In 1978, I was admitted to Harbin Institute of Technology
Chapter 228: Let 617 buy technology. China is the most suitable country for Pakistan to send large n
Chapter 228: Let 617 buy technology. China is the most suitable country for Pakistan to send large numbers of students abroad.
joke?
Zhai Xinguo glanced at Tang Kexian and sighed silently: I also hope this is a joke, but unfortunately, Xie Wei's proposed solution can theoretically achieve such armor-piercing capability.
However, the new armor-piercing projectile is still in the theoretical stage; there are no detailed design plans yet, let alone prototypes for testing.
So I simply kept quiet.
The lunch was plentiful, but no one was in the mood for it. In addition, the foreign representatives and military leaders had to go back in the afternoon, so no one drank alcohol.
"You all go back to school this afternoon. Don't worry about anything else. As for the export contract, leave it to the Ministry's Precision Machinery Import and Export Company. They'll come looking for you..."
After finishing his meal, Li Rui went to find Xie Wei first.
He neither introduced Xie Wei to the military leaders nor Xie Wei introduced the military leaders to Xie Wei.
Clearly, he was not familiar with the military leaders in front of him.
"Row."
Xie Wei didn't think much of it.
Li Rui had already told him that cooperation with Pakistan was not so simple. Now, Colonel Murita Zardak had nothing to do except ask if technology and production lines could be exported.
Colonel Murita Zalidak and the others should be at the school.
"Are you going back this afternoon? Could you wait a bit?"
As Xie Wei and his group were about to leave, they were stopped by Zhu Zhenhui.
"Is something wrong?"
Xie Wei looked at the leaders of Factory 617 with puzzlement.
Although using the Type 59 tank as a target demonstrated the powerful capabilities of the 40mm sniper grenade launcher and the disposable rocket launcher, it ultimately had no impact on Factory 617's tank orders.
"That's right, your rocket launchers' armor-piercing capabilities far exceed our expectations. We hope to communicate with you on armor-piercing and armor protection... Only a shield can be effective if it can block the penetrating power of a spear."
A fleeting look of embarrassment crossed Tang Kexian's face.
They're professionals when it comes to tanks.
Should professionals consult with non-professionals?
"this?"
Zhai Xinguo looked at Xie Wei.
To be honest, he felt that this trip was not very meaningful except for wasting his time.
It's okay if you don't come.
How do we discuss with tank engineers how to improve tank armor protection?
"This is actually unnecessary."
Looking at Tang Kexian, Xie Wei shook his head. "President Tang, improving the armor protection of tanks is nothing more than working on materials and tilt angles. We are not familiar with armor materials, and tilt angles and such require a lot of experiments to prove."
It's not that he doesn't want to have more contact with the other person.
Xie Wei knew that no matter what he said, it would be useless: throughout the 80s, many models of domestically produced tanks were developed, but none of them satisfied the troops. Finally, in the 90s, the troops had no suitable tanks available, so they directly turned the Type 85-II tank from export to domestic sales, and after design modifications, it became the Type 96A tank.
why?
With increasingly favorable relations with the West, poised to enter a honeymoon period, many leaders are considering collaborating with foreign countries to import advanced technologies. This has led to further cuts to the already limited funding available to domestic research and development teams.
The upcoming jaguar event is a prime example.
The Jaguar uses the Type 59 tank chassis, with the United States responsible for the upper hull, turret, engine, etc. The tank gun uses the Western-standard L7 105mm rifled gun.
It's been going on for years, and a lot of money has been spent.
Ultimately, when the United States unilaterally terminated the contract, the entire project was not completed, and only two prototype vehicles were manufactured for testing.
Basically, the military projects that China and the West cooperated on during the honeymoon period did not have good results. The only benefit was that it allowed Chinese designers to come into contact with Western design processes and standards.
Because the Jaguar project was aborted, and the Type 80 and Type 88 tanks were outdated and could not meet the needs of the military's development.
As a result, the troops discovered that the Type 85-II tank, which was designed and developed specifically for Pakistan, a traditional customer that was both poor and demanding, was quite cost-effective. With some modifications, it could fully meet the needs of the troops as a low-end tank for development. It could be paired with the third-generation tanks under development to form a high-low mix, thereby reducing costs while significantly improving the combat effectiveness of the armored forces.
The Type 99 main battle tank was only truly launched after the Jaguar tank project was terminated.
At this moment, the one-armed chief designer of the Type 99 tank is still developing a stabilized fire control system at home using a rudimentary model.
"It won't take you too long."
Looking at the young Xie Wei, Tang Kexian frowned: This young man seems to have a very unfriendly attitude towards Factory 617.
"We can provide your organization with detailed performance data for our rocket launchers, including the principles of armor-piercing and explosive demolition!"
Xie Wei's words stunned both sides.
The principle of armor-piercing blasting is the core technology of armor-piercing rocket launchers.
"Of course, our research isn't easy either. As the leading tank manufacturer in China, Factory 617 has no shortage of funding, so they should be able to support some of our R&D expenses, right?"
"You mean we'll pay your school to buy technology?"
Zhu Zhenhui stared at Xie Wei in astonishment.
Zhai Xinguo and Tang Daoxian were dumbfounded: Xie Wei even charged money for providing technology to domestic companies?
The school got the materials from other places, but they didn't pay for them.
If this gets out, won't other organizations also have to pay for providing technical information to the school?
"Director Zhu, how can you call it a purchase! Our school has spent a lot of money on this rocket launcher technology project... Your factory is large and powerful, and your annual funding is enviable. You casually give us some support to continue our research and development. How can you call that a purchase?"
Xie Wei grinned.
The stance is clear: without money, don't expect to obtain core technologies and information.
"you……"
Zhu Zhenhui looked at Xie Wei, not knowing whether to laugh or cry. He now understood why such a large institution as Harbin Institute of Technology would give a young man like Xie Wei a prominent position.
Did the school leaders bring this up?
Can't afford to lose that person.
"Of course, if your factory is interested, we can also cooperate with our school. Our school has a prototype of the WZ-122 project, Director Zhu, you know about it, right?"
Zhu Zhenhui nodded.
Before the establishment of Harbin Military Engineering Institute, its military technology research and development was arguably the best in China.
Thanks to its geographical location, many of the 156 key industrial projects aided by the Soviet Union involved technology transfer related to Harbin Institute of Technology.
Later, Harbin Military Engineering Institute was split up and relocated, and some projects were naturally left to Harbin Institute of Technology.
"Are you still researching three-liquid vehicles?"
Tang Kexian looked shocked.
The WZ-122 tank is a three-hydraulic vehicle: a hydraulic transmission system, a hydraulic control system, and a hydropneumatic suspension system.
The technical difficulty was too great, and the relevant departments, realizing the problem in a very short time, stopped the development of the three-liquid locomotive. The three-liquid locomotive was then changed to a three-locomotive with mechanical transmission, mechanical operation, and torsion bar spring suspension.
Ultimately, the project was terminated because the technical specifications failed to meet expectations.
The leaders of Factory 617 were naturally aware of the situation of the WZ-122 tank project. There was no funding from higher authorities, and Harbin Institute of Technology was just a school, not a specialized tank research unit, yet they were still continuing the research.
Where did the funding come from?
"Yes, that's right. Mechanical engineering and hydraulics are our school's traditional strengths."
Xie Wei had a big smile on his face.
"Hey Xie Wei, how about we find somewhere to sit and chat? Standing here isn't really suitable..."
Zhu Zhenhui became interested.
Harbin Institute of Technology is indeed very strong in fields such as mechanical engineering and automation. Perhaps we can learn more about it through Xie Wei and his team, and see if we can get some resources from them that can effectively improve the performance of the tanks currently being designed and developed.
This test will certainly lead to dissatisfaction among the military regarding the performance of the tank currently under development.
"Director Zhu, if your factory has any needs, you can arrange for our inspection team to come to our school to discuss this. We have other matters to attend to, so we won't keep you any longer."
After Xie Wei finished speaking, he gestured for Zhai Xinguo and the others to leave. His words nearly caused Zhu Zhenhui and his group to lose their temper.
Listen!
Are you talking human language?
What do you mean by "We have other things to do and won't keep you any longer"? Does this mean that they themselves have taken up their time?
Watching Xie Wei and the others leave, Zhu Zhenhui fell silent for a moment.
"Factory manager, how about we cooperate with Harbin Institute of Technology?"
Tang Kexian was too lazy to argue with Xie Wei, a young man.
What's the use of being good at talking?
Does Harbin Institute of Technology really possess any advanced tank technology?
If it really exists, it cannot be ignored at all.
"None of the leaders at Harbin Institute of Technology are easy to deal with. They've made their message very clear through Xie Wei, this young man."
Zhu Zhenhui sighed.
He believed he had grasped the message the leaders of Harbin Institute of Technology wanted to convey through Xie Wei: cooperation.
"Send someone over there to take a look."
"We don't have enough funds either..."
"There was no promise of funding. Everyone's funding comes from the government, and the technologies developed belong to the government!"
Zhu Zhenhui said with a smile.
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"Xie Wei, are we really going to sell the technology to 617?"
On the way to the airport, Zhai Xinguo finally couldn't hold back.
He was puzzled as to why he, who was several generations older than Xie Wei, was still so impatient.
"617 is only involved in tank development. Even if they acquire the technology, it won't be of much use to them."
Wang Zheng, who had been virtually invisible on this trip, spoke up, saying, "I don't think they'd pay us to take the technology from us."
"The squad leader probably didn't want them to pay him for the technology, did he?"
Tang Daoxian suddenly said.
???
Wang Zheng and Zhai Xinguo both looked at Tang Daoxian, wondering what he meant by those words.
"I think the class monitor is probably collaborating with Factory 617 for other purposes. Isn't the school also involved in a tank project? If Factory 617 were to provide some of its smaller projects to the school, the school would have a lot more research opportunities, right?"
Tang Daoxian looked at Xie Wei nervously; this was just his guess.
"Really?"
Zhai Xinguo looked at Xie Wei in surprise, then recalled that Xie Wei had asked Factory 617 to send someone to the school before he left. "Could it be Principal Li's idea?"
What does this have to do with Old Man Li?
"The school's technological advantages require many research projects to be fully realized and developed. Let's just take a shot, no matter what."
Xie Wei said with a smile.
"..."
Wang Zheng rolled his eyes.
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On the plane back to the capital.
Li Rui was with people from Pakistan and Thailand this time. At this moment, he was talking with Pasin Danasong, leaving Murita Zaridak and another Pakistani person aside.
After boarding the plane, the military leaders, who were in a bad mood, did not communicate with each other and simply closed their eyes to rest.
They were even too lazy to listen to Li Rui's cooperation proposal with the Thai side.
To stop it?
I don't know if we can stop Li Rui from doing this. It would definitely be impossible without the support of higher-ups.
If they don't stop it, they'll be even more upset: their own troops haven't even gotten to use advanced technology, yet it's being sold internationally...
"Colonel, I think we need to persuade the General to go to Harbin Institute of Technology when we get back."
Another person whispered to Colonel Murita Zaridak.
"Imohan, why do you say that?"
Murita Zaridak looked at Lieutenant Colonel Imohan Farouk in surprise.
Although his rank was slightly higher than the other man's, Lieutenant Colonel Imohan Farouk was a staff officer in the military.
"The military leadership has always hoped to establish our own defense industry, but domestic universities do not have well-developed related majors..."
Lieutenant Colonel Imohan Farouk glanced at Li Rui, who was chatting happily with Pasin Danasong beside him, not chuckling softly, and said, "We can definitely ask them to help train the relevant designers when we cooperate with them on the research and development of related equipment..."
The Pakistani military leadership is well aware of the level of domestic universities.
Although the country has many universities, in the field of military technology, it really can't compare with China, which has a fairly complete heavy industrial base.
“Let’s talk about it when we get back! They’re just a school, and there’s probably a big difference between them and professional research institutions… What Li said might not be true.”
Murita sighed.
What Li Rui introduced to them was very different from what they knew.
Although the sniper grenade launcher and rocket launcher that Harbin Institute of Technology brought out were more powerful than they had imagined.
"At least, they have mastered the technology for sniper grenades and rocket launchers... These two weapons can greatly enhance the combat effectiveness of rank-and-file soldiers who are not well-educated or have low military skills! Moreover, this is also a very good opportunity to train our own relevant designers."
Imokhan emphasized.
He hoped the colonel would reach a consensus with him and go back to persuade the general in charge of the inspection.
Even if Pakistan's technical personnel are less skilled, as long as they can design and manufacture domestically, it's not a problem.
No matter how advanced the technology you buy, it's not as good as being able to produce it yourself.
Imokhan supports the idea of the military leadership to establish their own military industry and is even working towards it.
"They are unwilling to export technology..."
Murita sighed.
He knew perfectly well that this was an opportunity.
Research institutes or manufacturing plants, on the other hand, do not have the same level of systems to support their talent development.
Harbin Institute of Technology (HIT) is a university with many basic disciplines related to the military industry, which can comprehensively cultivate talents needed in various aspects of a certain field.
"Perhaps we can first talk to them about arranging for our students to study at Harbin Institute of Technology, so that our students can study alongside their students..."
"Imohan said in a deep voice."
Studying abroad?
Murita was taken aback; he hadn't considered this question before.
After all, China itself is sending a large number of students to developed countries.
"China is the most suitable country for us to send a large number of students abroad because their infrastructure is relatively complete, but their technology is not too advanced..."
"Isn't the purpose of sending students abroad to learn more advanced technologies?"
Murita was stunned.
I don't understand why Immohan said that.
Aren't all international students around the world here to learn the most advanced technologies and knowledge?
"Theoretically, that's true, but we need to consider our domestic foundation. Even if we can send our students to the best universities in the United States, what good will it do them after they graduate? Do we have enough supporting industries?"
(End of this chapter)
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