Coquettish Rebirth
Chapter 3584 How to shoot a fight
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Jia Hongjian has no control over what Americans think is delicious. ↑This kind of business details has never been in his control. What he wants to manage should be in the general direction, so he will delegate power to the lunch delivery Old Zhang and they came to get it.So what was Jia Hongjian himself doing?He himself is researching things with Nolan!What are you studying?What else can you study with Nolan?Study movies!Nolan encountered a problem at this time, and was discussing with Jia Hongjian, "How should we shoot martial arts scenes?" It turned out that Nolan was already preparing to shoot the third episode of Batman at such a time.In such a third episode, according to the script written by Nolan and Jia Hongjian a long time ago, this is to film Batman's scars after years of heroism, and at the end of this episode, He was almost paralyzed by a character like Bane!
It can be said that in such a third episode, it is to create such an image of Batman's tragic hero, to exaggerate the tragedy.In this routine of exaggerating sadness, Batman being beaten is a very important point. The pain that Nolan wanted to show for Batman being beaten made the audience feel entangled in watching Batman being beaten with tears in their hearts. feeling.And in the preparatory stage before the filming started, Nolan also knew that he was more fleshy in the fighting scenes, so a few days ago he himself watched all the shots shot when Hong Jinbao and the others were martial arts instructors in the previous movies, and then took the previous The material of the first and second episodes of Batman was found, and he edited it again to see the effect.In the end, who knew that the effect was much worse than the one cut by Hong Jinbao and the others plus Jia Hongjian!
If it is said that Hong Jinbao as a martial arts instructor and Jia Hongjian as an editor worked together to make a movie with the fighting scenes in the film, then the film he edited by Nolan is a mess. It feels like Batman fights with fists and feet. It's so soft that it looks like a sissy fighting!No matter how much he thought about it, he couldn't understand why it happened like this. Obviously, when he edited, everything was based on his understanding of Jia Hongjian's editing features!Why did I finish watching Jia Hongjian's clip on the surface?I feel that after I remember it, I edit it myself, it will be completely different?This in the end is why?With such a question in mind, Nolan took the opportunity of coming to New York to ask Jia Hongjian.
"Why is it all Cheng Long's material? Why is it so soft when I cut it out? Why is it so fleshy? Logically speaking, an actor's own punching skills are enough, and the sense of speed of punching should be comparable. That's enough..." Nolan couldn't tear up Miss Qi.Ah no, he asked puzzledly.Hearing this question, Jia Hongjian thought for a while, then shook his head slightly, "Well... Actually, if you want to shoot fighting scenes, the most important thing is the director and editing, but the actors are not the most important..." Who knew He suddenly said such a sentence that shocked Nolan! "What? Actors aren't the most important thing? How is that possible! Different actors fight differently, I can tell that! Although I don't have a major in film, I have read a lot of books. Don't lie Me!" Nolan couldn't believe it at the time!
Even when he doesn't believe it, he can give examples to support his theory! "Mr. Jia, look, for example, let the two of us fight each other, and there is a camera next to it to shoot. It must not look good. We are not professionals, and the speed of punching and kicking is not fast enough. The sense of strength Not enough. It’s normal to not look good, right? Director’s cut or something. At most, it can give the audience a feeling of intense fighting with dark and dangling shots, which can only make up for it, so I think Actors are the most important." What Nolan said is basically the common understanding of Hollywood and even the entire Western film industry.It’s a universal rule around the world to show “intense” by shaking the camera, such as a scene where a girl is being chased by a bad guy or a ghost.If it is to use a rail car to push the camera and follow the girl steadily to shoot, and watch the girl run in a very stable frame... It's not nervous at all!Especially when the girl shows the back of the head to the camera, there is no way to make facial expressions!
On the contrary, during such a chase, the photographer deliberately let the cameraman run behind the girl with a shoulder-mounted camera.In this way, the camera shakes randomly, and when the time comes to show the audience, the audience will feel very nervous subconsciously!This is the different feelings that different shooting methods bring to the audience. Such a technique is known to filmmakers all over the world, but Jia Hongjian actually does not agree with such a concept-"No, no, how should I put it, in fact, I I think modern audiences are actually very smart, because audiences dabble in movies as much as directors do..." Having said this, Jia Hongjian clearly noticed Nolan's expression of disagreement, and he waved his hand to tell Nolan to shut up first. Asked, he answered directly.
"I know what you mean. As a director, you have to watch many, many movies. But you have to admit that directors watch movies more quietly. You can watch a movie dozens of times, often the first time. For the plot, the second time is to see the difference between other people’s shooting techniques and your own for the same scene, and the third time is to see the difference between other people’s shot editing and shot composition... It’s all about the details, and although the audience They don’t know so much, but after they have dabbled a lot, in fact, the subconscious mind deep in their brains also knows a little about the laws of movies, but they don’t have the knowledge to guide them... It’s like a person who has never systematically learned to drive. He didn't go to a driving school either, he just frightened and tossed around with a broken car in a place where no one was around, and he didn't watch any movies related to driving.
Then when he slowly figured out a set of rules, maybe he didn't know how these rules actually form characters, but these rules may not be much different from those taught in driving schools...according to our Chinese philosophy As the saying goes, this is to come out of theory from practice, and theory can guide practice in turn.Many of our old farmers in China used to cultivate the land with experience when they were uneducated, and then when the technicians sent by the state went to the countryside to guide them and tell them the scientific principles, they knew why this happened.Only then did I know that there is a scientific principle behind their experience! " Having said this, Jia Hongjian paused, ended such a topic, and turned back to the main topic before, "The reason why I said such a sentence is that the director wanted to cover up that the actor would not hit such a practice.Maybe the audience doesn't know the reason behind it, but after watching too many movies, they feel something is wrong!This is the so-called no sense of shock!Similarly, you have not learned how to shoot fighting scenes, but you have watched a lot of fighting movies, and then you always feel wrong when you watch the things you edited. This is a rule that you have explored in your subconscious mind!Maybe you don't know what the rules are, but as long as they don't conform to the rules, you feel wrong! "
Hearing what Jia Hongjian said, Nolan half-understood. "It seems interesting...Mr. Jia, why are directors and editors more important than actors?" Jia Hongjian smiled, "I suggest you watch a film called "The Killer" made in the United States in 1982. This film is starring Cheng Long. He returned to Hong Kong in 1983 and filmed "Project A". You can compare the two films and you will find that "Project A" is a typical Cheng Long movie. The fighting is very exciting, but In "Killer's Trenches", Cheng Long seems to be spoofed by someone, as if the editing is playing the film in slow motion. The speed of the fight is so slow that even the 80-year-old lady moves faster than Cheng Long! Why is this? ? This is because without the cooperation of a good director and a good editor, even a good actor cannot produce a good-looking clip!"
Speaking of this, Jia Hongjian noticed that Nolan was listening attentively. He remembered the fighting scene in Nolan's "Batman" filmed by Nolan in his previous life, which was terrible!Especially when Batman fights Bane.The scene was dim, and then the two people were fighting back and forth, so it was almost impossible to see who was who, and then the camera was still shaking.But even so, Nolan's fight scene still makes people feel that the two didn't fight much and Batman lay on the ground!It felt like two tall and thick old men punched each other a few times, as if a previously invincible old man was knocked over!big brother.Even if you want to kill Batman in seconds, you still have to shoot it awesomely!Can't the two of you beat Batman a few rounds like this and pee?If Batman is so weak, what kind of weak person would be if he was beaten up by Batman before?
Thinking of this, Jia Hongjian said in a targeted manner, "You have to know that in Cheng Long's films, especially those in which he himself controls the editing rights as the director, all the fighting scenes are not dark, even It is a dim scene, Cheng Long himself must be wearing bright clothes, if it is a bright environment, he must be wearing colorful clothes! Why is this? He is to let the audience see him clearly! If the scene is very dark, two people fight The fights come and go, and the audience can't see who is who. How can they think the fight is good? Maybe other directors want to make the fight look fierce, but the fight is not like this.
Just like Premier League football, if the two teams are fighting fiercely, it should be because your side quickly broke into my penalty area, and then performed very well and cooperated very well. There was a very high-quality and threatening player here. Attacking, the result was a kick to the post, and the defense immediately started to counterattack after the end. They also played very well and scored into the opponent's penalty area. Also, the final kick may be a little bit worse...Only the two teams performed well and could Let the audience know who they are and who they are, that's good.On the contrary, if the two pairs are in the midfield, neither of them can organize the attack. As soon as our side passes to the midfield, we are chased by the opponent, intercepted and intercepted the tackle, and then the opponent gets the ball. Shoveling...it's intense...but it's also ugly! "
"So it's like this..." Hearing Jia Hongjian's words, Nolan suddenly became thoughtful. He really hadn't thought about these things before!After realizing this, he suddenly felt that Jia Hongjian was awesome!Shit, this Jia Hongjian is not from a major, so how come Nolan didn't know about it, but Jia Hongjian knew about this kind of fighting so clearly?Really awesome! (My novel "The Legend of Coquettish Rebirth" will have more fresh content on the official WeChat platform, and there will also be a 100% lucky draw gift for everyone! Open WeChat now, click the "+" sign on the upper right to "add friends", Search the official account "qdread" and pay attention, hurry up!) (To be continued, please search, the novel is better and updated faster!
Jia Hongjian has no control over what Americans think is delicious. ↑This kind of business details has never been in his control. What he wants to manage should be in the general direction, so he will delegate power to the lunch delivery Old Zhang and they came to get it.So what was Jia Hongjian himself doing?He himself is researching things with Nolan!What are you studying?What else can you study with Nolan?Study movies!Nolan encountered a problem at this time, and was discussing with Jia Hongjian, "How should we shoot martial arts scenes?" It turned out that Nolan was already preparing to shoot the third episode of Batman at such a time.In such a third episode, according to the script written by Nolan and Jia Hongjian a long time ago, this is to film Batman's scars after years of heroism, and at the end of this episode, He was almost paralyzed by a character like Bane!
It can be said that in such a third episode, it is to create such an image of Batman's tragic hero, to exaggerate the tragedy.In this routine of exaggerating sadness, Batman being beaten is a very important point. The pain that Nolan wanted to show for Batman being beaten made the audience feel entangled in watching Batman being beaten with tears in their hearts. feeling.And in the preparatory stage before the filming started, Nolan also knew that he was more fleshy in the fighting scenes, so a few days ago he himself watched all the shots shot when Hong Jinbao and the others were martial arts instructors in the previous movies, and then took the previous The material of the first and second episodes of Batman was found, and he edited it again to see the effect.In the end, who knew that the effect was much worse than the one cut by Hong Jinbao and the others plus Jia Hongjian!
If it is said that Hong Jinbao as a martial arts instructor and Jia Hongjian as an editor worked together to make a movie with the fighting scenes in the film, then the film he edited by Nolan is a mess. It feels like Batman fights with fists and feet. It's so soft that it looks like a sissy fighting!No matter how much he thought about it, he couldn't understand why it happened like this. Obviously, when he edited, everything was based on his understanding of Jia Hongjian's editing features!Why did I finish watching Jia Hongjian's clip on the surface?I feel that after I remember it, I edit it myself, it will be completely different?This in the end is why?With such a question in mind, Nolan took the opportunity of coming to New York to ask Jia Hongjian.
"Why is it all Cheng Long's material? Why is it so soft when I cut it out? Why is it so fleshy? Logically speaking, an actor's own punching skills are enough, and the sense of speed of punching should be comparable. That's enough..." Nolan couldn't tear up Miss Qi.Ah no, he asked puzzledly.Hearing this question, Jia Hongjian thought for a while, then shook his head slightly, "Well... Actually, if you want to shoot fighting scenes, the most important thing is the director and editing, but the actors are not the most important..." Who knew He suddenly said such a sentence that shocked Nolan! "What? Actors aren't the most important thing? How is that possible! Different actors fight differently, I can tell that! Although I don't have a major in film, I have read a lot of books. Don't lie Me!" Nolan couldn't believe it at the time!
Even when he doesn't believe it, he can give examples to support his theory! "Mr. Jia, look, for example, let the two of us fight each other, and there is a camera next to it to shoot. It must not look good. We are not professionals, and the speed of punching and kicking is not fast enough. The sense of strength Not enough. It’s normal to not look good, right? Director’s cut or something. At most, it can give the audience a feeling of intense fighting with dark and dangling shots, which can only make up for it, so I think Actors are the most important." What Nolan said is basically the common understanding of Hollywood and even the entire Western film industry.It’s a universal rule around the world to show “intense” by shaking the camera, such as a scene where a girl is being chased by a bad guy or a ghost.If it is to use a rail car to push the camera and follow the girl steadily to shoot, and watch the girl run in a very stable frame... It's not nervous at all!Especially when the girl shows the back of the head to the camera, there is no way to make facial expressions!
On the contrary, during such a chase, the photographer deliberately let the cameraman run behind the girl with a shoulder-mounted camera.In this way, the camera shakes randomly, and when the time comes to show the audience, the audience will feel very nervous subconsciously!This is the different feelings that different shooting methods bring to the audience. Such a technique is known to filmmakers all over the world, but Jia Hongjian actually does not agree with such a concept-"No, no, how should I put it, in fact, I I think modern audiences are actually very smart, because audiences dabble in movies as much as directors do..." Having said this, Jia Hongjian clearly noticed Nolan's expression of disagreement, and he waved his hand to tell Nolan to shut up first. Asked, he answered directly.
"I know what you mean. As a director, you have to watch many, many movies. But you have to admit that directors watch movies more quietly. You can watch a movie dozens of times, often the first time. For the plot, the second time is to see the difference between other people’s shooting techniques and your own for the same scene, and the third time is to see the difference between other people’s shot editing and shot composition... It’s all about the details, and although the audience They don’t know so much, but after they have dabbled a lot, in fact, the subconscious mind deep in their brains also knows a little about the laws of movies, but they don’t have the knowledge to guide them... It’s like a person who has never systematically learned to drive. He didn't go to a driving school either, he just frightened and tossed around with a broken car in a place where no one was around, and he didn't watch any movies related to driving.
Then when he slowly figured out a set of rules, maybe he didn't know how these rules actually form characters, but these rules may not be much different from those taught in driving schools...according to our Chinese philosophy As the saying goes, this is to come out of theory from practice, and theory can guide practice in turn.Many of our old farmers in China used to cultivate the land with experience when they were uneducated, and then when the technicians sent by the state went to the countryside to guide them and tell them the scientific principles, they knew why this happened.Only then did I know that there is a scientific principle behind their experience! " Having said this, Jia Hongjian paused, ended such a topic, and turned back to the main topic before, "The reason why I said such a sentence is that the director wanted to cover up that the actor would not hit such a practice.Maybe the audience doesn't know the reason behind it, but after watching too many movies, they feel something is wrong!This is the so-called no sense of shock!Similarly, you have not learned how to shoot fighting scenes, but you have watched a lot of fighting movies, and then you always feel wrong when you watch the things you edited. This is a rule that you have explored in your subconscious mind!Maybe you don't know what the rules are, but as long as they don't conform to the rules, you feel wrong! "
Hearing what Jia Hongjian said, Nolan half-understood. "It seems interesting...Mr. Jia, why are directors and editors more important than actors?" Jia Hongjian smiled, "I suggest you watch a film called "The Killer" made in the United States in 1982. This film is starring Cheng Long. He returned to Hong Kong in 1983 and filmed "Project A". You can compare the two films and you will find that "Project A" is a typical Cheng Long movie. The fighting is very exciting, but In "Killer's Trenches", Cheng Long seems to be spoofed by someone, as if the editing is playing the film in slow motion. The speed of the fight is so slow that even the 80-year-old lady moves faster than Cheng Long! Why is this? ? This is because without the cooperation of a good director and a good editor, even a good actor cannot produce a good-looking clip!"
Speaking of this, Jia Hongjian noticed that Nolan was listening attentively. He remembered the fighting scene in Nolan's "Batman" filmed by Nolan in his previous life, which was terrible!Especially when Batman fights Bane.The scene was dim, and then the two people were fighting back and forth, so it was almost impossible to see who was who, and then the camera was still shaking.But even so, Nolan's fight scene still makes people feel that the two didn't fight much and Batman lay on the ground!It felt like two tall and thick old men punched each other a few times, as if a previously invincible old man was knocked over!big brother.Even if you want to kill Batman in seconds, you still have to shoot it awesomely!Can't the two of you beat Batman a few rounds like this and pee?If Batman is so weak, what kind of weak person would be if he was beaten up by Batman before?
Thinking of this, Jia Hongjian said in a targeted manner, "You have to know that in Cheng Long's films, especially those in which he himself controls the editing rights as the director, all the fighting scenes are not dark, even It is a dim scene, Cheng Long himself must be wearing bright clothes, if it is a bright environment, he must be wearing colorful clothes! Why is this? He is to let the audience see him clearly! If the scene is very dark, two people fight The fights come and go, and the audience can't see who is who. How can they think the fight is good? Maybe other directors want to make the fight look fierce, but the fight is not like this.
Just like Premier League football, if the two teams are fighting fiercely, it should be because your side quickly broke into my penalty area, and then performed very well and cooperated very well. There was a very high-quality and threatening player here. Attacking, the result was a kick to the post, and the defense immediately started to counterattack after the end. They also played very well and scored into the opponent's penalty area. Also, the final kick may be a little bit worse...Only the two teams performed well and could Let the audience know who they are and who they are, that's good.On the contrary, if the two pairs are in the midfield, neither of them can organize the attack. As soon as our side passes to the midfield, we are chased by the opponent, intercepted and intercepted the tackle, and then the opponent gets the ball. Shoveling...it's intense...but it's also ugly! "
"So it's like this..." Hearing Jia Hongjian's words, Nolan suddenly became thoughtful. He really hadn't thought about these things before!After realizing this, he suddenly felt that Jia Hongjian was awesome!Shit, this Jia Hongjian is not from a major, so how come Nolan didn't know about it, but Jia Hongjian knew about this kind of fighting so clearly?Really awesome! (My novel "The Legend of Coquettish Rebirth" will have more fresh content on the official WeChat platform, and there will also be a 100% lucky draw gift for everyone! Open WeChat now, click the "+" sign on the upper right to "add friends", Search the official account "qdread" and pay attention, hurry up!) (To be continued, please search, the novel is better and updated faster!
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