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Chapter 189 Roosevelt: I want to implement the imperial examination system in America! Heading east and west in both directions!
Such a comparison.

Zhu Houzhao understood more.

All the smart people on their side have become officials.

Because they left the imperial examination path open.

And because there is no imperial examination in the West, most other smart people have to take other paths, but instead let them take the broad road?
[Mercedon Roosevelt: Actually, I think what President Jefferson said is very reasonable. You can also use productivity as an example. Wisdom is also a kind of productivity, and the East puts more wisdom on the road to entering power institutions. Because our way to power in the West is blocked, more wisdom can only be used in other aspects. 】

[Such differentiated investment allowed the East to become a unified dynasty very early, and it ruled the East stably for many years, with a very mature and terrifying centralized power system. 】

[On our side, wisdom has been invested in other aspects. Especially after the advent of the era of hot weapons, some people used wisdom to improve and invent muskets, Gatling, and Maxim. 】

Is wisdom also a kind of productivity?

Zhu Houzhao felt hit again.

Then I was further relieved that in terms of power, Li Dongyang, Liu Jian, etc. have really reached the pinnacle, and even in the history of power struggle for thousands of years, they can further push forward new innovations.

Available in other ways.

For example: In the current Jinling Baobao trading market.

They seem clumsy when it comes to things in this unfamiliar field.

But Zhu Houzhao also believed that this just caught them off guard. When they get smart in the Jinling Baobao trading market, he may not be able to play it.

Just like... he almost couldn't defeat Xu Yunmiao and was almost caught by Xu Yunmiao.

[American Taizong Jefferson: Roosevelt’s summary is very good. Wisdom is also a kind of productivity. The changes in our human society from the Middle Ages to today, especially the changes in the past hundred years, are due to the wisdom trends led by scientists such as Sir Newton, Hooke, Leibniz, etc. who represent the pinnacle of human wisdom, and have led a large number of scholars at the bottom. Contribute wisdom and create. 】

[Just like the simplest writing, we didn’t have paper here before. Recording something can only be recorded on the rock wall, but now we not only have paper, but also books and specialized subjects. These subjects have promoted everyone to become smarter...]

Zhu Houzhao understood the example Jefferson gave.

Qin Shihuang still used bamboo slips when reviewing memorials.

But they used paper.

This obviously proves that wisdom is an expression of productivity.

At present, there are obviously enough scholars and smart people in the Ming Dynasty.

But they still couldn't think of a way to increase steel production. It was obviously the official-oriented thinking of the Ming Dynasty officialdom that absorbed too much wisdom.

Scholars also disdain to participate in this kind of craftsmanship.

Also, it turns out that muskets can shoot a hundred rounds of bullets in a short period of time. How many years have muskets been around? They should have been around for more than a hundred years.

The United States has only been a country for a hundred years, and it seems that Grant has never seen such a powerful Maxim.

In just a few decades, there has been such a big change from the muskets of the Washington era to the muskets of the Cleveland era.

Obviously, they invested a lot in folk wisdom to achieve this change.

The scholars of the Ming Dynasty... began to fight for power and gain and listen to music when they became officials.

Forget it, don’t think about it anymore, don’t think about it anymore.

[Li Xuan, Xizong of the Tang Dynasty: So, in a sense, our imperial examination system has absorbed too much collective wisdom, does it do more harm than good? Shouldn't we attract so many scholars and encourage them to use their wisdom in other fields? But...this isn't right either. The harm of aristocratic families is probably greater than that of scholars. 】

Zhu Houzhao wanted to abolish the imperial examination system for a while.

But as soon as he had this idea, he thought... No!
The imperial examination system started in the Sui and Tang Dynasties was itself used by the emperor to suppress the monopoly of aristocratic families.

Moreover, if he does not attract smart people to the court and allows these smart people to be used by wealthy families, the emperor will be even more in danger.

Slow!

This is Datang!

It seems that it cannot be brought into Datang!
There are already enough scholars in the Ming Dynasty, but they have formed a force that is even more exaggerated than that of aristocratic families.

Instead, wealthy families and even relatives of vassal kings were suppressed.

Only their family is the only one!

At present, it seems that the collective wisdom mastered by the imperial court can be appropriately guided to another aspect.

Zhu Houzhao has felt the invisible historical inertia and the huge centralized system created by successive dynasties unconsciously repairing loopholes.

That's right, it's a centralized system.

A very mature centralized system, Roosevelt summed it up well.

But to sum up, Zhu Houzhao also quickly discovered a problem.

He himself is the biggest beneficiary of the centralized system itself. If he wants to promote decentralization... is that equivalent to self-undermining?
[American Taizong Jefferson: It seems that His Majesty Li has already felt troubled. Your Majesty Li, I feel that you... shouldn't deny yourself so quickly. We in the United States are not necessarily that outstanding. Your imperial examination system is more fair than ours! Especially in terms of safeguarding the overall interests of the country, it is much better than ours. 】

[And your centralization of power is also something Cleveland and Roosevelt want but cannot have. 】

[If you really realize that wisdom is also a kind of productivity, you can use your supreme centralized influence to artificially separate and interfere with the wisdom productivity, which can also slowly promote the change of the productivity of your entire society. His Majesty Louis XVI and others are still a centralized monarchy, which has not affected the development of France's productive forces. 】

Seeing Zhu Houzhao falling into a state of self-denial, Jefferson gave him precise advice from a third party perspective.

[American Yingzong Cleveland: Yes, the sun never sets on the British. They are also a monarchy, and it still does not affect their development. 】

As soon as this emotion came out, Cleveland couldn't help but sigh.

[Merceron Roosevelt: Yes! Your Majesty Li, your advantage is centralization of power! You can completely concentrate your efforts on big things, gather the wisdom of scale, and mobilize various resources. This is an unimaginable advantage! On the contrary, although we have various resources... we cannot concentrate our efforts efficiently because the power is too dispersed! 】

[We still have to find a way to centralize power now! And centralization of power is the most dangerous behavior! 】

[Maybe... I want to try your fair imperial examination system in the United States. This may be able to greatly alleviate the dissatisfaction of various groups of people in society. In fact, I feel it is much more effective than simply ostracizing the Chinese... …]

[As soon as this measure comes out, I'm afraid my approval rate will rise rapidly... At the same time, it may also be my talisman? 】

Roosevelt unabashedly envied Zhu Houzhao's centralized power model, and even felt that the imperial examination system was not a bad idea if it was beneficial and practical at present.

As soon as this wonderful idea came out, Roosevelt couldn't help but fantasize about it.

[American Yingzong Cleveland: Roosevelt, you... don't really want to use the Chinese imperial examination system in our United States, do you? Our officers already have Pendleton Act screening. 】

The corner of Cleveland's mouth twitched, feeling that Roosevelt was a little outrageous. How could he be influenced by the East?

[Merceron Roosevelt: President Cleveland, the Pendleton Act was only a test for serving civilian officials. The Eastern imperial examination system allows ordinary people to participate. I felt like I could disrupt the current inequality, so why not give it a try? Are you, President Cleveland, satisfied with our current bureaucracy? 】

Roosevelt expressed his thoughts unabashedly, and Cleveland was immediately blocked.

[Tang Xizong Li Xuan: Roosevelt, if you really want to implement the imperial examination system in your country, I may be able to give you some suggestions. After all, your suggestions have also helped me. If you want more ways to centralize power, I have them here too. 】

Zhu Houzhao perked up and gave advice immediately.

This is outrageous. I hope to change to the West.

Roosevelt actually wanted to get closer to them.

Zhu Houzhao was dumbfounded by this situation of two-way travel between the East and the West, but he naturally had no objection to helping Roosevelt.

At least, Roosevelt's suggestion that centralization of power would facilitate big things made him suddenly enlightened as to why they should give up their advantages.

[Mercy Roosevelt: I won’t be polite. In short, thanks to Your Majesty Lee for your Eastern wisdom plan, I feel that the future of the United States is much brighter. 】

The two even flattered each other.

[American Yingzong Cleveland: Well... I wish you all success! So, I think this topic can be discussed here? Is there anything else that anyone needs to add to the discussion on the issue of increasing national power? 】

Cleveland couldn't stand it any longer and changed the subject.

[ Mercer Lincoln: Let me also add that after listening to President Jefferson’s explanation of education and wisdom, I would also add that this aspect is also meaningful to workers. Workers are not just farmers who can just change. If skilled workers are needed, a relatively complete vocational education system must be established. 】

[For example, America’s first compulsory education law was passed in Massachusetts in 1852. This legislation requires that all children must receive 12 weeks of education, 6 of which must be consecutive. Subsequently, each state has also enacted its own compulsory education laws, requiring children between the ages of 6 and 16 to receive adequate education. education... This has produced many literate and educated workers for us. 】

Lincoln immediately talked about the issue of education from the perspective of skilled workers.

[Li Xuan, Emperor Xizong of Tang Dynasty: Huh? Compulsory education...for all children, what does that mean? 】

Zhu Houzhao discovered unfamiliar vocabulary again. [Mercy Lincoln: Compulsory education is... The American country pays to provide these children with free education, so that we can achieve a great improvement in collective wisdom. 】

Lincoln immediately explained.

[Tang Xizong Li Xuan: Wait...all children aged 6 to 16 years old, the state allows them to study for free? Is this too much money? 】

Zhu Houzhao immediately felt that it was an exaggeration. He didn't know how many young people there were in Ming Dynasty, but it was definitely a big number. It would be impossible for Ming Dynasty to provide free education to these people.

He felt America's invisible strength again.

During Lincoln's time, there were at least 30 million people in the country.

None of them in Ming Dynasty have reached this level.

[Meshizu Lincoln: This money is better than being embezzled by those officials. Compared with the money they corrupted, this should be only a small part. 】

However... Lincoln silenced Zhu Houzhao again with just one word.

[American Yingzong Cleveland: President Lincoln has said this, and I would like to add something. The reason why we developed so quickly after the civil war is actually related to the fact that these compulsory primary and secondary schools trained a large number of people, and they easily entered factories to work. 】

[American Taizong Jefferson: I feel relieved to see this. Education really has to start with the children, and this is the America I want. If you are lucky enough to have a Napoleon, that would be even better. 】

[American Taizu Washington: Yes, yes, that’s good. We in the United States should have our own education system. I already want the children to have a happy childhood. 】

[Meixuanzong Jackson: I, who have never received education in my life, still envy these children when I see this. Lincoln, are they really free admission? 】

Jackson couldn't help but sigh.

[Mercy Zu Lincoln: President Jackson, it’s not free, but he also charges a small percentage. But we guarantee that almost most children can go to school and receive education. 】

Naturally, Lincoln didn't dare to guarantee it.

This aspect is indeed something that Ming Dynasty needs to improve on.

Zhu Houzhao was not in the mood to participate in this topic, but he secretly swore that no matter how hard Ming Dynasty endured this, it would not be inferior to the United States.

The children of Ming Dynasty must also receive education!
[American Yingzong Cleveland: Well, President Lincoln added his point of view. Do other presidents have anything to add? 】

Cleveland is back on topic again.

[Meixuanzong Jackson: I don’t think so. Officials really have nothing to say. It would be better if they do not cause trouble to the progress of the country. 】

[American Taizong Jefferson: Regarding education and students, I have nothing to add. 】

[Merezu Louis XVI: I feel that on this topic... we in France seem to have nothing to say. Did military school education produce a Napoleon? 】

[American Ying Zong Cleveland: Haha, Your Majesty Louis XVI, if you don’t have a topic, I will find one for you... You can talk about your French women, dwarfs... foreigners, after all, they are the ones who made your France become great. 】

Cleveland couldn't help teasing Louis XVI.

[Milejo Louis XVI: Cleveland, I am not in the mood to joke with you. 】

Louis XVI was speechless.

[American Taizu Washington: It seemed that I was the only one who didn’t say anything...but I found that I didn’t say anything either. It seems that I can't participate in this topic. 】

Washington rescued Louis XVI.

[American Yingzong Cleveland: This topic does not force everyone to discuss their opinions. Group leader, I suggest... this topic ends here, is that okay? 】

[I talk about this issue from the perspective of population. The view is that the greater the population, the stronger the country will be, and this extends to high-yield food. Roosevelt added the positive effects of population growth and the liberation of productivity. 】

[Then President Grant talked about the role of soldiers and distinguished between military iterations in the era of cold weapons and hot weapons. 】

[President Lincoln supplemented the role of workers in the growth of national power. 】

[President Jefferson talked about the high-quality population and collective wisdom brought about by students and education. 】

[His Majesty Li contributed to Dongfang’s plan for population selection. 】

[In addition, President Washington, President Jackson, and His Majesty Louis XVI also actively interacted with each other. 】

[I feel that everyone has discussed the points that need to be discussed around the topic. 】

[You can give some points appropriately. 】

Cleveland ended the topic, made a summary, and directly took credit from Zhu Houzhao.

[Supreme Group Leader: Yes! Everyone can evaluate who has outstanding performance on this topic and whose shared views are useful and rewarding. I will give points according to everyone's opinions. 】

Zhu Houzhao had to admit that he gained a lot from this topic and was very satisfied.

But the procedures that need to be followed still need to be followed.

[Mei Yingzong·Cleveland: Okay, the above is what the group leader meant. Let’s all comment. 】

[First of all, please evaluate what I said: you can evaluate it in three levels: very satisfied, satisfied, and good. 】

Cleveland went straight into scoring.

[Meliezu Louis XVI: Population, food, and potatoes? I think what you said about Cleveland is good, and I learned a lot. Let me give you a satisfactory evaluation]

Louis XVI commented.

[American Taizu Washington: Very satisfied. 】

The group conducted an orderly evaluation.

Zhu Houzhao was once again satisfied with Cleveland's overall mobilization ability and actively used his trumpet to give objective evaluations.

[American Yingzong Cleveland: Group leader, the results have appeared. According to everyone's evaluation: everyone is quite satisfied with the views of me, Roosevelt, Lincoln, Grant, President Jefferson, and His Majesty Li Zhan. 】

The results came out quickly, and at least the atmosphere in the group was harmonious.

[Supreme Group Leader: OK! You, Roosevelt, Lincoln, Grant, and Jefferson each get 20 points! Li Xuan, Emperor Xizong of the Tang Dynasty, was a guest and was not included in the score. 】

[Others Louis XVI, Washington, and Jackson who participated in the topic received 5 points! 】

Zhu Houzhao happily gave the points. Anyway, the points were issued from him, and all interpretation rights rested with him.

The main thing is to mobilize everyone to actively participate in the topic.

[Meliezu Louis XVI: Group leader, can you set some topics that I can participate in, not so advanced... Now one point is equivalent to a hundred pounds of gold! I'm a little jealous seeing how much gold they got in Cleveland. 】

[American Taizu Washington: That’s true. Group leader... can the topic setting be simpler? 】

After the group members got the points, Louis XVI and Washington, who had less points, couldn't help but complain.

After all, they have realized the value of points.

[Supreme Group Leader: Of course this group leader will consider it. You should also think about the topic yourself. 30 points will be awarded for adopting the topic. 】

Zhu Houzhao once again fully mobilized the enthusiasm of group members.

[Merceron Roosevelt: I’m curious again, what is the use of these points? 】

[Meili Zong Grant: Yes, what are these points for? 】

Roosevelt and Grant, who had scored points, were curious again.

[American Yingzong Cleveland: Don’t worry, points can save your life. I will explain to you later. 】

[Group leader, we don’t have much time, let’s move on to the second topic. By the way, how many topics are there this time? 】

Cleveland, which scored points, was encouraged and returned to the topic again.

[Supreme group leader: There are two topics for this round. This second topic is also very simple. Talk about a person who you think is influential in your country or the world as a whole, and tell his main deeds. 】

Zhu Houzhao raised the second topic, which still focused on human factors.

He wants to know as much as possible about the deeds of powerful people, and he also believes that history is driven by people.

(End of this chapter)