Ming politicians
Chapter 1083 Court Debate
Zhu Youjian was very happy to hear the news that the Houjin Tartars bowed their heads and professed their ministers. This time the situation is different. Houjin's Huang Taiji is willing to go to the emperor's title, willing to restore the Jianzhouwei system, and even willing to send the prince as a hostage , These conditions are completely different from the last negotiation. Of course, he is also clear why such a situation occurred. Houjin suffered heavy blows in Gaizhou and Liaodong. Shenyang, Liaoyang, Haizhou Heyaozhou and other places encountered huge threats, and it was difficult to support them. Huang Taiji was afraid that the court would launch a large-scale attack again, so he wanted to preserve his current strength.
Under the previous conditions, Zhu Youjian would not have paid attention to the request of the post-Golden Emperor Taiji. People cannot fall twice in the same place. How could the emperor of the Ming Empire make such a mistake, but the situation is different now. In Zhu Youjian's heart, Su Tiancheng has become the biggest threat, and the court must first solve Su Tiancheng's problem.
Zhu Youjian's idea is still valid. He remembers that Su Tiancheng once said that to fight against the outside world, the inside must be settled first, and internal instability is the biggest problem. Even if the foreign conquest is successful, it is difficult to completely consolidate it. First of all, he expended his strength to wipe out the rogue bandits, and then he started to attack the Houjin tartars. Zhu Youjian agreed with this view. The situation is the same now, he must first solve the internal problems.
Of course, the Hou Jin Tartars did not keep their promises, and Zhu Youjian was ashamed. So this time, the Hou Jin Tartars came to ask for peace and paid a huge price to beg to bow their heads. Zhu Youjian also needs to think carefully. A decision can be easily made. If this matter encounters opposition from the Minister of Chinese and Military Affairs of the DPRK, the consequences will be serious.
I have to say that Huang Taiji is wise.Through a few words of information, the situation of the Ming court was analyzed, so Zhu Youjian had to say that he felt helpless in making such a decision. Obviously, this negotiation may be because the post-gold tartars wanted to recuperate.But we still have to support such an approach. In the final analysis, all of this involves power and interests.
All the cabinet ministers came to the Hall of Mental Cultivation.
Zhu Youjian decided that it is better to unify the opinions in the cabinet first, so that the following things can proceed. Otherwise, the ministers in the court risked their lives to admonish them, even if they disagreed with the Later Jin Tartars, he would not be able to forcefully advance the peace talks.
Of course.Zhu Youjian's views on Zhou Yanru have changed a lot. He believes that Zhou Yanru is worthy of being the former chief assistant of the cabinet. He understands what is the most important thing in the court and can seize the opportunity to facilitate the formation of opportunities.
The composition of the cabinet is also interesting. Needless to say, Chen Xinjia is absolutely loyal to the imperial power.Maybe Qian Qianyi must have a small child in his heart.Because of some previous incidents, there have long been conflicts between Qian Qianyi, Zhou Yanru and Wen Tiren, and it is impossible to completely ease the relationship now, and it is even more impossible for Yang Sichang and Zhou Yanru to be close, and Liu Yuliang has always been alone. .Needless to say, Su Tian's achievement is just a name, which makes it impossible for the cabinet to work together, and no one should think about dominance, such a situation.It is guaranteed that the power is in the hands of Zhu Youjian. For such a cabinet, Zhu Youjian is completely at ease.
All cabinet ministers have read Huang Taiji's personal letter.
Zhu Youjian finally spoke.
"Dear dears, you are cabinet scholars who decide important affairs of the court. I summoned you today just to discuss the matter of Houjin's peace. I don't want to explain too much. Don't mention the previous things, you guys Based on the things mentioned in the letter, let's discuss and come up with opinions."
Zhu Youjian's meaning is very clear. In fact, he is in favor of Hou Jin's summation, don't mention the last summation, and don't deny this time's summation based on the consequences of the last summation.
As soon as Zhu Youjian finished speaking, Zhou Yanru spoke.
"Your Majesty, I think that this time, we can agree to the peace request of the Empress Jin Tartars. Huang Taiji made it clear in the letter that he is willing to restore the establishment of Jianzhou Guard, remove the title of Emperor, and let his son come to the capital as a hostage. It shows that the Hou Jin Tartars have indeed bowed their heads and proclaimed their ministers. With specific actions, the ministers still have suggestions to restore the Jianzhouwei system. The court will send ministers to Jianzhouwei to govern matters. This is the real control of the establishment Zhou. I also know that the Houjin Tartars are ambitious, but since they bowed their heads and proclaimed their ministers, the imperial court can use all the favorable conditions to suppress the strength of the Houjin Tartars. If the Houjin Tartars are not convinced, the imperial court will attack again. So that the Jin Tartars dare not move at will."
Zhou Yanru's voice was already very loud, and his voice was very resonant. The words he said were grand and grand, but he hadn't finished speaking. He wanted to convince many cabinet ministers just for these reasons. That's not enough. .
"I also thought about it for the people of Ming Dynasty. The increase of Liao's salary has increased a lot of burdens for the people. The conquests in these years have made the people miserable. I have seen the emperor worrying many times, worrying that the people will not have enough to eat. It’s not warm, now that the Empress Jin Tartars have surrendered, the consumption of the court will naturally decrease, and the emperor can pay more attention to the lives of the people, so that the people of Ming Dynasty can live a good life. I don’t approve of conquest, so I firmly support it Negotiate."
A smile appeared on Zhu Youjian's face. What Zhou Yanru said was very good, and it was impeccable. It seems that there should be no big problems in this peace talk. Unfortunately, Zhu Youjian didn't notice Yang Sichang's expression.
Yang Sichang knew very well that the emperor was thinking about peace talks, so that he could divert his attention and deal with Su Tiancheng with all his strength, but Yang Sichang understood even more that this was actually the goal that the Hou Jin Tartars were willing to achieve, which only showed Huang Taiji's scheming , it shows that Su Tiancheng has seen everything clearly, and it shows that the emperor is impatient and immature.
As the chief minister of the cabinet, Yang Sichang had to say something, otherwise, once the peace talks started and had serious consequences, he would be a sinner through the ages, and he should still bear the main responsibility.And the most likely situation is that he was charged with a crime, left in despair, or even locked in a prison. Zhou Yanru is very likely to pick peaches and become the chief assistant of the cabinet.
Even if he is no longer the chief assistant of the cabinet, Yang Sichang has to speak out his own understanding.
Just when the emperor was about to speak, Yang Sichang spoke.
"Your Majesty, I do not agree with Mr. Zhou's point of view. I believe that this peace talk is also a plot by Huang Taiji."
Zhu Youjian frowned, and abruptly suppressed what he was going to say, but he was very upset in his heart, and his face changed.
Yang Sichang didn't take into account the change in the emperor's face, he spoke to Zhou Yanru.
"Since Mr. Zhou thinks that this peace talk is feasible, and the Houjin Tartars are truly surrendered, even if there is any conspiracy by Huang Taiji, the court can find a way to solve it. Then I have a few questions. I want to ask Zhou My lord replied, if Lord Zhou has a convincing answer, this official will also agree to the peace talks with the Houjin Tartars."
Zhou Yanru nodded, his face was full of confidence, and he didn't even open his mouth to answer. In terms of debate, although Yang Sichang was the chief assistant of the cabinet, compared with his experienced predecessor, there was still a gap.
"The first question is, how many sergeants were there when the cavalry rebelled against the Houjin Tartars, and how many are there now?"
"The Hou Jin Tartars rebelled in the 46th year of Wanli. When the Nurhachi cavalry rebelled, there were no more than 30 Hou Jin Tartars. As for today, it is estimated that there are about [-] people."
"Master Zhou is right. Nurhachi rebelled in Wanli 46 years ago. At that time, the total number of troops was less than 2. As for the current military strength, what Master Zhou said may be a little bit wrong. The battle of Gaizhou and the battle of Liaodong resulted in the loss of the Jin Tartars. There are more than 30 troops, and the army strength is less than 40, but Master Zhou has ignored the Mongolian Eight Banners, which can be regarded as the Mongolian Eight Banners. The total army strength of Houjin should be around [-], which is not a small number."
"Even so, I don't know what Master Yang is trying to explain."
"My second question is, from the 46th year of Wanli to the present, in just over twenty years, how many places in my Ming Dynasty have the Houjin Tatars occupied, and what is the speed of their military development?"
Zhou Yanru's complexion changed a little. Yang Sichang's meaning was very clear. The development speed of the Houjin Tatars was very fast, and they had the support of the Mongolian tribes. If they believed in the peace talks of the Houjin Tatars, it would not take long to recuperate. The post-Gold Tartars will develop at a faster rate.
"If Mr. Zhou doesn't say it, then the official will say it. Nurhachi used to be in Hetuala City, the Sukesu Guard Department of Jianzhou Guard, which is thousands of miles away from Shenyang. However, in more than [-] years, the Houjin Tartars occupied the city. The thousand miles of fertile soil to which my Ming Dynasty belongs, as for the military strength of the Later Jin Tartars, if it were not for the disastrous defeat in Liaodong and Gaizhou, the military strength would have grown nearly thirty times in more than twenty years. What kind of concept is this? It is said that the increase in the strength of the Houjin Tartars every year is in the tens of thousands, and the expansion is calculated in hundreds of miles. This shows the speed of the development of the Houjin Tartars. Speaking of this, I will ask Mr. Zhou , The Hou Jin Tartars surrendered to my Ming court, did you say that you handed over your army, did you say that you will not form your own army from now on, since you have surrendered to my Ming court, why can't Huang Taiji come to the court? Huang Taiji is an official in the imperial court, including the so-called crown prince Hauge, who can also be an official in the imperial court, and even the imperial court can consider some Manchu nobles. Your majesty, I think that if Huang Taiji agrees to these conditions , I fully agree with the peace talks."
Zhou Yanru's expression finally changed. He also asked Jia Jihan about the things Yang Sichang said, but Jia Jihan passed on vaguely. This also made Zhou Yanru understand that Huang Taiji's so-called surrender is conditional. It is by no means complete surrender. To a certain extent, Huang Taiji still wants to fully retain its own strength. It is only because of the emperor's worries that Zhou Yanru agrees to peace talks. The Tartars launched a massive offensive. (To be continued..)
Under the previous conditions, Zhu Youjian would not have paid attention to the request of the post-Golden Emperor Taiji. People cannot fall twice in the same place. How could the emperor of the Ming Empire make such a mistake, but the situation is different now. In Zhu Youjian's heart, Su Tiancheng has become the biggest threat, and the court must first solve Su Tiancheng's problem.
Zhu Youjian's idea is still valid. He remembers that Su Tiancheng once said that to fight against the outside world, the inside must be settled first, and internal instability is the biggest problem. Even if the foreign conquest is successful, it is difficult to completely consolidate it. First of all, he expended his strength to wipe out the rogue bandits, and then he started to attack the Houjin tartars. Zhu Youjian agreed with this view. The situation is the same now, he must first solve the internal problems.
Of course, the Hou Jin Tartars did not keep their promises, and Zhu Youjian was ashamed. So this time, the Hou Jin Tartars came to ask for peace and paid a huge price to beg to bow their heads. Zhu Youjian also needs to think carefully. A decision can be easily made. If this matter encounters opposition from the Minister of Chinese and Military Affairs of the DPRK, the consequences will be serious.
I have to say that Huang Taiji is wise.Through a few words of information, the situation of the Ming court was analyzed, so Zhu Youjian had to say that he felt helpless in making such a decision. Obviously, this negotiation may be because the post-gold tartars wanted to recuperate.But we still have to support such an approach. In the final analysis, all of this involves power and interests.
All the cabinet ministers came to the Hall of Mental Cultivation.
Zhu Youjian decided that it is better to unify the opinions in the cabinet first, so that the following things can proceed. Otherwise, the ministers in the court risked their lives to admonish them, even if they disagreed with the Later Jin Tartars, he would not be able to forcefully advance the peace talks.
Of course.Zhu Youjian's views on Zhou Yanru have changed a lot. He believes that Zhou Yanru is worthy of being the former chief assistant of the cabinet. He understands what is the most important thing in the court and can seize the opportunity to facilitate the formation of opportunities.
The composition of the cabinet is also interesting. Needless to say, Chen Xinjia is absolutely loyal to the imperial power.Maybe Qian Qianyi must have a small child in his heart.Because of some previous incidents, there have long been conflicts between Qian Qianyi, Zhou Yanru and Wen Tiren, and it is impossible to completely ease the relationship now, and it is even more impossible for Yang Sichang and Zhou Yanru to be close, and Liu Yuliang has always been alone. .Needless to say, Su Tian's achievement is just a name, which makes it impossible for the cabinet to work together, and no one should think about dominance, such a situation.It is guaranteed that the power is in the hands of Zhu Youjian. For such a cabinet, Zhu Youjian is completely at ease.
All cabinet ministers have read Huang Taiji's personal letter.
Zhu Youjian finally spoke.
"Dear dears, you are cabinet scholars who decide important affairs of the court. I summoned you today just to discuss the matter of Houjin's peace. I don't want to explain too much. Don't mention the previous things, you guys Based on the things mentioned in the letter, let's discuss and come up with opinions."
Zhu Youjian's meaning is very clear. In fact, he is in favor of Hou Jin's summation, don't mention the last summation, and don't deny this time's summation based on the consequences of the last summation.
As soon as Zhu Youjian finished speaking, Zhou Yanru spoke.
"Your Majesty, I think that this time, we can agree to the peace request of the Empress Jin Tartars. Huang Taiji made it clear in the letter that he is willing to restore the establishment of Jianzhou Guard, remove the title of Emperor, and let his son come to the capital as a hostage. It shows that the Hou Jin Tartars have indeed bowed their heads and proclaimed their ministers. With specific actions, the ministers still have suggestions to restore the Jianzhouwei system. The court will send ministers to Jianzhouwei to govern matters. This is the real control of the establishment Zhou. I also know that the Houjin Tartars are ambitious, but since they bowed their heads and proclaimed their ministers, the imperial court can use all the favorable conditions to suppress the strength of the Houjin Tartars. If the Houjin Tartars are not convinced, the imperial court will attack again. So that the Jin Tartars dare not move at will."
Zhou Yanru's voice was already very loud, and his voice was very resonant. The words he said were grand and grand, but he hadn't finished speaking. He wanted to convince many cabinet ministers just for these reasons. That's not enough. .
"I also thought about it for the people of Ming Dynasty. The increase of Liao's salary has increased a lot of burdens for the people. The conquests in these years have made the people miserable. I have seen the emperor worrying many times, worrying that the people will not have enough to eat. It’s not warm, now that the Empress Jin Tartars have surrendered, the consumption of the court will naturally decrease, and the emperor can pay more attention to the lives of the people, so that the people of Ming Dynasty can live a good life. I don’t approve of conquest, so I firmly support it Negotiate."
A smile appeared on Zhu Youjian's face. What Zhou Yanru said was very good, and it was impeccable. It seems that there should be no big problems in this peace talk. Unfortunately, Zhu Youjian didn't notice Yang Sichang's expression.
Yang Sichang knew very well that the emperor was thinking about peace talks, so that he could divert his attention and deal with Su Tiancheng with all his strength, but Yang Sichang understood even more that this was actually the goal that the Hou Jin Tartars were willing to achieve, which only showed Huang Taiji's scheming , it shows that Su Tiancheng has seen everything clearly, and it shows that the emperor is impatient and immature.
As the chief minister of the cabinet, Yang Sichang had to say something, otherwise, once the peace talks started and had serious consequences, he would be a sinner through the ages, and he should still bear the main responsibility.And the most likely situation is that he was charged with a crime, left in despair, or even locked in a prison. Zhou Yanru is very likely to pick peaches and become the chief assistant of the cabinet.
Even if he is no longer the chief assistant of the cabinet, Yang Sichang has to speak out his own understanding.
Just when the emperor was about to speak, Yang Sichang spoke.
"Your Majesty, I do not agree with Mr. Zhou's point of view. I believe that this peace talk is also a plot by Huang Taiji."
Zhu Youjian frowned, and abruptly suppressed what he was going to say, but he was very upset in his heart, and his face changed.
Yang Sichang didn't take into account the change in the emperor's face, he spoke to Zhou Yanru.
"Since Mr. Zhou thinks that this peace talk is feasible, and the Houjin Tartars are truly surrendered, even if there is any conspiracy by Huang Taiji, the court can find a way to solve it. Then I have a few questions. I want to ask Zhou My lord replied, if Lord Zhou has a convincing answer, this official will also agree to the peace talks with the Houjin Tartars."
Zhou Yanru nodded, his face was full of confidence, and he didn't even open his mouth to answer. In terms of debate, although Yang Sichang was the chief assistant of the cabinet, compared with his experienced predecessor, there was still a gap.
"The first question is, how many sergeants were there when the cavalry rebelled against the Houjin Tartars, and how many are there now?"
"The Hou Jin Tartars rebelled in the 46th year of Wanli. When the Nurhachi cavalry rebelled, there were no more than 30 Hou Jin Tartars. As for today, it is estimated that there are about [-] people."
"Master Zhou is right. Nurhachi rebelled in Wanli 46 years ago. At that time, the total number of troops was less than 2. As for the current military strength, what Master Zhou said may be a little bit wrong. The battle of Gaizhou and the battle of Liaodong resulted in the loss of the Jin Tartars. There are more than 30 troops, and the army strength is less than 40, but Master Zhou has ignored the Mongolian Eight Banners, which can be regarded as the Mongolian Eight Banners. The total army strength of Houjin should be around [-], which is not a small number."
"Even so, I don't know what Master Yang is trying to explain."
"My second question is, from the 46th year of Wanli to the present, in just over twenty years, how many places in my Ming Dynasty have the Houjin Tatars occupied, and what is the speed of their military development?"
Zhou Yanru's complexion changed a little. Yang Sichang's meaning was very clear. The development speed of the Houjin Tatars was very fast, and they had the support of the Mongolian tribes. If they believed in the peace talks of the Houjin Tatars, it would not take long to recuperate. The post-Gold Tartars will develop at a faster rate.
"If Mr. Zhou doesn't say it, then the official will say it. Nurhachi used to be in Hetuala City, the Sukesu Guard Department of Jianzhou Guard, which is thousands of miles away from Shenyang. However, in more than [-] years, the Houjin Tartars occupied the city. The thousand miles of fertile soil to which my Ming Dynasty belongs, as for the military strength of the Later Jin Tartars, if it were not for the disastrous defeat in Liaodong and Gaizhou, the military strength would have grown nearly thirty times in more than twenty years. What kind of concept is this? It is said that the increase in the strength of the Houjin Tartars every year is in the tens of thousands, and the expansion is calculated in hundreds of miles. This shows the speed of the development of the Houjin Tartars. Speaking of this, I will ask Mr. Zhou , The Hou Jin Tartars surrendered to my Ming court, did you say that you handed over your army, did you say that you will not form your own army from now on, since you have surrendered to my Ming court, why can't Huang Taiji come to the court? Huang Taiji is an official in the imperial court, including the so-called crown prince Hauge, who can also be an official in the imperial court, and even the imperial court can consider some Manchu nobles. Your majesty, I think that if Huang Taiji agrees to these conditions , I fully agree with the peace talks."
Zhou Yanru's expression finally changed. He also asked Jia Jihan about the things Yang Sichang said, but Jia Jihan passed on vaguely. This also made Zhou Yanru understand that Huang Taiji's so-called surrender is conditional. It is by no means complete surrender. To a certain extent, Huang Taiji still wants to fully retain its own strength. It is only because of the emperor's worries that Zhou Yanru agrees to peace talks. The Tartars launched a massive offensive. (To be continued..)
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