Jianbao life
Chapter 1047 Questionable seal
Chapter 1047 Questionable seal (continued)
Now that the underside of this seal has been worn off, will the seal on the seal now be engraved by Wu Changshuo?Obviously the odds of this happening are very low.
Afterwards, Chu Chen observed carefully and found that although the printed text looked like it could be faked, it was slightly inferior to the main text on the side in terms of charm.
Don't think it's just a problem with the seal, this alone has a great impact on the value of the seal, and it's not just this, it's like superfluous, and it's not as valuable as when the seal is just worn off.
As for whether Huang Shanyi has bought at a loss, it depends on whether he knows about this matter. If he knows, he should not lose money.But judging from his attitude of striving for perfection when buying things, Chu Chen thinks it is more likely that he doesn't know.
When Chu Chen gave the seal to others, Huang Shanyi smiled and asked, "Mr. Chu, what do you think of this seal?"
Chu Chen said euphemistically: "Needless to say the material of the seal and the inscription on the side, it's just a pity that this seal has been polished before."
"Polished?" Huang Shanyi was quite happy at first, but when he heard the latter, he was a little stunned.
The others also heard this sentence, and hurried over to look at it. Since the polishers were of a relatively high level, they looked at it for a while before they realized that the printed surface had indeed been polished.Then the question arises, did Wu Changshuo feel that the engraving was not good, did it on purpose, or was it polished off by later generations?
Everyone thought about it, and felt that the latter possibility was more likely. First of all, in terms of the quality of Fang Tianhuang, it was impossible for Wu Changshuo to carve casually.Moreover, judging from the date on the inscription, when Wu Changshuo carved this seal, he was already a master of seal carving, and it was certainly impossible to make such a mistake.
Needless to say, the result is that nine out of ten of the current seals were re-engraved by later generations.
At this moment, Jiang Jiachang asked, "Young Master Chu, is this seal re-engraved?"
Chu Chen replied: "I think it should be engraved later, because the look of the inscription is wrong. We can feel it when we compare the inscription on the side."
For this point, except for Ying Mingxin, who is not very accomplished in calligraphy and painting, everyone else can more or less see it.
Knowing this result, Huang Shanyi seemed a little unbelievable, but he couldn't help but not believe it, which made him somewhat depressed, and said: "I really didn't pay attention to this matter, if I didn't find it now, I guess I can only It's a shame to be dumb. However, I have never encountered this kind of situation before."
Chu Chen said: "Actually, the seal is made by a famous artist, and the seal is worn off, but the phenomenon of the seal is still relatively common. For this kind of seal, some people will engrave the content they want. In addition, there are some good people who make up the same seal as the original. This kind of seal with real print and fake print is very easy to be confused in the market."
Zhao Qirui nodded and said: "I have heard of this kind of thing many years ago. Someone got a pair of Qi Baishi's seals. Unfortunately, the seals were worn off, but the seals were really preserved. So this person imitated Qi Baishi's The style was engraved on the original stone and sold to the cultural relics store. The cultural relics store failed to see through it, and bought it as a genuine product. In the end, it was spotted by an expert."
Hearing what Chu Chen and Zhao Qirui said, Huang Shanyi shook his head and sighed: "This kind of thing is really impossible to guard against, and you will fall into it if you are not careful. However, I don't know who rubbed off the original seal, what a waste of nature! "
"This kind of thing is more common."
Jiang Jiachang said: "Just like a friend of mine, he bought a Tianhuang seal at a relatively cheap price ten years ago. The button head is carved with a phoenix, and the word 'Wen Zuo' is written on the side. .This seal is a random seal, not very regular, and the name of the seal is a name he has never heard of."
"Moreover, although the 'Wenzuo' noted in the margin is similar to the name of Shangguan Zhou, a famous painter in the Qing Dynasty, it is known from other people that the character used by Shangguan Zhou is 'Wen Zuo', and he has never used Wenzuo. I thought that the seal might be owned by an ordinary literati, and it was of little value. So, my friend ground it into a square seal, and also ground the seal, leaving only the margin."
"The year before last, I happened to be a guest at his home with an expert on seal identification, so he took out the seal and wanted to identify the quality of the stone. The expert asked him why he had to grind off part of the button head, and said that the button head was carved Weifeng, the carving technique is superb, it should be everyone's work, it's a pity to wear it off like this."
"So, my friend told the reason. The expert was very regretful after hearing this. He said that the descendants of Shangguan Zhou sorted out its historical sites, introduced that Shangguan Zhou was written as Wenzuo, and also wrote Wenzuo. He also said that Shangguan Zhou Zeng Inscribed 'Wenzuo' when I made seals for others many times, the two characters on the side of my friend's seal are the same as those recorded in historical materials, and it should be the seal that Shangguan Zhou made for his friend."
"My friend regretted it, but fortunately he left the word 'Wen Zuo' on the side note, as a way of consoling himself..."
Chu Chen has heard many of the examples Jiang Jiachang mentioned, and many people regret it.
In fact, collecting seals can start from three aspects, namely: material, engraving, and characters (including seals and inscriptions).If one of the three is good, it has a certain collection value; if both or all of the three are good, it is even better.
In addition, when collecting old seals, it is important not to easily wear off the seals and margins.Because no matter what, it is always better to collect the original flavor. If the seal is worn off, in addition to destroying the integrity of the seal, the historical value expressed on it will also disappear.
Jiang Jiachang went on to say: "This seal is relatively perfect except for the printed text. At worst, Mr. Huang, you can also wear off the printed text and re-engrav the content you like. As long as the person who makes it is skilled, the overall aspect It shouldn't be affected much."
"never mind."
Huang Shanyi shook his head and said with a smile: "Actually, I snatched this seal from a friend's place a few days ago and thought it was a good idea..."
When I was talking about this, I saw the butler come in and whispered a few words to him.
Huang Shanyi gave a few instructions to the butler, and then said to everyone: "It is true that Cao Cao and Cao Cao are coming. My friend has come here now. Since I snatched his seal, he has been trying to get this seal. Take it back, if he knows there is a problem with this seal, he doesn't know how depressed he will be."
When they found out that this was the case, everyone lamented Huang Shanyi's good luck. As for his friend's depression, that's for sure. Whoever found something wrong with his beloved would not be in a good mood.
During the chat, Huang Shanyi's friend hurried in. This person was about the same age and figure as the Zeng star from Xiangjiang. After Huang Shanyi's introduction, Chu Chen learned that his name was He Lihang.
In fact, He Lihang, Jiang Jiachang, and Ying Mingxin also knew each other. After all, like the capital city, the circle of antiques is not big, and the area of Haojing is also relatively small. Generally, people with names and surnames are basically familiar with them.
After exchanging a few pleasantries, He Lihang saw the seal on the table, and his eyes seemed to be shining. Then, he ran to the table in twos and twos, grabbed the seal, and then seemed to be treating a loved one. Like a human being, he rubbed his face gently on the seal, so that everyone didn't know what to say.
After a while, seeing He Lihang not stopping, Huang Shanyi couldn't help laughing and said: "I said Lao He, isn't it just a seal, you don't need to be so exaggerated?"
He Lihang didn't care about this: "This feeling is incomprehensible to collectors like you who aim to invest."
Speaking of this, he finally came to his senses: "Hey, you are a little strange today. I have been calling you for the past two days, but you just don't agree to return the seal to me. Why are you so relieved to let me take it today? gone?"
Seeing that He Lihang had such deep affection for this seal, Huang Shanyi didn't know whether he should tell him about the problem with the seal.
Seeing Huang Shanyi's hesitation, He Lihang felt it was strange, but he didn't think much about it, let alone thinking that there was something wrong with his seal.
Then, he first put the seals away carefully, and then took out a box he brought, opened it and said: "Here, I brought you several seals this time, most of which are from famous artists in the Ming and Qing Dynasties. It’s carved, take a look at it, if you think it’s okay, it can be used as a ransom for this seal.”
While talking, Chu Chen and the others looked into the suitcase, and saw that there were many seals inside, and they were made of various materials, such as copper seals, wooden seals, stone seals, jade seals, etc., and also in various shapes. There are animal-shaped seals, follow-up seals, square seals, round seals and so on.
Huang Shanyi looked very curious, and picked up a animal-shaped seal. This seal is made of copper, with mottled surfaces, and some green copper embroidered spots, which is very ancient.
Yinnu is an auspicious beast, with its chest upright, its eyes wide open, its ears swayed back, its beard curly, its mouth tightly closed, and its expression solemn and solemn.The torso of Ruishou is straight and powerful, the tail is stretched back and curled up, and the whole body is decorated with striped geometric patterns with silver-stitched techniques, with a simple and chic style.
Thinking that this square seal is very good, Huang Shanyi asked, "What seal is this?"
He Lihang said with a smile: "This is the Fang Yuan seal that I managed to find for you."
What is "Printing"?Pledge, also known as "charge", "monogram", "signature", etc., refers to signing or drawing some kind of mark on official documents and contracts as a proof of trust.
Yiyin is a unique form of seal. It is not only different from jade seals, cast seals and seals in the Qin and Han Dynasties, but also different from literati seals after Ming and Qing Dynasties. The main difference between Yiyin and them is the difference in the printed characters.
During the Qin and Han Dynasties and the Ming and Qing Dynasties, seal script was mainly used for printing, while in the Yuan Dynasty, except for the seal cutting by literati represented by Zhao Mengfu and others, the popular regular script was mainly used for printing.
"Choose it for me?" Huang Shanyi seemed a little surprised when he heard this.
He Lihang said: "Of course, just look at the printed text."
(End of this chapter)
Now that the underside of this seal has been worn off, will the seal on the seal now be engraved by Wu Changshuo?Obviously the odds of this happening are very low.
Afterwards, Chu Chen observed carefully and found that although the printed text looked like it could be faked, it was slightly inferior to the main text on the side in terms of charm.
Don't think it's just a problem with the seal, this alone has a great impact on the value of the seal, and it's not just this, it's like superfluous, and it's not as valuable as when the seal is just worn off.
As for whether Huang Shanyi has bought at a loss, it depends on whether he knows about this matter. If he knows, he should not lose money.But judging from his attitude of striving for perfection when buying things, Chu Chen thinks it is more likely that he doesn't know.
When Chu Chen gave the seal to others, Huang Shanyi smiled and asked, "Mr. Chu, what do you think of this seal?"
Chu Chen said euphemistically: "Needless to say the material of the seal and the inscription on the side, it's just a pity that this seal has been polished before."
"Polished?" Huang Shanyi was quite happy at first, but when he heard the latter, he was a little stunned.
The others also heard this sentence, and hurried over to look at it. Since the polishers were of a relatively high level, they looked at it for a while before they realized that the printed surface had indeed been polished.Then the question arises, did Wu Changshuo feel that the engraving was not good, did it on purpose, or was it polished off by later generations?
Everyone thought about it, and felt that the latter possibility was more likely. First of all, in terms of the quality of Fang Tianhuang, it was impossible for Wu Changshuo to carve casually.Moreover, judging from the date on the inscription, when Wu Changshuo carved this seal, he was already a master of seal carving, and it was certainly impossible to make such a mistake.
Needless to say, the result is that nine out of ten of the current seals were re-engraved by later generations.
At this moment, Jiang Jiachang asked, "Young Master Chu, is this seal re-engraved?"
Chu Chen replied: "I think it should be engraved later, because the look of the inscription is wrong. We can feel it when we compare the inscription on the side."
For this point, except for Ying Mingxin, who is not very accomplished in calligraphy and painting, everyone else can more or less see it.
Knowing this result, Huang Shanyi seemed a little unbelievable, but he couldn't help but not believe it, which made him somewhat depressed, and said: "I really didn't pay attention to this matter, if I didn't find it now, I guess I can only It's a shame to be dumb. However, I have never encountered this kind of situation before."
Chu Chen said: "Actually, the seal is made by a famous artist, and the seal is worn off, but the phenomenon of the seal is still relatively common. For this kind of seal, some people will engrave the content they want. In addition, there are some good people who make up the same seal as the original. This kind of seal with real print and fake print is very easy to be confused in the market."
Zhao Qirui nodded and said: "I have heard of this kind of thing many years ago. Someone got a pair of Qi Baishi's seals. Unfortunately, the seals were worn off, but the seals were really preserved. So this person imitated Qi Baishi's The style was engraved on the original stone and sold to the cultural relics store. The cultural relics store failed to see through it, and bought it as a genuine product. In the end, it was spotted by an expert."
Hearing what Chu Chen and Zhao Qirui said, Huang Shanyi shook his head and sighed: "This kind of thing is really impossible to guard against, and you will fall into it if you are not careful. However, I don't know who rubbed off the original seal, what a waste of nature! "
"This kind of thing is more common."
Jiang Jiachang said: "Just like a friend of mine, he bought a Tianhuang seal at a relatively cheap price ten years ago. The button head is carved with a phoenix, and the word 'Wen Zuo' is written on the side. .This seal is a random seal, not very regular, and the name of the seal is a name he has never heard of."
"Moreover, although the 'Wenzuo' noted in the margin is similar to the name of Shangguan Zhou, a famous painter in the Qing Dynasty, it is known from other people that the character used by Shangguan Zhou is 'Wen Zuo', and he has never used Wenzuo. I thought that the seal might be owned by an ordinary literati, and it was of little value. So, my friend ground it into a square seal, and also ground the seal, leaving only the margin."
"The year before last, I happened to be a guest at his home with an expert on seal identification, so he took out the seal and wanted to identify the quality of the stone. The expert asked him why he had to grind off part of the button head, and said that the button head was carved Weifeng, the carving technique is superb, it should be everyone's work, it's a pity to wear it off like this."
"So, my friend told the reason. The expert was very regretful after hearing this. He said that the descendants of Shangguan Zhou sorted out its historical sites, introduced that Shangguan Zhou was written as Wenzuo, and also wrote Wenzuo. He also said that Shangguan Zhou Zeng Inscribed 'Wenzuo' when I made seals for others many times, the two characters on the side of my friend's seal are the same as those recorded in historical materials, and it should be the seal that Shangguan Zhou made for his friend."
"My friend regretted it, but fortunately he left the word 'Wen Zuo' on the side note, as a way of consoling himself..."
Chu Chen has heard many of the examples Jiang Jiachang mentioned, and many people regret it.
In fact, collecting seals can start from three aspects, namely: material, engraving, and characters (including seals and inscriptions).If one of the three is good, it has a certain collection value; if both or all of the three are good, it is even better.
In addition, when collecting old seals, it is important not to easily wear off the seals and margins.Because no matter what, it is always better to collect the original flavor. If the seal is worn off, in addition to destroying the integrity of the seal, the historical value expressed on it will also disappear.
Jiang Jiachang went on to say: "This seal is relatively perfect except for the printed text. At worst, Mr. Huang, you can also wear off the printed text and re-engrav the content you like. As long as the person who makes it is skilled, the overall aspect It shouldn't be affected much."
"never mind."
Huang Shanyi shook his head and said with a smile: "Actually, I snatched this seal from a friend's place a few days ago and thought it was a good idea..."
When I was talking about this, I saw the butler come in and whispered a few words to him.
Huang Shanyi gave a few instructions to the butler, and then said to everyone: "It is true that Cao Cao and Cao Cao are coming. My friend has come here now. Since I snatched his seal, he has been trying to get this seal. Take it back, if he knows there is a problem with this seal, he doesn't know how depressed he will be."
When they found out that this was the case, everyone lamented Huang Shanyi's good luck. As for his friend's depression, that's for sure. Whoever found something wrong with his beloved would not be in a good mood.
During the chat, Huang Shanyi's friend hurried in. This person was about the same age and figure as the Zeng star from Xiangjiang. After Huang Shanyi's introduction, Chu Chen learned that his name was He Lihang.
In fact, He Lihang, Jiang Jiachang, and Ying Mingxin also knew each other. After all, like the capital city, the circle of antiques is not big, and the area of Haojing is also relatively small. Generally, people with names and surnames are basically familiar with them.
After exchanging a few pleasantries, He Lihang saw the seal on the table, and his eyes seemed to be shining. Then, he ran to the table in twos and twos, grabbed the seal, and then seemed to be treating a loved one. Like a human being, he rubbed his face gently on the seal, so that everyone didn't know what to say.
After a while, seeing He Lihang not stopping, Huang Shanyi couldn't help laughing and said: "I said Lao He, isn't it just a seal, you don't need to be so exaggerated?"
He Lihang didn't care about this: "This feeling is incomprehensible to collectors like you who aim to invest."
Speaking of this, he finally came to his senses: "Hey, you are a little strange today. I have been calling you for the past two days, but you just don't agree to return the seal to me. Why are you so relieved to let me take it today? gone?"
Seeing that He Lihang had such deep affection for this seal, Huang Shanyi didn't know whether he should tell him about the problem with the seal.
Seeing Huang Shanyi's hesitation, He Lihang felt it was strange, but he didn't think much about it, let alone thinking that there was something wrong with his seal.
Then, he first put the seals away carefully, and then took out a box he brought, opened it and said: "Here, I brought you several seals this time, most of which are from famous artists in the Ming and Qing Dynasties. It’s carved, take a look at it, if you think it’s okay, it can be used as a ransom for this seal.”
While talking, Chu Chen and the others looked into the suitcase, and saw that there were many seals inside, and they were made of various materials, such as copper seals, wooden seals, stone seals, jade seals, etc., and also in various shapes. There are animal-shaped seals, follow-up seals, square seals, round seals and so on.
Huang Shanyi looked very curious, and picked up a animal-shaped seal. This seal is made of copper, with mottled surfaces, and some green copper embroidered spots, which is very ancient.
Yinnu is an auspicious beast, with its chest upright, its eyes wide open, its ears swayed back, its beard curly, its mouth tightly closed, and its expression solemn and solemn.The torso of Ruishou is straight and powerful, the tail is stretched back and curled up, and the whole body is decorated with striped geometric patterns with silver-stitched techniques, with a simple and chic style.
Thinking that this square seal is very good, Huang Shanyi asked, "What seal is this?"
He Lihang said with a smile: "This is the Fang Yuan seal that I managed to find for you."
What is "Printing"?Pledge, also known as "charge", "monogram", "signature", etc., refers to signing or drawing some kind of mark on official documents and contracts as a proof of trust.
Yiyin is a unique form of seal. It is not only different from jade seals, cast seals and seals in the Qin and Han Dynasties, but also different from literati seals after Ming and Qing Dynasties. The main difference between Yiyin and them is the difference in the printed characters.
During the Qin and Han Dynasties and the Ming and Qing Dynasties, seal script was mainly used for printing, while in the Yuan Dynasty, except for the seal cutting by literati represented by Zhao Mengfu and others, the popular regular script was mainly used for printing.
"Choose it for me?" Huang Shanyi seemed a little surprised when he heard this.
He Lihang said: "Of course, just look at the printed text."
(End of this chapter)
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