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Chapter 351 Technical Confidence
Chapter 351 Technical Confidence
Judging from the current level of China's aviation industry, even if it obtains products such as the Su-27 or F-15 fighter jets, it will be impossible to successfully copy them within the next five years.
Even according to the judgment of the polar bears and Americans, even if China is given ten years, it will not be able to imitate the same product.
The threshold for the aviation industry is very high, especially aircraft engines, which are known as the "crown of industry". The world's most advanced aircraft engines are not something that China can easily produce today.
The Spey engine developed by Rolls-Royce of England in the 27s has been introduced to China for more than ten years, but China still hasn't figured it out, not to mention the more advanced aviation engines used on Su-15 or F- fighter jets.
Coupled with a series of other parts, special materials and processing techniques, in fact, neither America nor the Polar Bear side is very worried that selling the aircraft to China will bring them huge risks.
They know the performance of these fighter jets much better than China.
In order for these fighter jets to operate normally, all the spare parts needed are also provided by the other party.
Even the pilots need each other's assistance in training.
Therefore, neither America nor the Polar Bear seems to have any particular pressure to sell aircraft to China.
At this stage, the two world giants are still very confident about this.
"Tell me more about it. Tomorrow I will report to the leader in the ministry and ask him to communicate with the Third Ministry of Machine Building. Then I will report to the higher authorities and give Polar Bear a formal feedback."
After thinking clearly about the cause and effect of the matter, Zhu Jiansheng suddenly became positive.
Although the Polytechnic Special Vehicle Factory may not be able to obtain particularly great benefits through this transaction, it will be of great benefit to the Third Ministry of Machine Building.
Zhu Jiansheng has a relatively high vision for his future. He may not always work in a university affiliated to the Fifth Ministry of Machine Building, or even in the Fifth Ministry of Machine Building.
Therefore, anything that is beneficial to China is acceptable, even if it sacrifices the interests of the Polytechnic Special Vehicle Factory to a certain extent.
“This matter needs to be viewed from several dimensions.”
Since his father-in-law was receptive to his suggestions, Jiang Hui naturally had to explain them in detail.
If this incredible proposal can be successfully implemented, it will definitely be a great achievement for Zhu Jiansheng.
Even though the current Su-27 still has various problems, it is not particularly mature.
Even if China were to exchange for a batch of Su-27s, its strength would not change dramatically in a short period of time.
However, since we obtained this fighter jet seven or eight years earlier than the same period in history, the related imitation and research work can be carried out in advance.
After fully understanding the technology of this aircraft, we can design China's own fighter jet based on it.
The two important fighter jets of later generations, the J-11 and J-16, are both deeply related to the Su-27. They can be said to be extended or upgraded products developed based on the Su-27.
Its advanced aerodynamic layout will bring enormous benefits to the development of China's aviation industry.
It would be best to master it early.
Moreover, China's aviation industry itself is following the path of the polar bear, so it will naturally be easier to research and learn.
The most important thing is that by taking this opportunity, if the transaction can be completed directly by barter without spending foreign exchange, the Third Ministry of Machine Building will definitely be very enthusiastic, not to mention the relevant using departments.
"First, we must fully realize the technological advancement of our 12-axis intercontinental ballistic missile launcher, and the impact it will have on polar bears once the United States masters this technology..."
"Second, the United States is willing to contact us to discuss the sale of F-15s and F-16s. We must continue to instill this in the polar bears, and also make them realize that the advanced fighters within the polar bears are not just the Su-27."
"Third, facing the situation where China and the United States are getting closer and closer, the polar bear naturally hopes to disrupt this situation through certain means. Selling very advanced third-generation fighter jets such as the Su-27 can obviously play a role in this regard."
"And then..."
Jiang Hui spent more than an hour expressing all his thoughts.
He also assisted Zhu Jiansheng in organizing some relevant viewpoints into a simple document.
The next day, Zhu Jiansheng took the documents directly to the Fifth Ministry of Machine Building to report to Hu Yong.
The Fifth Ministry of Machine Building attached great importance to Zhu Jiansheng's report and soon realized the benefits of this transaction to China's aviation industry, so it took active action and asked Zhu Jiansheng to specifically connect with the Third Ministry of Machine Building.
"Principal Zhu, your suggestion is really great."
"I have heard a lot of information about the Polar Bear Su-27."
"Since 1972, Polar Bear has been designing this advanced fighter, which features an integrated aerodynamic layout that not only improves the aircraft's aerodynamic performance but also increases the space for the fuel tank and equipment compartment."
"In order to improve the aircraft's high angle of attack performance, the Su-27's wings were equipped with curved wingtips and wing root strakes; however, this integrated solution was opposed by most experts at the time and was on the verge of abortion."
"Over the past decade, the Sukhoi Design Bureau has made various design improvements, which eventually led to the successful finalization of the Su-27."
"If we can get back the advanced fighter jets that Polar Bear has just finalized, it will be of great significance."
"To some extent, our country's aviation modernization has officially begun."
As the deputy chief engineer in charge of the fighter jet project, Shen Yanhuan had a very in-depth exchange with Zhu Jiansheng on behalf of the Third Ministry of Machine Building.
He absolutely supports this deal.
Of course, Zhu Jiansheng's coming here certainly wasn't just for the benefit of the Third Ministry of Machine Building, he also had to consider the interests of the Capital University of Technology.
Whether in spacecraft design or missile technology research, Capital University of Technology has certain accumulation, but compared with universities such as Capital Aviation University and National University of Defense Technology, there is still a gap.
Shen Yanhuan agreed that the Third Ministry of Machine Building should have sufficient exchanges with Capital University of Technology in the future, and could even directly allocate one or two of its subordinate research institutes that lacked funds to Capital University of Technology, so that Zhu Jiansheng could set up the aircraft design department.
If it is finally accomplished, it will definitely be a great thing.
The Fifth and Third Ministries of Machine Building reached a consensus, and then brought in the Seventh Ministry of Machine Building and the fighter jet-using units to report to their superiors, and the plan was naturally easily approved.
At the Polar Bear Embassy, Andre didn't have to wait too long before he received feedback from China.
"Sergeyev, China wants us to use Su-27 fighters to exchange for intercontinental ballistic missile launchers. 10 fighters for 10 launchers. Do you think this plan is feasible?"
As an ambassador, Andre knew a lot of information.
He knows a lot about the Su-27, a key project that has been underway for more than ten years.
He didn't know the specific technical parameters, but he was very clear about the advanced nature of this fighter.
In this case, he needs to weigh the pros and cons to see whether the plan proposed by Huaxia is suitable for reporting to the country.
Otherwise, if a plan that is very unfavorable to the polar bears is reported back, people in China will be very disappointed with Andre. In the past two years, the two bosses of the polar bears have died one after another, and the situation itself is a bit special. Andre naturally does not want to leave a bad impression on the country at this special time.
Don't end up working in the wrong direction, or you'll be in trouble.
"The technology of this Chinese launch vehicle is very advanced in the world."
"Judging from the transactions between China and the United States, the value of these missile launchers is also very high, and the selling price is very expensive."
"Their proposal of exchanging one launch vehicle for one aircraft should take many aspects into consideration and seems to be a relatively fair proposal."
Sergeyev quickly gave a reference opinion based on the information he knew.
Sometimes you have to be responsible for what you say, but if your boss asks you a question and you hide the answer, then don't think about making progress.
To put it bluntly, sometimes the leader is aware of the situation, but he needs someone to speak out what he wants to say.
If you don't say anything, wouldn't that be making things difficult for your boss?
"What you said makes sense. The response from China was obviously well thought out."
"Let's report this plan to the country first and see if we can convince the relevant departments."
Andrew felt relieved when he heard Sergeyev's straightforward advice.
The other party is a talent appreciated by bigwigs in the country. Bringing him along to promote this project will save a lot of trouble.
"It would be best if the department that uses the intercontinental ballistic missiles could communicate with the people at the Sukhoi Design Bureau, so that we can persuade the Sukhoi Design Bureau to agree to the exchange to the greatest extent possible."
"Otherwise, if the other party disagrees, the relevant departments will probably delay making a decision in order to avoid taking responsibility."
Although Sergeyev is young, he is very clear about the rules and regulations and ways of doing things in various departments in the country.
If you want to let people make judgments, it is best not to let them take too much risk. This way it will be easier to make breakthrough progress.
Andrew listened to the advice and quickly put all the suggestions into practice.
Before long, many departments within Polar Bear began to formally discuss this plan.
As the designer of the aircraft, the attitude of the Sukhoi Design Bureau is naturally the most concerned.
If they strongly oppose it, there will be more obstacles in this matter.
"Simonov, China wants to import the Su-27 from us, and the relevant departments seem to be a little interested. Do you think there will be any impact if such an advanced fighter is sold to China?"
As the chief designer of the Sukhoi Design Bureau, Ivanov is now in high spirits.
After more than ten years of hard work, their design bureau finally came up with a groundbreaking fighter product, which reversed the unfavorable situation of the Polar Bear in the third-generation fighter.
"This fighter has only been mass-produced recently, and the number of domestic equipment is not very large. If it is exported to China at this time, many of its secrets will probably be lost."
"Given the close relationship between China and the United States, many performance indicators of this aircraft will probably be known to the people in the United States soon."
As deputy chief designer, Simonov was responsible for the aircraft's test flight and many other testing tasks, and was very familiar with the aircraft's various performance characteristics.
It is precisely because he knows these performance characteristics, combined with the information previously provided by the Polar Bear Intelligence Department, that he knows that the fighter designed by his own design bureau is more advanced than the American F-15.
To put it bluntly, it is the most technologically advanced third-generation fighter jet in mass production in this era.
At least that’s what Simonov thought.
"If that's all you're worried about, I have a different opinion."
"China has indeed been very close to the United States in recent years. The two sides are like allies."
"But I think both America and China know that their relationship can't always be that good."
"The national conditions and systems of both sides are completely different. Now, because both the United States and China are under tremendous pressure from us, both sides have put aside their past prejudices and come together."
"Once our relationship with China changes, the situation will change immediately."
"So after China really gets the aircraft from us, it is impossible for China to actively tell the United States about its performance. China will even do everything it can to prevent the United States from learning about it."
After Ivanov's explanation, Simonov couldn't help but nodded, knowing that his consideration just now was indeed not sufficient.
He is an engineer and is best at technology. He is not very good at things involving international situations.
"If you don't consider this aspect, then I have no particular concerns about this deal."
"Anyway, with China's current technology, even if we get a batch of fighter jets, we won't be able to figure it out in the next ten years."
"After more than a decade of continuous improvement and perfection, the improved models we have launched will definitely have more advanced performance. We are not afraid that the planes sold to China will bring us any pressure."
Simonov analyzed the possible impact of this transaction on the Polar Bears from a technical perspective.
He is very confident in the product he designed and is obviously not afraid that China will copy it after getting the plane.
"That's true. China's current J-7 and J-8 products are completely different from the Su-27, let alone just copying the aircraft."
"Even if we sell them the complete set of technical drawings, it will be impossible for them to be successfully produced within ten years."
It is clear that Ivanov and Simonov share the same views on technology.
To some extent, this statement is not wrong.
Producing an advanced fighter jet is a test of the capabilities of a country's industrial system. It is not something that can be produced simply by giving you technical data.
The higher the end of the product, the more so.
"So if the relevant departments feel that China's 12-axle intercontinental ballistic missile launcher is really that important to us, there is no need for us to oppose the deal."
"After all, the Americans already have China's launch vehicle technology. If we fall behind, the relevant departments will indeed be under pressure."
Following the discussion between Simonov and Ivanov, the attitude of Polar Bear towards this cooperation soon became clear.
Of course, when it comes to such an important cooperation, and the fact that the relationship between the two sides is still in a relatively sensitive period, it will definitely take some time for it to be implemented.
Even if the cooperation agreement is formally signed, it will definitely take until next year to complete the delivery of fighter jets.
(End of this chapter)
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