Ming politicians
Chapter 702
Realizing the role of warships, Dorgon's mind has undergone a huge change. He used to look down on sailors, thinking that sailors are useless at all, and fighting still depends on cavalry. The feeling of fighting against each other is something that most people don't understand. Unexpectedly, the Zhengbai Banner and Xiangbai Banner led by the Dorgon brothers gradually became the most powerful, surpassing the Zhenghong Banner and Xianghong Banner led by Daishan. As for Jierhalang, there is no need to worry. Just leading the Xianglan Banner, the strength is not very strong.
What really needs to be paid attention to is Hauge. Although Hauge is only leading the blue flag, he is backed by the positive yellow flag and the bordered yellow flag. Brave and foolish, without any brains, it is relatively easy to deal with.
Dorgon still admires Huang Taiji very much. He seldom convinces others, but in front of Huang Taiji, he is indeed submissive. Thinking back to the beginning, when Huang Taiji first came to the throne, the Qing Dynasty was still a mess, and there were too many people. Problems arose, but within a few years, Huang Taiji turned the world around, especially the four-year battle of Daling River in Chongzhen, which fully showed Huang Taiji's vision. Over the years, the Qing Dynasty became stronger and stronger, all of which It is the credit of Huang Taiji.
After returning to Shenyang, Dorgon moved his mind. If the Qing Dynasty develops a navy, he will try his best to fight for it.
The Guan Ning Jin line of defense seemed to be getting stronger and stronger, and Dorgon didn't dare to boast about Haikou, saying that he would definitely be able to defeat the Jiang Ning camp. Thinking about it, the Jiang Ning camp took down Dalinghe City in just one day, and took the When the soldiers plundered Dengzhou and Laizhou, Su Tiancheng did not directly go to the rescue, but attacked Heishan and approached Shenyang. This was a matter of the survival of the Qing Dynasty, and Huang Taiji had no choice.He recalled himself and his second brother Daishan.It can be seen from this that Su Tiancheng is really powerful, he knows how to grasp the key issues, and he quickly took down Dalinghe City as soon as he arrived in Liaodong, completely stabilizing the Guan Ningjin line of defense.
Let's take a look at Datong and Ningxia.The possibility of entering the customs from there is also getting smaller and smaller. The Eight Banners Army not only has to face the Jiangning Camp and the Frontier Army, but also faces the Mongolian Xibe and Daur tribes. These are two fierce tribes. , Fighting is very good. The Eight Banners Army encountered attacks from these two aspects, and there was almost no possibility of entering the customs.
The rest is the sea route.
The coastline of the Ming Dynasty was long, and there were piers everywhere.You can log in everywhere. In the future, the navy of the Qing Dynasty may become the main offensive army, and the role of the navy will become more prominent.
Moreover, trained sailors can not only fight on land.It is also possible to launch an attack at sea, such an army.It is indeed rare.
Based on such considerations, Dorgon made up his mind that he must work hard to win.
For some reason, Dorgon will not say it, and the Qing Dynasty is not monolithic.
After going to court.Huang Taiji finally talked about the formation of the navy.
At present, there are basically no naval divisions, that is, part of the Han army, the number of which is no more than 2000, mainly for sailing.Generally, they did not participate in the fight. The Navy will be one of the most important forces in the Qing Dynasty. It is absolutely impossible to be controlled by the Han Army. It must be in the hands of the Eight Banners Army.
Specifically discussing the formation of the navy, Huang Taiji has carefully considered.
There are not many people in the Qing Dynasty who pay attention to naval divisions. From Huang Taiji's point of view, it is estimated that Dorgon and Jierhalang may also have Daishan. , which shows that Hauge lacks vision.
Huang Taiji had never considered the issue of heirs. He thought he was still young and in good health, so he didn't need to think about it at all. But Fan Wencheng reminded him that the issue of heirs was the biggest problem for a country. Being able to make it clear, or not having enough strength, is the biggest danger in this country. To plan ahead, we must consider the issue of heirs as soon as possible.
Because of Fan Wencheng's reminder, Huang Taiji seriously considered it, and this consideration made him break out in a cold sweat. The Dorgon brothers have extraordinary power, and the qualifications to act as good are the oldest. , the strength is not weak, including Azig, all have certain strength, these people may not be able to ascend the throne, but they will have a huge influence on the future emperor.God knows what will happen if he decides his heirs and cannot subdue these people.
Fan Wencheng's suggestion is to set up a separate naval division, not to be bundled with the Eight Banners Army. As for the source of sergeants, they can be recruited from Manchus and Han Chinese, mainly Manchus. More, tentatively set at about 1 people. After the navy is formed, it must be trained strictly to become another powerful army in the Qing Dynasty. The commander of the navy must be the emperor himself. Such an arrangement can make the navy Arouse the attention of the public and get many preferential policies, so that they will not be left out in the cold.
Huang Taiji carefully considered Fan Wencheng's suggestion and found it very reasonable, but for the commander in charge of the navy, Fan Wencheng directly suggested to Hauge, why would he prefer Hauge? It's hard to say anything, but Fan Wencheng mentioned the issue of heirs earlier, and there is no doubt that he has a tendency.
Huang Taiji admired the meticulous thinking of the Han people. This is actually a series of things. Arranging Hauge as the commander of the navy is actually to strengthen Hauge’s power. Now Hauge is in command of the Zhenglan Banner. First of all, there are not many sergeants. If the navy can be controlled, the power will be greatly increased.
The establishment of the navy of the Qing Dynasty will greatly increase the expenses of the Qing Dynasty, but such investment is worthwhile and must be done. If the situation changes, some expenses cannot be saved.
Unsurprisingly, not many people pay attention to the naval problem.
After Huang Taiji put forward the suggestion of forming a navy, Azig was the first to speak.
Azig believes that the role of the navy is not great. The Qing Dynasty has always relied on the Eight Banners Army, and the cavalry is invincible in the world. With this money, it is better to invest in the Eight Banners Army and improve the treatment of sergeants. It is necessary to form a navy, and no special investment is required. If the Eight Banners Army wants to attack the Ming Dynasty, it can be transported by warships, and there is no need for special training.
Azig's suggestion has sparked some discussions. Some people think that this opinion is correct. It is necessary for the Qing Dynasty to have warships. You don't have to train specifically, just keep the current state.
Huang Taiji didn't say anything. He didn't want to refute this kind of short-sighted thinking. Azig and others are not in the slightest sensitive to the changes in the situation at the border. They still hold on to the old ideas of the past. This is bound to stumble. Ah It doesn't matter if Zige and others have such an understanding, they must not see it this way, and must stick to their own understanding.
After Azig finished speaking, Dorgon stood up.
"Your Majesty, I believe that the formation of the navy is necessary. The borders of the Ming Dynasty have become more and more strong in recent years. If our Eight Banners army storms the borders, it may cause huge casualties. Under such circumstances, we must find another way. , Forming a navy is the best way. As for the [-]th brother’s talk about maintaining the current state, I don’t quite agree with it. The role of the navy is huge. This expedition to Dengzhou and Laizhou has a deep meaning. I realized that if the warship is fully responsible for the transportation task, once it encounters the Ming Navy, it will definitely cause heavy casualties. The sergeants led by the younger brother are not familiar with naval battles, and most of them are seasick. Many of them will not be able to get up after a day on the boat. , Training must be strengthened, my brother believes that we must form a navy, and we must strengthen the training of the navy, so that our navy in the Qing Dynasty will become an invincible navy in the world."
Dorgon is the one who has the most say. The warships of the Qing Dynasty were used for the first time by Dorgon, and they achieved such great results. They plundered countless wealth and food, and completely destroyed Dengzhou and Laizhou. , This kind of personal feeling cannot be experienced by outsiders, so after Dorgon spoke, many people became quiet.
Daishan also spoke.
"Your Majesty, I think that what the fourteenth brother said is very reasonable. It is necessary for our Qing Dynasty to establish a navy. I think that to establish a navy, it must be of high standard. According to what the fourteenth brother said, we will set up a navy in the Qing Dynasty. The navy is built to be invincible in the world, and the navy of the Ming Dynasty trembles in front of our navy of the Qing Dynasty. In this way, our Eight Banners Army and navy of the Qing Dynasty are the strongest, and the Ming Dynasty will be hard to defend against. Guan Ning The importance of the Golden Defense Line has also been greatly weakened."
Huang Taiji nodded slightly, Jiang is old and hot, Daishan's understanding is really extraordinary, Dorgon has his own experience, Daishan has never been in contact with the navy, it is very good to have such an understanding.
Jierharang also spoke.
"Your Majesty, I believe that it is necessary to set up a navy, and it is also necessary to strengthen training..."
The three princes have all spoken, and Hauge has not yet spoken.
Huang Taiji was a little depressed. This son of his was brave enough to fight the enemy. Unfortunately, he seemed to be missing a string in his mind. It was not about paying attention to sensitive issues. Under such circumstances, whether he thought of it or not , should express their own attitude, but it is a pity that Hauge just doesn't understand.
Among the several sons of Huang Taiji, only Hauge is older, he is 30 years old, except for the sons who died young, the rest are not very old, Ye Bushu is 13 years old, Shuo Sai is 12 years old, Fulincai At the age of two, Hauge is the only one he can rely on at present. As for the future development, Huang Taiji still needs to pay attention to it, but judging from the current situation, Hauge is brave and hesitant, and lacks resourcefulness, so he is not an ideal successor. (To be continued..)
What really needs to be paid attention to is Hauge. Although Hauge is only leading the blue flag, he is backed by the positive yellow flag and the bordered yellow flag. Brave and foolish, without any brains, it is relatively easy to deal with.
Dorgon still admires Huang Taiji very much. He seldom convinces others, but in front of Huang Taiji, he is indeed submissive. Thinking back to the beginning, when Huang Taiji first came to the throne, the Qing Dynasty was still a mess, and there were too many people. Problems arose, but within a few years, Huang Taiji turned the world around, especially the four-year battle of Daling River in Chongzhen, which fully showed Huang Taiji's vision. Over the years, the Qing Dynasty became stronger and stronger, all of which It is the credit of Huang Taiji.
After returning to Shenyang, Dorgon moved his mind. If the Qing Dynasty develops a navy, he will try his best to fight for it.
The Guan Ning Jin line of defense seemed to be getting stronger and stronger, and Dorgon didn't dare to boast about Haikou, saying that he would definitely be able to defeat the Jiang Ning camp. Thinking about it, the Jiang Ning camp took down Dalinghe City in just one day, and took the When the soldiers plundered Dengzhou and Laizhou, Su Tiancheng did not directly go to the rescue, but attacked Heishan and approached Shenyang. This was a matter of the survival of the Qing Dynasty, and Huang Taiji had no choice.He recalled himself and his second brother Daishan.It can be seen from this that Su Tiancheng is really powerful, he knows how to grasp the key issues, and he quickly took down Dalinghe City as soon as he arrived in Liaodong, completely stabilizing the Guan Ningjin line of defense.
Let's take a look at Datong and Ningxia.The possibility of entering the customs from there is also getting smaller and smaller. The Eight Banners Army not only has to face the Jiangning Camp and the Frontier Army, but also faces the Mongolian Xibe and Daur tribes. These are two fierce tribes. , Fighting is very good. The Eight Banners Army encountered attacks from these two aspects, and there was almost no possibility of entering the customs.
The rest is the sea route.
The coastline of the Ming Dynasty was long, and there were piers everywhere.You can log in everywhere. In the future, the navy of the Qing Dynasty may become the main offensive army, and the role of the navy will become more prominent.
Moreover, trained sailors can not only fight on land.It is also possible to launch an attack at sea, such an army.It is indeed rare.
Based on such considerations, Dorgon made up his mind that he must work hard to win.
For some reason, Dorgon will not say it, and the Qing Dynasty is not monolithic.
After going to court.Huang Taiji finally talked about the formation of the navy.
At present, there are basically no naval divisions, that is, part of the Han army, the number of which is no more than 2000, mainly for sailing.Generally, they did not participate in the fight. The Navy will be one of the most important forces in the Qing Dynasty. It is absolutely impossible to be controlled by the Han Army. It must be in the hands of the Eight Banners Army.
Specifically discussing the formation of the navy, Huang Taiji has carefully considered.
There are not many people in the Qing Dynasty who pay attention to naval divisions. From Huang Taiji's point of view, it is estimated that Dorgon and Jierhalang may also have Daishan. , which shows that Hauge lacks vision.
Huang Taiji had never considered the issue of heirs. He thought he was still young and in good health, so he didn't need to think about it at all. But Fan Wencheng reminded him that the issue of heirs was the biggest problem for a country. Being able to make it clear, or not having enough strength, is the biggest danger in this country. To plan ahead, we must consider the issue of heirs as soon as possible.
Because of Fan Wencheng's reminder, Huang Taiji seriously considered it, and this consideration made him break out in a cold sweat. The Dorgon brothers have extraordinary power, and the qualifications to act as good are the oldest. , the strength is not weak, including Azig, all have certain strength, these people may not be able to ascend the throne, but they will have a huge influence on the future emperor.God knows what will happen if he decides his heirs and cannot subdue these people.
Fan Wencheng's suggestion is to set up a separate naval division, not to be bundled with the Eight Banners Army. As for the source of sergeants, they can be recruited from Manchus and Han Chinese, mainly Manchus. More, tentatively set at about 1 people. After the navy is formed, it must be trained strictly to become another powerful army in the Qing Dynasty. The commander of the navy must be the emperor himself. Such an arrangement can make the navy Arouse the attention of the public and get many preferential policies, so that they will not be left out in the cold.
Huang Taiji carefully considered Fan Wencheng's suggestion and found it very reasonable, but for the commander in charge of the navy, Fan Wencheng directly suggested to Hauge, why would he prefer Hauge? It's hard to say anything, but Fan Wencheng mentioned the issue of heirs earlier, and there is no doubt that he has a tendency.
Huang Taiji admired the meticulous thinking of the Han people. This is actually a series of things. Arranging Hauge as the commander of the navy is actually to strengthen Hauge’s power. Now Hauge is in command of the Zhenglan Banner. First of all, there are not many sergeants. If the navy can be controlled, the power will be greatly increased.
The establishment of the navy of the Qing Dynasty will greatly increase the expenses of the Qing Dynasty, but such investment is worthwhile and must be done. If the situation changes, some expenses cannot be saved.
Unsurprisingly, not many people pay attention to the naval problem.
After Huang Taiji put forward the suggestion of forming a navy, Azig was the first to speak.
Azig believes that the role of the navy is not great. The Qing Dynasty has always relied on the Eight Banners Army, and the cavalry is invincible in the world. With this money, it is better to invest in the Eight Banners Army and improve the treatment of sergeants. It is necessary to form a navy, and no special investment is required. If the Eight Banners Army wants to attack the Ming Dynasty, it can be transported by warships, and there is no need for special training.
Azig's suggestion has sparked some discussions. Some people think that this opinion is correct. It is necessary for the Qing Dynasty to have warships. You don't have to train specifically, just keep the current state.
Huang Taiji didn't say anything. He didn't want to refute this kind of short-sighted thinking. Azig and others are not in the slightest sensitive to the changes in the situation at the border. They still hold on to the old ideas of the past. This is bound to stumble. Ah It doesn't matter if Zige and others have such an understanding, they must not see it this way, and must stick to their own understanding.
After Azig finished speaking, Dorgon stood up.
"Your Majesty, I believe that the formation of the navy is necessary. The borders of the Ming Dynasty have become more and more strong in recent years. If our Eight Banners army storms the borders, it may cause huge casualties. Under such circumstances, we must find another way. , Forming a navy is the best way. As for the [-]th brother’s talk about maintaining the current state, I don’t quite agree with it. The role of the navy is huge. This expedition to Dengzhou and Laizhou has a deep meaning. I realized that if the warship is fully responsible for the transportation task, once it encounters the Ming Navy, it will definitely cause heavy casualties. The sergeants led by the younger brother are not familiar with naval battles, and most of them are seasick. Many of them will not be able to get up after a day on the boat. , Training must be strengthened, my brother believes that we must form a navy, and we must strengthen the training of the navy, so that our navy in the Qing Dynasty will become an invincible navy in the world."
Dorgon is the one who has the most say. The warships of the Qing Dynasty were used for the first time by Dorgon, and they achieved such great results. They plundered countless wealth and food, and completely destroyed Dengzhou and Laizhou. , This kind of personal feeling cannot be experienced by outsiders, so after Dorgon spoke, many people became quiet.
Daishan also spoke.
"Your Majesty, I think that what the fourteenth brother said is very reasonable. It is necessary for our Qing Dynasty to establish a navy. I think that to establish a navy, it must be of high standard. According to what the fourteenth brother said, we will set up a navy in the Qing Dynasty. The navy is built to be invincible in the world, and the navy of the Ming Dynasty trembles in front of our navy of the Qing Dynasty. In this way, our Eight Banners Army and navy of the Qing Dynasty are the strongest, and the Ming Dynasty will be hard to defend against. Guan Ning The importance of the Golden Defense Line has also been greatly weakened."
Huang Taiji nodded slightly, Jiang is old and hot, Daishan's understanding is really extraordinary, Dorgon has his own experience, Daishan has never been in contact with the navy, it is very good to have such an understanding.
Jierharang also spoke.
"Your Majesty, I believe that it is necessary to set up a navy, and it is also necessary to strengthen training..."
The three princes have all spoken, and Hauge has not yet spoken.
Huang Taiji was a little depressed. This son of his was brave enough to fight the enemy. Unfortunately, he seemed to be missing a string in his mind. It was not about paying attention to sensitive issues. Under such circumstances, whether he thought of it or not , should express their own attitude, but it is a pity that Hauge just doesn't understand.
Among the several sons of Huang Taiji, only Hauge is older, he is 30 years old, except for the sons who died young, the rest are not very old, Ye Bushu is 13 years old, Shuo Sai is 12 years old, Fulincai At the age of two, Hauge is the only one he can rely on at present. As for the future development, Huang Taiji still needs to pay attention to it, but judging from the current situation, Hauge is brave and hesitant, and lacks resourcefulness, so he is not an ideal successor. (To be continued..)
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