The big man has a living father

Chapter 198 (Large Chapter) Court Meeting
"I object."

Now everyone agrees, do you object?
What the hell? ! ! !

Liu Che was also confused. These are all your ideas. What are you against?
Liu Che was not angry, but puzzled: "You object? What do you object to?"

Huo Hai: "I am against the integration of government and enterprises."

After these words were spoken, everyone in the court was stunned.

This is not right.

It was you who promoted the new business reform! Now, in the Han Dynasty, the chairman of a super-large enterprise has a status similar to that of the Nine Ministers.

You still object to this?

The higher their status, the more successful your new business reform will be, right? Why are you still opposing it?

And smart people have already thought of the answer to the question.

Why did the Imperial Censor Zhang Ou jump out to fight with Huo Hai, and why was he defeated silently?
Others may not know, but naturally smart people will see it.

The reason why some people followed Zhang Ou and Huo Hai to compete was because the ministers wanted to control major enterprises, such as Tongguan Coal Mine.

Later, the rise of Mehefu and the privatization of coal mines and other enterprises directly dispelled the ministers' ideas.

but.

The noble ministers wanted to control these enterprises, but were defeated.

Now, civilian ministers can take control of these companies?

If the new emperor who comes to the throne does not have such strong economic power, won’t he be manipulated by the ministers below?
Liu Che: "Tell me about it. Explain it in detail."

Huo Hai: "That's right. I am against the integration of government and enterprises. Officials and enterprise managers can be integrated. But the public service system of the court and the state-owned or royal enterprises of the Han Dynasty cannot be integrated."

This is a bit confusing.

No one at the scene could understand.

Huo Hai: "Let me go on to explain in more detail. The officials and the managers of the Han state-owned enterprises and royal enterprises can be the same group of people, but they cannot be the same person."

"For example, the general manager of Tongguan Coal Mine should be the general manager of Tongguan Coal Mine, not a court official. A court official is a court official, and court officials should not be allowed to directly manage other enterprises."

Having said that, everyone will understand a little bit.

Huo Hai continued: "Let me give you a simple example. Now, there is a person named Zhang San."

"Zhang San was not interested in theoretical knowledge since he was a child, but he was very talented in operating machinery, so he did not pass the exam to become an official, but became a worker instead."

"After he came to the factory, he did better than anyone else. He was an outstanding worker for three months, a model worker for the production line in one year, and in the second year he started to improve the productivity of the production line, driving the factory to flourish. In the third year he invented a new machine that was much better than the previous ones."

"May I ask, what should we do with this person?"

The ministers hesitated at this time.

It is indeed possible.

According to Wen Weng's method, the factory managers should be promoted through examinations just like the court officials.

However, as a worker like Zhang San has achieved this level, shouldn’t he become a manager?

There was a Censor Hu Qian: "This... Lord Huo, is there a possibility? If there really is such a person, then he can only lose a little. After all, the method of selecting factory managers through examinations is better than this. After all, when managers are selected through examinations, they are learning management, and they are definitely better at management than front-line workers."

Huo Hai: "Oh? Then why doesn't Zhang San leave the imperial factory and build a similar factory himself? He has the most advanced experience, methods to improve the production line, and new machinery. As long as the investment is in place, he can overturn the imperial factory in less than a year."

"Then let me ask you, Lord Hu, is it useful for the imperial factory to select a more suitable manager?"

As soon as these words were spoken, everyone in the court came to their senses.

Yes, if you don't give them rights, can't they just run away on their own? How come, after working in your imperial factory for a year and earning the lowest wage for workers, you still restrict them and don't allow them to open their own factories?
But if there are no restrictions, such people can turn the imperial factories into a pile of scrap metal. Then what is the use of the powerful managers you selected through examinations?

It is possible that this manager originally had the talent to be a prime minister, but because of this, he fell in his first position and could never stand up again.

Hu Qian thought for a moment and said, "That's not going to work. How about promoting Zhang San to be a junior manager of the imperial factory and then gradually promote him based on his merits? Just like the army."

Huo Hai shook his head: "A factory can be like the army, but a factory is different from the army."

"Let me ask you, Zhang San, because of his outstanding ability, became a grassroots manager in the first year, a middle manager in the third year, and a senior manager in the fifth year. Before he was 30 years old, he became the director of this factory. So here comes the question."

"He is the person who knows this factory best. No one can replace him. Doesn't that mean no one can replace him in the next 30 years? He has been in this factory for 30 years. In the end, what is the difference between this factory and his factory?"

Not to mention the Yin-Yang contract, even a five-layer contract has become a tacit understanding.

Not to mention that by then his whole family might be working in this factory.

Liu Che: "So, it's not right to be promoted, and it's not right not to be promoted either?"

Huo Hai: "That's why I say I am against the integration of government and enterprises. Enterprises are different from the imperial court."

"My suggestion on this issue is that people like Zhang San should get a raise."

"How can we be sure that Zhang San is better than others, and not that the person in charge of this factory is deceiving his superiors and subordinates?"

"It's an exam, it's also an exam, a special exam for his industry, used to assess his professional title. For example, he starts as a first-level worker, then gets promoted to a third-level worker, then a first-level engineer, then a third-level engineer, then a first-level expert to a third-level expert."

"To be rated as a third-level expert is basically the best in the country. In history, there are few rivals. So, with this level of ability, what can we say about entering the Institute of Technology and the Research Institute?"

Everyone nodded after hearing this.

Huo Hai: "And this exam should be the exam that all industries really need, but the exam for court officials should not involve this."

"The examination for court officials should assess their ability to handle government affairs, their views on people's livelihood, economy, military affairs, and politics, whether they have complete thinking logic, and whether they have the ability to write independently. These are the abilities needed for being an official."

"For example, Li Si passed the exam and was assigned to this factory as a middle-level manager."

"And Zhang San is also in this factory, just like him. Both of them are extremely talented."

"Zhang San rose one level each year, and became an engineer in the fourth year, while Li Si also rose three levels in the fourth year, and was promoted to a higher position."

"Five years later, Zhang San became an expert, and Li Si became the factory director because of his outstanding performance."

"This is when the key comes. Zhang San becomes an expert and can go where experts should go. And outstanding talents like Li Si should also go to new positions instead of continuing to work in this factory."

In fact, in reality, Zhang San would definitely leave in the fifth year, and the same goes for Li Si.

Because other units will poach people.

An enterprise that won’t be poached? This kind of large enterprise is impossible for Zhang San and Li Si to enter from the beginning.

Huo Hai continued: "When Zhang was in his thirties or forties, he had become a top expert in the industry, and his words were his final words. Moreover, because of his excellent performance in the assessment and his achievements, he was promoted to the position of Grand Secretary of the two academies. At the same age, Li Si had already entered the court and became one of the Nine Ministers."

“This way, the development path is correct.”

Progress. People all hope and desire progress.

Therefore, this kind of top talent must be given room for improvement.

Take Zhang Santian for example. He made progress almost every year and became a first-class expert at the age of 30.

Then I went to the two academies and started to climb up to bachelor's, doctoral, university scholar and academician.

Isn't that enough to show off his arrogance?

What about Li Si? He was good at managing the factory, and was quickly promoted, and then came to the court.

Even though they both worked in the same factory at the beginning, they took two different paths from the beginning.

Liu Che: "I understand what you mean, but what if Zhang San is very talented in technology, but he wants to become an official instead of a researcher?"

"As a technician, he is definitely more effective than others as an official in this industry."

Huo Hai: "That's the problem. He can only choose between a technical position and a mid-level management position or above."

"Some people might think that this is a waste of talent."

"After all, most of the time, rights are more attractive than honorary treatment."

“But here’s the problem.”

"A mature system should continuously supply talents. It doesn't matter if the treatment of one of them is a bit wasteful. As long as there are enough talents supplied, the vacancy left by him will naturally be replaced by others."

Huo Hai looked at the officials and said, "To put it bluntly, the Han Dynasty used to have difficulty selecting officials from 10,000 nobles. If, 30 years later, the Han Dynasty has a population of 200 million, and 180 million of them have received education and have studied in official schools for more than 16 years, how would the officials selected from 180 million people compare to those selected from 10,000 people, no matter how bad or wrong they are?"

Indeed, the high competitive pressure and job restrictions will definitely waste some compound talents.

There are other factors, such as luck, that can also waste a large part of talent.

But even so, among the 180 million people selected, each one is a talent.

Not to mention anything else, at least our predecessors took great pains to set up a lot of exams, and these later generations solved them one by one.

Since they can solve test papers with so many aspects, can't they solve real-life problems?
Even if they can't solve it, can someone who can't even solve a test paper solve real-life problems?
possible!
But the probability is extremely low, so low that no country should try it.

Liu Che began to think.

Title? Rank? Honors from the two academies?

Government officials and corporate managers can be transferred horizontally? Or transferred to each other? That's interesting.

At this time, Meihefu stood up, saluted to Huo Hai, and then said: "Master Huo, I have a question."

Everyone turned to look over.

Speaking of the current business representatives of the Han Dynasty, who can surpass Mehef's reputation?

If this system is established, the one who will benefit the most will be Mehef.

Because later on everyone had to take exams and then climb up step by step.

And Mehef? He was sitting right on the top.

It is very likely that he will be transferred directly to the court to become a high-ranking official.

And with his experience, he may be a strong competitor for Sima Xiangru's position in the future.

Huo Hai: "You say."

Mehefu: "Lord Huo, let me give you an extreme example."

"For example, there is a person who established a company. The scale of the company is exactly the same as that of Tongguan Coal Mine. It is also a coal mine. They pay the same amount of taxes as Tongguan Coal Mine pays to the Han people. They also support as many Han people as Tongguan Coal Mine supports."

"The chairman or general manager of this company, logically speaking, should have the same social status as me, right?"

Everyone thought about it and couldn't help but nodded.

A company is not a government office.

Since state-owned enterprises cannot be integrated, only personnel can be integrated.

Then what Mehefu said does make sense.

In other words, the general manager of this private coal mine and Mehev, a high-ranking official in the court, have the same role in society.

But looking back, their status is far inferior to that of Mehefu.

Because Mehefu could become the chief officer of a department at any time, or even be the governor of any county.

But this person, who actually does the same work as Mehefu every day and has the same abilities, does not have this possibility.

Mehef continued: "So, how should we treat this man? Should we still treat him as a civilian?"

"Shouldn't the court make use of his abilities?"

"Another thing, if he has no rights and is just a commoner, how can we prevent people like me from using the power of the court to suppress him and his business?"

Cao Xiang was confused by what he heard: "Meihefu, you are really asking for trouble."

"Your idea is not to speak for outsiders. As the manager of the court enterprise, all profits belong to the court or to Your Majesty, so of course you should have the right. He is a private enterprise, making money for himself, what is there to say?"

"For example, if I have someone under my command who opened such a large coal mine, and I want to give him the same rights as you? That's not him usurping the throne, it's me!"

Everyone turned to look at Cao Xiang. Hey, this guy is still clear-headed on this aspect.

Indeed, you make money for private individuals. Why do you have the qualification to have the same status as those who make money for the emperor? What is your level?
Mehef waved his fingers: "No, no, no."

"Whether it is a private enterprise or a state-owned enterprise, its significance to the country is the same, because the government can collect as much tax as it wants. Whether it is a private enterprise or a state-owned enterprise, it can support the same number of people and provide the same amount of tax revenue."

"The only difference is that the imperial court's enterprises have driving significance, but when it comes to an enterprise of the scale of Tongguan Coal Mine, whether it is an imperial court enterprise or not, it has driving significance, as long as the enterprise is truly loyal to the Han Dynasty."

"The only difference is that it is a court enterprise. Your Majesty can sell it if he needs money one day."

"But this possibility is not very high."

If it doesn’t sell, that’s one thing.

There is a difference for individuals or officials, but for the country, the difference is really not that big.

Seeing that everyone was still thinking, Mehefu paused for a few seconds before continuing: "But the question I'm talking about is another matter."

"For example, this person...let's call him Zhang San."

"Zhang San has a coal mine that is exactly the same size as my coal mine in Mehefu, makes the same contribution to society, and pays the same taxes to the imperial church."

"But no matter how he develops, the profits belong to the coal mine, and he will always be the general manager of this coal mine. If I, Mehev, can compete with him, it will be a huge benefit."

"The market created by the two super-large coal mines is here. If I use some tricks within the court to suppress this company, wouldn't the market belong to me alone? Then I don't need to do anything else, and the shipment volume will skyrocket."

"Then I will naturally have made great contributions. After making great contributions, won't I be promoted?"

"Doesn't that mean... a hundred years later, the entire imperial court will be filled with people like this?"

Yes, how can a serious competition beat this kind of tactics? If you can get promoted in this way, then those who will be promoted in the future will definitely be people like this.

Who has the ability to say that he can develop as well and as fast as this person who takes advantage of loopholes without using his power? Is he cheating? Everyone started to think about it.

Yes, in fact, this imaginary Mehef was not working for the interests of the court and the country, but for his own promotion.

This is actually a very important issue that requires negotiation.

Logically, those standing in the court today are all officials, and they should ignore such issues.

But in fact, almost everyone in the court today has another identity, capitalist.

What if I’m no longer an official one day?
Wouldn't I also have to face such malicious competition?

To put it bluntly, this issue is about whether to give private capitalists political rights.

Some of the people present here are nobles and marquises, but some are not.

Even Jin Bei, who came here as a babysitter today, started thinking about this question.

As long as you do a good job, you will be able to take over the core soon, in five or six years at most, and no more than ten or twenty years.

Then what weight do my words carry among my colleagues?
And those who will work in the rubber industry in the future, who are of the same size as themselves, are completely controlled and exploited by their colleagues. How dare they resist?

But on the other hand, if this is the case, then wouldn't everything belong to the court and the emperor himself? That's not right!
All the civil and military officials in the court suddenly realized something.

This can't be done. If so, within ten years, all the wealth in the world will belong to the emperor alone!

In the past, people said that the world belonged to the emperor, but that was only in form.

Now it might come true!
But Liu Che didn't want the whole world either.

Liu Che had already understood the answer to this question.

If the world is divided into one thousand pieces and the emperor occupies 100 percent of them, there are still only one thousand pieces.

If the world is made up of 10 million people and the emperor only occupies 1%, that is still 100,000 people. It is a hundred times more.

If this kind of vicious competition can work, who would still run a private enterprise? Wouldn't everyone run to become an official?

Isn't that back to square one?
Wouldn't the economic vitality of the entire Han Dynasty disappear in an instant? Would everything return to the old state?
You say use the law to protect them? It's useless.

In a word, only by having a say and being able to be present can we avoid all this from happening.

To put it bluntly, capitalists also need a channel for upward mobility and a way to express themselves.

Huo Hai: "Officials in the imperial court hold such a meeting every once in a while, and the meetings are becoming more and more frequent. There is a trend of holding regular meetings."

Li Cai added: "It's not that it's vaguely there, but it's already fixed. Currently, the three dukes and nine ministers who have an overview of the overall situation in the court have to hold a meeting every three days. It's just that the big and medium court meetings are random."

Huo Hai: "In this case, the court meetings will be fixed, with the three dukes and nine ministers as the core of the small court meetings, and each meeting will be expanded to a certain number of people according to demand."

"Medium court meetings are held every other week. Large court meetings are held every other month."

"Similarly, a meeting composed of non-court officials is established to discuss matters, and it is called a parliament."

"The parliament does not have a small parliament, but an upper parliament and a lower parliament. The upper parliament is composed of big capital and important state-owned enterprise managers, and meets once a month, while the lower parliament is expanded to a certain size, the same size as the number of people in the grand court, and meets every three months."

"And if necessary, Your Majesty can call any meeting at any time."

This system of upper and lower houses and large, medium and small court meetings actually divides power into small pieces.

This is exactly what Liu Che has always been pursuing.

In theory, the emperor must first hand over his power before any large, medium or small court meetings and the upper and lower parliaments can be held.

But the facts have proved that even if power is taken away from one person, it will eventually be concentrated together, so Huo Haiti did not mention anything like constitutionalism.

After listening to this, Liu Che stood up and said: "The court meeting should indeed be held regularly. Now, every time it is held, the Yulin Lang is notified. For this matter alone, I have added a thousand Yulin guards."

"It's not that I can't afford to support these 1,000 people, but the number of good family men who died in the war this year is decreasing. In a few years, the Han Dynasty may not be able to gather so many Yulin Guards."

"It's troublesome to notify each employee one by one, so let's make it a fixed system."

"As for the parliament, it is indeed a good idea, but how much say this parliament has and in what areas it has a say requires further discussion."

This matter is very simple.

The right to speak means that the results of parliamentary discussions must be published in newspapers.

It is impossible for Liu Che to say, "I am thick-skinned, I will not listen to them whatever they discuss." That would definitely not work.

At least what is discussed needs to be implemented most of the time.

Once a lot of the things discussed in this parliament are implemented, the people will know about them and recognize their rights.

Once the people recognize their political rights, the political status of this group of people will be raised.

In other words, people in the court have a high concentration of power and a certain degree of authority. People in the parliament have a high concentration of power and a certain degree of authority.

To put it bluntly, the New Deal created a group of new privileged aristocrats, and this group of people are about to come to power.

It is conceivable that this group of people will definitely follow Huo Haima's lead.

But this is the case for now. It is hard to say what will happen a hundred years later when Huo Hai is gone.

Therefore, the specific issues that the parliament should be given the right to discuss still need to be discussed.

Also, discussion is one thing, but what about the criteria for selecting people?

If a few unruly people come in and say, "I think we can make a fortune if we conquer India, so I suggest we attack India as soon as possible," that would be fatal.

I am afraid that outspoken and stupid people will get mixed in, and if they love to express themselves, it will become a joke.

It will even lower the standard of the Han people and directly corrupt the moral system they operate.

Liu Che: "Is this the problem now? Aren't we here today to discuss the imperial examination? Who agrees and who opposes?"

The question Liu Che asked was like asking people on the train whether they had bought tickets to go home.

Everyone discussed where to go to play mahjong after the banquet, where to have the banquet, what the menu would be, and then ran out to ask, "Are we sure we want to have the banquet?"

Of course we have to eat, otherwise why are we discussing playing mahjong? ! ! !
But in fact, no one voted.

At this time, everyone was thinking.

Whether the new things being discussed are beneficial to you.

If it has no benefit to oneself, then it cannot be implemented!

But the golden strategy proposed by Jin Bei did prove the importance of having professionals do professional things. Otherwise, the court would just assign a job to the nobles and they would be dragged to death.

At that time, the imperial court will assign a task to the nobles: "You must invent the most advanced howitzer and hand it over to the imperial court within one year, otherwise your title will be stripped."

What will you do? I just ask you what will you do?
You hand it over. The imperial court has a powerful weapon, and they know you have the ability to design it, so they are keeping a close eye on you. How are you going to live?
You can't hand it over. Strip me of my title and become a commoner.

You can't hand it over, and you're still opposing it. Then the advanced howitzers handed over by other nobles will have a shooting range.

At least professional people should do professional things, and then this buggy system can be fixed.

The issue of rights raised by Meheev is also a very important issue.

There are thousands of kinds of people, and there are definitely many who are not human.

The system is here, but there will always be people who sabotage it for their own selfish interests.

The question is not how to restrict them but to reduce the concentration of their power.

The way to reduce their power concentration is not to let them mind their own business. That is not called reducing power concentration. That is called giving them paid leave.

Reducing the concentration of power means having more people in power and making power more segmented.

Now many of the nobles are very enthusiastic about this house.

The reason is very simple. First of all, from now on, court officials will no longer be selected through family connections. The emperor may still use this method to select his closest nobles, but with so many nobles, who knows whether he will still be close to them by then?
If the parliamentary system is stabilized, who are the people who are truly qualified to be members of parliament?

Isn't it just a choice for someone who is rich, powerful and aristocratic at the same time?
Since it is a place for people to speak out, shouldn’t the nobles who have money, power and status be the ones who need to speak out the most?

Therefore, many nobles wanted to support this parliamentary system.

The popular nobles, however, do not consider these two issues; they just want stability.

The more stable the situation, the better.

I was always one step ahead of others. I stood at the highest level when the country was founded, and now I am riding on the steam locomotive of the new era and am at the forefront again.

The most important thing now is to prevent anyone from causing trouble.

As long as no one causes trouble, you will only become more and more powerful.

Almost no one wanted to speak.

Because, it is still unclear what exactly happened.

Seeing that no one else was talking, Liu Guang spoke up, "Your Majesty, how about we leave it at that for today and continue the discussion another day?"

When Liu Guangyi spoke, many people nodded.

Everyone needs to exchange opinions in small groups privately, consolidate their camps, put forward their own opinions and suggestions, and strive for success.

Liu Che: "Don't bother with that. Let's wait another day. Procrastination is not the character of the Han people."

"The Grand Marshal and the General of the Cavalry, the Senior Ministers, the Second Senior Ministers, the Nine Ministers, the Marquises with more than 2,000 households, the General Managers of listed companies, and the General Managers of super companies preparing for listing, gather on the right."

"Non-officials and non-nobles, please discuss outside the hall. The rest of the officials should discuss in the hall on the left."

People started moving on their own.

Huo Hai went straight to the hall on the left.

At present in the Han Dynasty, the General of Cavalry is at the same level as the General, which is higher than the Three Dukes, while the front, back, left, and right generals are lower than the Three Dukes and higher than the Nine Ministers. There are more than nine Nine Ministers. Marquises with more than two thousand households are all great nobles, equivalent to the Dukes of later generations. The general manager of the listed company is talking about people like Mehefu, who belong to the quasi-Nine Ministers who are not in the core.

These people are the core team of the Han Dynasty.

Huo Hai does not belong to any of them.

At this time, Jin Bei and Xiang Xu were confused.

Jin Bei is the general manager of Dahan Rubber Company, and Xiang Xu is the general manager of Anluo Railway.

They are going to the right.

However, Huo Hai went to the left and the other two went to the right. In their opinion, wasn't this going against Tian Gang?
Jin Bei wanted to call out to Huo Hai, but Xiang Xu saw what Jin Bei was about to do, so he put his hand on Jin Bei's shoulder and pulled him to the right: "There is only one voice in the court."

That is the voice of the Emperor.

Huo Hai's coming also shocked the middle and lower-level officials: "Ah? Lord Huo, why are you here? Why don't you go to the right?"

Huo Hai: "Why would I go to the right? If you have anything you want to say or fight for, just tell me and I'll help you decide if it's reliable or not."

Many people are now helpless. In the past, all nobles had the opportunity to receive the imperial favor, but now only the great nobles have the chance to receive it, and the lesser nobles cannot get it. So they have to find a way to make their children pass the exam.

Someone actually mentioned it.

If you don't mention it now, you won't have to mention it later.

In fact, their problems are easy to solve, since it's an aristocratic military academy.

But it can't be opened.

The aristocratic military academy is equivalent to a base for cultivating trash. No matter how strict the education is, there will always be trash sneaking in, and there will be quite a few of them.

Huo Hai gave them a plan to set up some exams in which only the descendants of officials could participate.

Huo Hai set up diplomacy.

It can be said that the descendants of officials, who enjoy privileges and the best educational environment but cannot pass the examinations for other positions, must be not very smart and do not follow the rules.

Should we keep people like this in the country and let them become officials?
Send them all out.

Can they show off their power when they go out?

Of course not, because besides them, there are also Confucianists in various places. Especially these genuine ambassadors are all masters of Guliang School. These people are in a mutually reinforcing and counterproductive relationship.

In addition to them, there will definitely be great nobles in various places in the future, and a hat will be put on their heads.

If they cause any trouble by then, it will be simple to just behead the two unfilial sons. This will both appease the people's grievances and solve the problem.

Of course, Huo Hai wouldn't say it.

After everyone thought about it, they could only nod.

Although being sent out is not as comfortable as living in Chang'an, it is at least a backup. If my son fails to get a job in Chang'an, he can go to Rome...

On the other side, a group of senior officials saw Xiang Xu and Jin Bei coming.

It is even more certain that Jin Beiya is just a stooge arranged by the emperor.

But why did Xiang Xu come here? Is he finally going out?
"Xiang Xu?" Cao Xiang chuckled, "Are you finally going to stand out on your own?"

Xiang Xu nodded: "I will be in charge of the Anluo Railway in the future."

Railway from Chang'an to Luoyang.

As soon as these words came out, everyone fell silent.

The Anshen Railway has made so much money, how can the Anluo Railway be any better? That is a super artery that will drive tens of billions or even more of the economy in the future! Just one bite would be enough to double the wealth of a marquis of a fiefdom with 2,000 households!

How can I be considered a noble? You are the father. Come, take a seat, take a seat!
A grand court meeting? Actually, everything is under control. Let's just chat.

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Asking for a monthly ticket!
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