!"
Zhang Zhongjing was the first to come back to his senses, and he said excitedly that even with his character, he couldn't remain calm in the face of this promise.
He doesn't care about fame, wealth or fortune. What he hopes most is that his medical skills can be passed on and save more people.
And this opportunity is now in front of him!
Liu Xie smiled, encouraged the two of them a few words, and then left. Even his steps became much more relaxed.
……
After the campaign against Ma Chao, Liu Xie had to deal with more and more things every day.
The first was about rewards for the ministers, and the second was about how to reorganize the captured Xiliang troops and move the capital.
Chang'an has been recovered, so moving the capital naturally has to be put on the agenda.
This is a very important matter.
However, moving the capital is a huge and cumbersome matter, requiring a lot of preparations, all of which have to be taken care of by him as the emperor.
He, the emperor who was in charge of everything, was so busy, not to mention his ministers like Zhuge Liang and Sima Yi who were treated like slaves by him.
In order to reduce the burden on ministers, Liu Xie changed the system of staying in the palace to handle government affairs into a shift system. Today, Sima Yi and Zhuge Liang were responsible for assisting in handling government affairs in the palace. They were both kept by Liu Xie to have meals together.
Ordinary people thought that the emperor ate delicacies from land and sea every day, but this did not exist in the palace because Liu Xie did not like luxury and advocated simplicity.
Except for that kind of grand banquet, it would not be very luxurious.
Even if Liu Xie asked Sima Yi and Zhuge Liang to have dinner together today, it would only be three or four side dishes and a pot of soup.
Of course, the cooking method is unique. This is the cooking method that Liu Xie specially taught to the chefs in the palace. After all, the cooking methods of that era were too monotonous.
“Your Majesty lives a simple life and takes rest with the people, which I really admire.
Sima Yi made no secret of his praise for Liu Xie. Although it was flattery, he was telling the truth.
Liu Xie shook his head and said, "Compared to the people of the Han Dynasty, these dishes are already considered a luxury."
"I wonder how many years it will take for the Han Dynasty to regain the prosperity of the reigns of Emperors Wen and Jing after the unification of the country."
The damage caused by war cannot be restored in a short period of time.
Especially since the Han Dynasty had experienced such a long period of war.
The population, food, and system all need to be restored slowly, and this will be a rather long process.
Zhuge Liang held the bowl of soup and smiled as he heard this: "With Your Majesty here, I believe that within ten years, the world will be well governed."
“But that alone is not enough.”
Liu Xie sighed. The Han Dynasty was still a long way from being prosperous, and changes had to be made. He thought for a long time and felt that now was the time to prepare for reforms. He couldn't wait until the world was unified before starting anything.
Hearing this, Sima Yi couldn't help but ask, "I wonder if Your Majesty has any good plan to implement?"
Sima Yi was good at guessing people's minds. When he saw Liu Xie's expression, he vaguely guessed what decision the emperor had come up with.
"I do have some ideas."
Liu Xie did not deny it. He put down the wine jar in his hand and said, "I intend to change the policy of emphasizing agriculture and suppressing commerce and support the development of commerce."
Zhuge Liang and Sima Yi's faces suddenly changed when they heard this.
Improve the status of merchants?
Since ancient times, among the four classes of scholars, farmers, merchants and artisans, merchants were the lowest class.
Because farming is the top priority in any dynasty, merchants are regarded as people who make money by taking shortcuts, so they have always had a low status.
But Liu Xie now says that he wants to start improving the status of merchants. This is completely putting the cart before the horse and going against the grain!
Sima Yi said anxiously: "Your Majesty, this move may cause dissatisfaction among the people of the world, and it will have a great impact on the national system."
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"If merchants don't produce, how can the court support their development?"
Not only Sima Yi opposed, but even Zhuge Liang nodded and said, "What Sima Changshi said is correct. If Your Majesty wants to open up policies to support the development of commerce, then the number of people engaged in business will surely increase greatly. By then, agriculture will not be developed and the country will be in danger!"
Merchants can make a lot of money without hard work, but the price is a low status.
No matter how rich a businessman is, farmers may still look down on him and the businessmen will give way to him when they meet him on the road.
Having said that, in reality wealthy businessmen still have more power, but if the common people were to lose even this last bit of superficial superiority, the country would be in chaos and the consequences would be disastrous.
Liu Xie was not surprised by their opposition, but he did not respond immediately. Instead, he asked, "Zhongda, Kongming, I want to ask you a question."
"Which is more beneficial, keeping wealth among the people or keeping wealth among the country?"
This is a macro topic.
Hiding wealth among the people means that a country's wealth is distributed in the hands of its citizens; hiding wealth among the country means that all a country's wealth is concentrated under the control of the state.
There are pros and cons on both sides.
Hiding wealth among the people: The people of the country are wealthy and live a prosperous life, but the country's spending and control are not abundant.
Hiding wealth in the country: The state controls most of the wealth and can dispose of it freely, but the wealth in the hands of the people is pitifully small or poor, and the wealth at their disposal is low.
Zhuge Liang and Sima Yi looked at each other, perked up and began to debate the issue.
"I think it is more beneficial to store wealth within the country."
"Only when the treasury is full can the army be strong and powerful, and only when the country is stable and strong can the people rest and recuperate, live and work in peace. If the country is not strong, how can the people be safe?"
Sima Yi was the first to speak.
To keep wealth within the country is a state that most emperors aspire to, but few dynasties have ever achieved it.
As soon as Sima Yi finished speaking, Zhuge Liang shook his head and said, "If keeping wealth within the country can keep the country stable, then I dare to ask, isn't Qin strong and prosperous?"
"The First Emperor unified the country and ruled the four seas. The Qin State was the most powerful in the world, but the people suffered and it eventually perished in the second generation."
"Only by distributing wealth among the people and making them happy can we gain their support. Only in this way can the dynasty last for a long time. This is the foundation for eternity!"
Zhuge Liang expressed his own views and opinions.
However, Sima Yi was dismissive after hearing this, because what Zhuge Liang thought was too idealistic and would never work.
The people are getting richer, but the country has less money at its disposal. How can it strengthen its military and control natural disasters and floods?
Only when the country is prosperous can it have enough resources to feed the people. This has been the case throughout history for all dynasties.
However, he did not want to argue with Zhuge Liang in front of the emperor, so he looked at Liu Xie and asked carefully: "What do you think, Your Majesty?
In his opinion, since the emperor raised this question, he must have already made up his mind and just wanted to hear their thoughts.
"Whether it is to store wealth for the country or to store wealth for the people, I do not agree with either view."
To the surprise of Sima Yi and Zhuge Liang, Liu Xie did not support any point of view. He just dipped his finger in the wine and wrote four large characters in a flamboyant style on the table.
A rich people makes a strong country!
After seeing the four words written by the emperor, Sima Yi was stunned and asked in confusion: "The people are rich and the country is strong? Isn't it the same as the country is rich and the people are strong?"
But if you think about it carefully, the meaning of these four words seems to be inclined towards sharing wealth with the people, but the emperor just said that he does not agree with either statement.
Zhuge Liang had a broader vision than Sima Yi, and he explained to him: "The people are rich and the country is strong. This comes from the line 'The ruler of Yue filled the treasury, cultivated the fields, and the people were rich and the country was strong, and the people were at peace and the country was prosperous' in the Wu Yue Chunqiu, the secret story of Gou Jian's return to the country written by Zhao Changjun."
"But I don't know what your Majesty means by this."
Although he knew the source, in his opinion, the four words spoken by the emperor were definitely not as simple as he imagined.
Because these two sentences seem to be the same, but their meanings are completely opposite.
What is a country?
A country is composed of its king, its people and its imperial court. A rich country and a strong people means that only when the country is strong can the people become prosperous.
However, a rich people and a strong country puts the people before the king and the country, which is similar to the idea of keeping wealth among the people, and is essentially the concept advocated by Mencius.
That is, the people are the most important, the country is second, and the king is the least important.
Although emperors throughout history have claimed to put the people first, in reality they put the country first.
What did the emperor mean when he said these four words?
Upon hearing this, Sima Yi looked at Zhuge Liang in astonishment. He didn't expect that Zhuge Liang even knew the origin of this sentence.
Thinking of this, Sima Yi gritted his teeth and said, "Damn Zhuge, a country bumpkin, his knowledge is so profound..."
"Kong Ming is indeed well-read."
Liu Xie praised Zhuge Liang's profound knowledge, and then said: "If a country wants to be strong, it cannot do without farmers and merchants. Qi is an example."
"During the Spring and Autumn Period, Qi's commercial trade was prosperous and its national strength was unmatched; agriculture is the foundation of a country, and commerce is the key to enriching the people and strengthening the country. We cannot neglect one while focusing on the other."
"Only when agriculture and commerce are developed together can a country prosper. Over-promoting one or suppressing the other will eventually backfire. How can we talk about a strong country?"
Liu Xie's words made Zhuge Liang fall into deep thought.
Sima Yi asked directly: "Your Majesty, what you said may make sense...but what does it mean to promote agriculture and commerce at the same time?"
"Agriculture is agriculture, and business is business. How can we develop both?"
He had never heard of the theory Liu Xie proposed. How could agriculture and commerce develop together and be on equal footing with each other?
The two are essentially irreconcilable because the profits earned from business are dozens or hundreds of times greater than those from agriculture, and are also easier.
Liu Xie smiled slightly and said, "This is exactly what I am going to say next."
(End of this chapter)
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