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Chapter 915 Fengtian
Chapter 915 Fengtian
Chen Mu recollected the meaning expressed before and after this letter, thinking about why Elizabeth would call herself Queen of France, and Zou Yuanbiao and others who were sitting next to him looked ashen, looking at Drake with unkind expressions.
You don't need to look at Chen Mu to know that most of the officials below think this seemingly equal letter is 'disrespectful', and it's not anyone's fault.
This is the collision of Chinese diplomacy and European diplomacy.
Under normal circumstances, the result of sending this letter to Wanli and not sending it to Wanli is the same.
Elizabeth sent someone to transmit the letter of credence in order to establish a European-style diplomatic relationship with the Ming Dynasty, which is impossible.
Chinese-Western diplomacy first tried various possibilities in the Ming Dynasty’s exchanges with the Dutch. The Dutch wanted to do business, but after being rejected by the government, they engaged in smuggling, and then clashed with the local pirate Zheng Zhilong, and became close to the Ming Dynasty. The Macau Portuguese made trouble, and they were brought down in a blink of an eye.
Even if the Forbidden City really establishes a connection, at most it will be played with as a tributary state in Chinese-style diplomatic relations. It may promote the progress of Ming Dynasty, but the English will never get their wish.
In the era that Chen Mu lived in the past, he was the biggest beauty fan in the whole country, and he also suffered from insufficient firepower phobia. Since he learned from the teacher, he had to learn that set thoroughly. Is British diplomacy equal?Is American diplomacy equal?
Outside of the civilized world where tribute exists, the only relationships between countries, between strong and weak, are annexation, stalemate, colonization and extinction.
For example, after the rise of England, which wants to trade now, all those that can trade with it will be annexed, all that can be colonized will be colonized, and all that can perish will perish. The rest cannot achieve the above three The countries of the means coexist in a stalemate.
The tributary system is the best, most civilized, and most benevolent system in regional hegemony from ancient times to the present. It is also an expedient for the peaceful coexistence of the strong and the weak.
The real fact is that in the era dominated by agriculture, there is no fertile land worth conquering, and no goods worth equal exchange.
To put it bluntly, there is no powerful country in the world in history that is not arrogant, and the arrogance of the Ming Dynasty is reflected in the establishment of a set of rules of "you give me face, I will give you candy" after getting tired of playing the trick of beating children .
If you are willing to pay tribute, you come to pay tribute, but you won’t earn any money anyway. The emperor is happy to give you something back to make a sacrifice. If you are not willing to pay tribute, you can just stay on the tree.
At least not if you don't do business with me, I'll fuck you, and you still claim that you are free trade.
There is no such thing as equality, it is nothing more than the strength of the strength, the strength is strong enough to fart, and it is more true to open your eyes and tell nonsense than the truth.
So American-style hegemony is a very normal thing. Although it is barbaric, even in the 21st century, is it possible for a small backward country to go to the yellow-haired commander and say "open the door, free trade"?
But now the English want to do business with Daming and give you 'safe passage and other much-needed privileges', is this normal?
Why do you say it is ugly?
But Chen Mu is very civilized.
"I already know the content of the letter. Your queen said that she wants to do business with Daming. It is beneficial to do business, but first of all, what is the population of your country?"
Derek, who has never been to school and only received a little theological education, can't answer this kind of question, not to mention that he made all the officials stare a little scared, and they can only turn their heads to look at the young but more knowledgeable of Francis Bacon.
The young former envoy's entourage to France did not disappoint the pirate leader's expectations, and replied respectfully: "Dear general, there are four to six million people in England."
He did a lot of preparatory work, saying: "Our village has a large number of family workshops, which produce cotton, linen, wool, clothing, glass, paper, leather, pottery, coal, salt, as well as copper, iron, and steel. Foods processed with grains."
"What kind of goods we provide is related to your country's needs. Of course, the most exported goods in Europe are wool and woolen goods. These two accounted for 80.00% of the total goods sold in England last year. Although the wool sold is more There are fewer and fewer, last year only sold more than 4000 bales of wool, but as many as 13 woolen wool.”
Chen Mu let out a long breath with his nose. To be honest, it not only made him feel relieved, but also admired his primitive accumulation.
Rest assured because England is not yet so strong, and admiration is because this primitive accumulation will make England stronger rapidly.
Why does Fei'er have a bad relationship with England?Because he wants to be King of England, why does he want to be King of England?Because he is at a disadvantage in trade... Spain's main product is wool, and so is England.
In the long-term competition, England began to accumulate strong production capacity, while Spain gave up its own production capacity and used silver and gold from the New World to continue its life, resulting in no other competitive commodities in the country.
There are political reasons, the insult of pirate plunder, and economic reasons, which lead to a war between the two countries.
In fact, the general trend of history is often felt by contemporary people, just as Zhang Juzheng took the position of chief assistant many years ago, the people of insight in the Ming Dynasty knew that he would become the chief assistant; People of insight can also perceive the footsteps of war.
"Da Ming will consider allowing merchants to trade with you, but this depends on whether the profit is appropriate. After all, China and England are far apart."
Chen Mu nodded slowly with the most sincere expression in his life, and asked, "Have you brought samples of the goods, and the prices of these goods are not here, but the prices of these goods in England."
Seeing that Drake and Bacon were in a hurry to argue, Chen Mu raised his hand and said, "If you brought samples, it may take some time before it arrives from Qilinwei Port. s price."
"Because all the goods you can produce are not very attractive to Daming, because we can produce, and Daming also has goods that you can't produce, and they can be sold in bulk. When I say bulk, I mean every transaction. It's like you sold all the wool last year. And as far as I know, you are not rich in gold and silver, so the trade will be done by means of barter."
"If your price is low, we will buy in bulk from England; if your price is high, we will sell in bulk to England. If the price is against us, no such trade will be concluded."
Bacon's face was flushed with anxiety, and he hesitated and said: "Our merchant ships can transport goods and trade with the Ming Empire, anywhere."
Chen Mu smiled, he shook his head, still very sincere.
"Let me tell you a few things. First of all, in the Mingxi agreement, all the land in the north of the New World belongs to Ming. Any country that tries to get involved will be attacked by the Mingxi coalition forces. The counterattack will include its European mainland, so no one should board to the northern lands."
"Secondly, you don't want to trade in the Gulf of Mexico. The land to the east of Mexico City is ruled by Ming and Xi, and the archipelago belongs to Spain. Given the relationship between England and Spain, your merchant ships will be attacked by Spain when they approach the archipelago. If you trade in the New World, then I will never see your merchant ships, so what difference does it make if you trade or not?"
"Thirdly, Ming ships can sail anywhere in the world, and there are many pirates in France. Since your monarch thinks she is the queen of France, let those pirates not provoke me. It doesn't matter if she can't control her." , I have no intention of meddling in the ownership of the French royal family, this will not affect our trade, I will send someone to tell the old man what the rules are, his pirates rob me of a few ships, and my people will burn some of his ports."
"Fourth, in view of the above three points, I think the best location for trade is in England. I tend to set up fixed commercial stations in England and Ireland. Merchants can travel freely in England and other countries, and ask the Queen to give me some advice. In response to the privileges that merchants desperately need, they purchase goods in your country; open ships call at the port once a year to sell a large number of goods."
"Fifth, and most importantly, Your Majesty is titled the Wanli Emperor of the Ming Empire or the Kingdom of Heaven, not the Khitan Great Khan, and there is a letter on the head. He has not been canonized by the Emperor, and he is not blessed by God. How can he be entrusted by God—— I hope these few things will be forwarded to the queen of your country as soon as possible."
(End of this chapter)
Chen Mu recollected the meaning expressed before and after this letter, thinking about why Elizabeth would call herself Queen of France, and Zou Yuanbiao and others who were sitting next to him looked ashen, looking at Drake with unkind expressions.
You don't need to look at Chen Mu to know that most of the officials below think this seemingly equal letter is 'disrespectful', and it's not anyone's fault.
This is the collision of Chinese diplomacy and European diplomacy.
Under normal circumstances, the result of sending this letter to Wanli and not sending it to Wanli is the same.
Elizabeth sent someone to transmit the letter of credence in order to establish a European-style diplomatic relationship with the Ming Dynasty, which is impossible.
Chinese-Western diplomacy first tried various possibilities in the Ming Dynasty’s exchanges with the Dutch. The Dutch wanted to do business, but after being rejected by the government, they engaged in smuggling, and then clashed with the local pirate Zheng Zhilong, and became close to the Ming Dynasty. The Macau Portuguese made trouble, and they were brought down in a blink of an eye.
Even if the Forbidden City really establishes a connection, at most it will be played with as a tributary state in Chinese-style diplomatic relations. It may promote the progress of Ming Dynasty, but the English will never get their wish.
In the era that Chen Mu lived in the past, he was the biggest beauty fan in the whole country, and he also suffered from insufficient firepower phobia. Since he learned from the teacher, he had to learn that set thoroughly. Is British diplomacy equal?Is American diplomacy equal?
Outside of the civilized world where tribute exists, the only relationships between countries, between strong and weak, are annexation, stalemate, colonization and extinction.
For example, after the rise of England, which wants to trade now, all those that can trade with it will be annexed, all that can be colonized will be colonized, and all that can perish will perish. The rest cannot achieve the above three The countries of the means coexist in a stalemate.
The tributary system is the best, most civilized, and most benevolent system in regional hegemony from ancient times to the present. It is also an expedient for the peaceful coexistence of the strong and the weak.
The real fact is that in the era dominated by agriculture, there is no fertile land worth conquering, and no goods worth equal exchange.
To put it bluntly, there is no powerful country in the world in history that is not arrogant, and the arrogance of the Ming Dynasty is reflected in the establishment of a set of rules of "you give me face, I will give you candy" after getting tired of playing the trick of beating children .
If you are willing to pay tribute, you come to pay tribute, but you won’t earn any money anyway. The emperor is happy to give you something back to make a sacrifice. If you are not willing to pay tribute, you can just stay on the tree.
At least not if you don't do business with me, I'll fuck you, and you still claim that you are free trade.
There is no such thing as equality, it is nothing more than the strength of the strength, the strength is strong enough to fart, and it is more true to open your eyes and tell nonsense than the truth.
So American-style hegemony is a very normal thing. Although it is barbaric, even in the 21st century, is it possible for a small backward country to go to the yellow-haired commander and say "open the door, free trade"?
But now the English want to do business with Daming and give you 'safe passage and other much-needed privileges', is this normal?
Why do you say it is ugly?
But Chen Mu is very civilized.
"I already know the content of the letter. Your queen said that she wants to do business with Daming. It is beneficial to do business, but first of all, what is the population of your country?"
Derek, who has never been to school and only received a little theological education, can't answer this kind of question, not to mention that he made all the officials stare a little scared, and they can only turn their heads to look at the young but more knowledgeable of Francis Bacon.
The young former envoy's entourage to France did not disappoint the pirate leader's expectations, and replied respectfully: "Dear general, there are four to six million people in England."
He did a lot of preparatory work, saying: "Our village has a large number of family workshops, which produce cotton, linen, wool, clothing, glass, paper, leather, pottery, coal, salt, as well as copper, iron, and steel. Foods processed with grains."
"What kind of goods we provide is related to your country's needs. Of course, the most exported goods in Europe are wool and woolen goods. These two accounted for 80.00% of the total goods sold in England last year. Although the wool sold is more There are fewer and fewer, last year only sold more than 4000 bales of wool, but as many as 13 woolen wool.”
Chen Mu let out a long breath with his nose. To be honest, it not only made him feel relieved, but also admired his primitive accumulation.
Rest assured because England is not yet so strong, and admiration is because this primitive accumulation will make England stronger rapidly.
Why does Fei'er have a bad relationship with England?Because he wants to be King of England, why does he want to be King of England?Because he is at a disadvantage in trade... Spain's main product is wool, and so is England.
In the long-term competition, England began to accumulate strong production capacity, while Spain gave up its own production capacity and used silver and gold from the New World to continue its life, resulting in no other competitive commodities in the country.
There are political reasons, the insult of pirate plunder, and economic reasons, which lead to a war between the two countries.
In fact, the general trend of history is often felt by contemporary people, just as Zhang Juzheng took the position of chief assistant many years ago, the people of insight in the Ming Dynasty knew that he would become the chief assistant; People of insight can also perceive the footsteps of war.
"Da Ming will consider allowing merchants to trade with you, but this depends on whether the profit is appropriate. After all, China and England are far apart."
Chen Mu nodded slowly with the most sincere expression in his life, and asked, "Have you brought samples of the goods, and the prices of these goods are not here, but the prices of these goods in England."
Seeing that Drake and Bacon were in a hurry to argue, Chen Mu raised his hand and said, "If you brought samples, it may take some time before it arrives from Qilinwei Port. s price."
"Because all the goods you can produce are not very attractive to Daming, because we can produce, and Daming also has goods that you can't produce, and they can be sold in bulk. When I say bulk, I mean every transaction. It's like you sold all the wool last year. And as far as I know, you are not rich in gold and silver, so the trade will be done by means of barter."
"If your price is low, we will buy in bulk from England; if your price is high, we will sell in bulk to England. If the price is against us, no such trade will be concluded."
Bacon's face was flushed with anxiety, and he hesitated and said: "Our merchant ships can transport goods and trade with the Ming Empire, anywhere."
Chen Mu smiled, he shook his head, still very sincere.
"Let me tell you a few things. First of all, in the Mingxi agreement, all the land in the north of the New World belongs to Ming. Any country that tries to get involved will be attacked by the Mingxi coalition forces. The counterattack will include its European mainland, so no one should board to the northern lands."
"Secondly, you don't want to trade in the Gulf of Mexico. The land to the east of Mexico City is ruled by Ming and Xi, and the archipelago belongs to Spain. Given the relationship between England and Spain, your merchant ships will be attacked by Spain when they approach the archipelago. If you trade in the New World, then I will never see your merchant ships, so what difference does it make if you trade or not?"
"Thirdly, Ming ships can sail anywhere in the world, and there are many pirates in France. Since your monarch thinks she is the queen of France, let those pirates not provoke me. It doesn't matter if she can't control her." , I have no intention of meddling in the ownership of the French royal family, this will not affect our trade, I will send someone to tell the old man what the rules are, his pirates rob me of a few ships, and my people will burn some of his ports."
"Fourth, in view of the above three points, I think the best location for trade is in England. I tend to set up fixed commercial stations in England and Ireland. Merchants can travel freely in England and other countries, and ask the Queen to give me some advice. In response to the privileges that merchants desperately need, they purchase goods in your country; open ships call at the port once a year to sell a large number of goods."
"Fifth, and most importantly, Your Majesty is titled the Wanli Emperor of the Ming Empire or the Kingdom of Heaven, not the Khitan Great Khan, and there is a letter on the head. He has not been canonized by the Emperor, and he is not blessed by God. How can he be entrusted by God—— I hope these few things will be forwarded to the queen of your country as soon as possible."
(End of this chapter)
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