Randomly pick a stand-in every day
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Then, she shrugged her shoulders with a helpless look, and continued:
"Sure enough, Luo Li, you have really read it carefully. Yes, it shows that you have enough knowledge reserves to take my substitute course. Otherwise, after hearing my 'rebellious' cloud speech, ordinary fans will definitely I jumped up violently like I was stepped on my foot, and I couldn't go on with the lecture at all~"
"...Who are you mocking?"
"Don't mind, I just posted a reliable video with a rebellious point of view and got sprayed, stains, I shouldn't be lazy and cut out those evidences, next time I have to think about my speech..."
The blond girl muttered with a displeased look, saying she was talking to herself, but the volume was completely audible to those around her.
"...May I take the liberty to ask what exactly you said?"
"Huh? It's almost like, Jotaro didn't get weakened in the next few movies, but he wasn't that strong in the first place?"
"... remember to use a more euphemistic way to express such words, and it is best to put them at the end of the video."
Seeing her innocent face, what else could Raleigh say?
……
After answering a strange question in this way, Raleigh seemed to have passed some kind of test inexplicably, and was led into the room by the circle, where he began to conduct a special substitute explanation course, while other onlookers were treated as "Taiyun" You don’t understand, you don’t understand” and turned it into a one-on-one class.
The point is, Raleigh didn't remember when he agreed to take tutoring, did he?
Hey, forget it, anyway, she was indeed the one who recommended you to enter the pit, so let's see what she has to say...
Just like that, I followed Rong’s house for some unknown reason. The room’s setting didn’t look girlish, but it was very close to the interior scene of the fifth part, like a small Italian-style villa; and Rong went straight to the red leather chair beside the bed. Sitting down, Misaka sister standing behind her nodded to Raleigh, then opened the window, and a breeze blew into the room.
Uh, let’s be blunt, the scene is basically the same as the position Giorno sat in when he finally became the godfather of the gang...
Looking at Rong who folded his hands and leaned back, Luo Li sighed helplessly, and moved a wooden chair to sit opposite her: "Oh, let's talk, it's good to play with you..."
"Well, thanks. But it wouldn't be right to treat my lectures as fun—I promise, it will definitely help you."
Perhaps because she wanted to fit in with the scene, she was much more serious this time. She took out a thin wooden stick from her sleeve, pointed at the whiteboard that Misaka sister helped to push, and began to tell:
"Since it's you, I don't bother to make so many jokes. Let's be honest: JOJO has never been a work that cares about [logic]. He pays more attention to atmosphere, characters and themes like traditional literature. Logic and settings are completely for the plot. , will never be set to restrict the plot.”
correct.
Whether it is a person who vomited half a catty of razor blades and his blood turned yellow, he can be resurrected with full blood just by gnawing on a frog, or even run to play football with children immediately without any problem, and there is no bleeding wound on his body ;
An office worker with a broken hand and a broken body can run several times faster than four big men, dragging blood all the way, no one notices, and completes arrest, coercion and face-changing operations in an instant, and escapes without a trace trace……
There are plenty of examples where plausibility really doesn't matter that much in this story.
"Readers love this work, so it is naturally feasible to explain the logic in it in a reasonable way; but it may not be a good thing to use the logic I filled in as the original fact and deny the doubts that do exist. At least it is certainly not conducive to discussing some issues.
Because, no matter how detailed the logic of filling is, it is not something that the original work actually presents to you, so everyone can have their own ideas, so there is no standard answer! "
As Rong said, he tapped on the blackboard with his teaching stick the picture of God Atum restraining Platinum Star to "read palmistry":
"It's like here, some people say it's the suppression of mental power, some people think it's just a bluff, some people say that Jotaro didn't do anything because he was afraid of killing people... But no matter how you say it, the real picture thrown in front of you is, this has no combat power The stand-in easily held down Platinum, completely in the upper hand."
"What do you want to say? Please give me an important point first."
"I mean—a stand-in is something freer, Raleigh."
"?"
Freedom means...
"Forget the setting, you can really understand the setting - because this work has never paid attention to the setting. Think again, my point is that almost all doubles can have more than 'two' Ability!"
"!?"
What, although I have imagined a lot, I really didn't expect Rong's conclusion to be... Where did I start?
"The first reaction must be that you don't understand, right? However, there are indeed two types of substitute abilities, or two completely different directions. All substitutes have at least two abilities at the same time, but not all of them have practical uses— — the difference between that and the real difference between the third avatar you can use and the subsequent avatars!"
Regardless of his shocking words, Rong pointed forward like a famous detective who discovered the truth, and declared:
"You only know that the stand-in settings of the third generation are not perfect, but I'm going to tell you what they lack! This new angle will definitely give you a deeper understanding of things like [stand-ins]!"
After finishing speaking, she flipped the writing board over violently, and the white board that turned several times stopped on the other side, showing a few large characters:
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"Structural Ability" and "Specific Ability"
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ps: Darby’s scene is really the most outrageous in JO3. According to the atmosphere at the time, even if he can blow up platinum with one punch, it seems completely reasonable. It’s almost like deliberately letting the opponent propose to play the game Same.
Although this is essentially the result of the combination of two stand-ins, the tool-man stand-in "Top Sax" who made potholes in the ground added a lot of B-installation stunts to Darby
But just relying on the effect of building momentum, two non-combat doubles can hold down so many strong people. There is basically no more powerful scene in the whole series. It's a pity that they didn't hold back, and they still became the target of Euler's boxing.
Chapter 537 Every Stand Has Two Abilities (4k)
"Is the structure and...specific? The standard of your judgment, could it be..."
Probably because he had thought about these issues many times. Raleigh, who didn't quite understand Rong's intentions, always felt half-understood suddenly after seeing these two titles.
So, is this the way of classification?If you understand it this way...
"Shh~ don't disturb my train of thought. I've heard this all, how about listening to me after class?"
Seeing the change in Raleigh's expression, Donut gestured lightly, putting his index finger in front of his lips.
"Okay, tell me, I really want to hear it."
Raleigh straightened up after expressing her approval, and took the double lecture a lot seriously. Maybe she could really tell him something useful.
"In short, [Structural Ability] refers to the performance based on the appearance, material and structure of the avatar itself, while [Specific Ability] is a more supernatural effect that is not necessarily related to the appearance of the avatar."
It was very useful for Rong to be recognized. Standing up and pointing at the writing board, the white board can actually switch screens like a slide show, showing corresponding information as she narrates.
"To put it more vividly, the structural ability is "because this double looks like this, so it should be able to do it", liquid can flow, fishhooks can hook things, it is natural; and the special ability is "although I don't know why , but in short, this stand-in can do "things, like pressing the thumb to make objects explode, touching dead objects to turn them into life. "
There is no pause in the process of giving examples, although she did not prepare the speech early but mentioned it casually, and the reference she said also points to a clear point. After all, there are a large number of cases in the stories of JOJO in both cases.
"How, if you look back at this classification, can you understand what I mean by [every substitute can have at least two abilities]?"
"...So that's how it is."
Raleigh, indeed realized something.
Is that so... structure and specificity?
Yes, if it is understood in this way, the design of some substitutes is actually...
"The whiteboard stand-in that everyone often uses to talk and laugh, the most famous one is [Silver Chariot], right? Because he seems incapable, and even the swordsmanship is practiced by himself. But to be honest, it's only because of him Staying in the protagonist group is more famous, there are too many substitutes who have 'no special abilities' like him."
After asking the question, Raleigh didn't really ask for an answer. Rong knew that he already understood, so he continued following this train of thought:
"These avatars are not [incapable] as generally believed, but [only have structural capabilities]! For example, the gray tower worms that can only fly around and stick out their tongues, and the extremely evil squadrons that attack with guns and weapons are themselves liquid The water necklace... These things are not so much abilities, but are they simply determined by their form itself? There is no specificity at all."
Speaking of which, Rong changed the subject and changed the picture on the blackboard to [Heart Lock]:
"Of course, Xiangyin also has a double that [only has special abilities]. This is indeed less, it doesn't even have a complete body, and it is only presented as a part of the ability. If this kind of thing is not hung under the name of a double, It doesn’t seem much different to just call it normal superpowers, right? Maybe that’s why there are far fewer of these categories.”
While introducing, Rong switched a few of these stand-ins that only included abilities to show, such as the God Kunum who changed his appearance, which seemed to be much less popular.
"These are extreme cases. A normal double has both body and ability. This is exactly what I mean by 'at least two abilities'. For example, the most basic thing is that a humanoid double is itself a structural ability. The structure allows this stand-in to attack with fists and feet, but the non-human form can't do this~"
Speaking of this, she suddenly turned sideways and released her substitute:
"A complete stand-in is like this. For my [Melancholy Blues], it has a very elastic material that can absorb almost all impacts. This is the effect of the body structure; and the ability to invert makes objects touching it Step back a few seconds and this superpower has nothing to do with what it looks like."
"The combination of the two, together with basic parameters such as the strength and speed of the stand-in, is a complete stand-in... So, Raleigh, do you understand now that the third stand-in with incomplete settings is missing something? "
"..."
Raleigh raised his hand, released his real substitute [Major Arcana], and looked at the tarot cards in his hand:
"Is it because...the focus is entirely on the 'structure' side?"
Sure enough, the perception of using these Tarot substitutes all the time, combined with the theoretical support given by Shangrong at this time, many fragmentary questions floating around in Luo Li's mind suddenly integrated together at this moment, and a complete train of thought was drawn and answer.
Why are the abilities of many third-generation bodies so awkward, weak or strong but extremely difficult to use, and it is difficult to choose the direction of evolution...
Is there actually a real gap between the performance of the original and the subsequent generations of stand-ins?
"Three parts, especially the stand-ins in the Tarot chapters, almost all of their abilities are structural. It is the murlocs who sneak into the brain because of their sea battles and tinyness. Even the protagonist group itself is like this. The fluid state can be drawn into A person with a sword cuts people with a sword, and a pair of powerful fists so he can pull or pull! These are all...determined by the shape!"
Yes, that's the feeling, the stand-in of Sanbu almost doesn't have the "super power" of the offspring!
Even if their abilities are specific, they must be highly bound to the structure. They are special abilities based on the form of a substitute, so there are "lovers" like "by destroying other people's brain nerves in the brain. A sand sculpture stand-in without any logic to bounce back the damage the body suffered several times!
"In this era, what exactly is a double has not been determined at all - the author is still looking for inspiration and direction, so there are things like the sun and power that don't look like doubles at all?"
"Correct ~ Sure enough, people who have personally experienced it will feel more real. What you said is absolutely correct. The avatars in the third part have not yet developed a complete [specificity], and they are not super powerful enough. At that time, Mr. Araki was still trying to make it for him. Each double's ability activates 'find an excuse', allowing them to appear in a way that seems more logical."
Quan'er smiled with satisfaction, and spread his hands helplessly:
"It's a pity that the substitute itself is supernatural. Trying to rationalize it will create even more unreasonable things and make things even weirder. Mr. Ultimate Creature seems to have gradually understood——
Why would he find logic for an illogical superpower?Since he figured this out, more complete and diversified stand-in abilities began to appear on the stage, and I think this kind of style switching between explaining and not explaining is probably just that! "
"【The World】!" "【The World】!"
In an instant, the same name came out of the mouths of the two people completely overlapped. They looked at each other and smiled, feeling happy for the mutual understanding:
"There is no doubt that it is the final boss world. The ability to stop time does not give any explanation, and don't care about exceeding the speed of light. Those are all rumors, and no one has really produced any evidence. But this is not the point , at least the special ability of stopping the world is finally not an additional effect attached to the structure, which means that he is at the same level of perfection as the subsequent fourth and fifth generations, and he is not behind the times~!"
"Hmm... so Platinum Star, who learned to stop time in the final battle, also broke through the original version that only used its own form to fight, and came to the style of later generations."
Raleigh nodded in agreement, and continued along the topic, but suddenly found a problem:
"Zu, but if you look at it this way, the entire Tarot double has really achieved a card that has 'unrelated to its special ability and its own appearance'... Is there only a hermit besides the world?!"
The Hermit's Purple Almighty's reading and writing really doesn't match its wattle-like shape. It is a genuine stand-in with both abilities, but this is the one that didn't suffer from the version. It's a bit...
"Exactly, so the upper limit of the hermit is very high. It didn't suffer from the early appearance, but took advantage of it and gained a lot of functionality. It is also a good card worthy of attention for you?"
In addition to the lecture, Quaner did not forget that Tarot cards are Raleigh's own skills, so he stopped here to say a few more words, hoping to give some useful suggestions:
"I think this theory should have a great effect on your [Great Arcana]. When you use or strengthen the substitute you have drawn in the future, try to consider it from two angles separately, and keep their principles in mind. The specificity exists based on the appearance of the stand-in, which may be more conducive to your construction of suitable tactics."
"……Been taught a lesson."
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