super energy power
Chapter 441 Order Problem
"If the associated shipyards can't get enough orders, they can sign a general order with Dahua Shipbuilding. The core of the giant general shipbuilding method is to manufacture in large quantities, reduce costs, and stabilize profits." What Su Cheng said is very clear. , even if the shipyards can’t get the orders themselves, Dahua’s overall demand alone can feed them.
However, Sioux City's self-confidence cannot infect others.
Rong Shangguo looked skeptical, but he didn't refute Su Cheng because of face.
Sun Daofu swayed and couldn't sit still.
He came to make up his mind not to speak, but Su Cheng's words were too much.
Sun Daofu had no choice but to stand up and said: "Su Dong, you can't release satellites when negotiating a contract. We can produce 30 tons in half a year and 100 million tons in the next year. According to the three giant general shipbuilding factories you mentioned, the production capacity of that year The output is 3 million tons, which does not include Dahua’s own production capacity and the production capacity of the other 300 main factories. The annual order of CSSC is only so much! The demand for domestic ships is only so much, let alone whether it can do this Production capacity, if this capacity is really achieved, how will other shipyards survive?"
He is the general manager of CSSC, so he naturally hopes that all the companies under him can survive in good health.He welcomes healthy competition, but not vicious competition.
In his view, what Sioux City did was malicious competition.If the eight shipyards of China Shipbuilding survived and the other shipyards under China Shipbuilding died, what would become of him, the general manager?
The entire CSSC Group currently has accumulated orders of only 500 million tons, which is the production capacity in the next two to three years.
" "And take Dahua Industry's current plan. 500 million tons is probably not enough for their annual consumption.
As a result, this year's sales are high, so next year will we go to the northwest wind?
Development and Reform Commission officials.He is also very familiar with various domestic data, so he cannot doubt Sun Daofu's words.
Goro couldn't see Su Cheng being suspected the most, and he didn't care about the identity of the other party. He said loudly: "Who said that Dahua Shipbuilding will make other shipyards unable to survive? The orders we have received now are all 2 tons. Most of the above-mentioned ships are abroad, how has China Shipbuilding ever heard that Dahua has a large number of domestic bids?"
"Are they all 2-ton ships? Most of them are abroad?" Sun Daofu didn't quite believe it.
Su Cheng smiled.Dahua said: "For ships below 2 tons, Dahua Shipbuilding will basically not participate in the bidding. After the orders received before are completed or transferred out, Dahua Shipbuilding will stop using construction methods such as the block shipbuilding method. Focus on In the final assembly."
Sun Daofu was still skeptical: "We only do final assembly and assembly. Wouldn't the total profit be too low?"
In terms of profit margin, the profit of final assembly is of course much higher than that of the whole ship itself.But in terms of total profit, it is still more self-made.After all, the final assembly and distribution needs to transfer profits to the general manufacturing plant.
Given the current state of domestic clothing companies, Sun Daofu actually cares more about total profits.Because the number of orders they got is relatively small, and most of them are small boats.
Sun Daofu does not think that Sioux City will completely abandon the whole shipbuilding.
.. "" Su Cheng had the completely opposite idea, and said with a smile: "As long as the order is made, the total profit of the final assembly will be higher instead."
"That still goes back to the issue of the order."
"We lowered the customer's cost and naturally got more orders."
"Ships are very expensive. Customers don't just talk to Cheng Lai. The requirements of many foreign customers do not make money at all..." The boss of Southeast Shipyard was full of bitterness when he talked about this issue.
Sun Daofu calculated with his fingers for a while, and said: "Dahua has released 10 general section factories. According to such requirements, it can produce tens of millions of tons of general section per year, including the consumption of three domestic general section enterprises. With a total section of 3 million tons, Dahua's final assembly and assembly this year will exceed 100 million tons, which is 700 ships...it's too difficult..."
If it is a Chinese shipping company 15 years or later, there is no need to pick it up like this.At that time, China's shipbuilding industry easily received more than 1000 million ship orders every year, and it was normal to hold orders of 4000 to [-] million.
Even the current Korean companies have started to make efforts in 87, and after five years, they can reach the level of [-] million tons per year.This is also due to the transfer of the world shipbuilding industry.
However, China Shipbuilding did not seize this opportunity at all.Their eyes are still on the country, expecting to borrow the way of administrative monopoly to get higher profits, as long as they complete the tasks assigned by the central government, they will be satisfied.
In the process of international bidding, Rong Shangguo's performance is the performance of CSSC.Their conservative and profit calculation methods cannot keep up with the thinking of shipowners, and occasionally they can get orders for a few ships "the 440th order problem of super energy powers". Relying on state foreign exchange subsidies, they may not necessarily be able to make money.
As for ship design, ship equipment, etc., CSSC lags far behind.
Compared with emerging factories, the burden of CSSC is extremely heavy.But for all the instruments, meters and equipment that can be used on ships, they hope to use the factories under their own group.With the level of Chinese manufacturing in the 90s, shipowners are naturally quite unwilling.
It can be said that whether it is price, service or product quality, CSSC has fallen behind the mainstream of the world.
At this time, even if Dahua Industrial is just a copycat factory, it is more vibrant than their tail.
Listening to Sun Daofu's words, Su Cheng said pitifully: "It's not as much as you counted. The average ship is 4 tons, and less than 0 ships have 700 million tons. This does not include super large special ships, such as marine ships. Floating oil storage vessel." Since COSCO Shipyard gave up the good relationship with Dahua under the pressure of CSSC, the resources they got from Dahua Industry are also decreasing, and the labor cooperation for offshore engineering equipment has gradually disappeared. .Otherwise, in the past, offshore floating storage vessels were all processed and manufactured by COSCO Shipyard.
"0 ships, does Dahua have an order for 0 ships?" Sun Daofu repeated the number twice.
Su Cheng just smiled and said, "0 ships is the goal for next year. In the second half of this year, according to the requirements of the factories in the general section, we only need to prepare orders for 60 ships."
He lowered some goals, and Sun Daofu suddenly felt that he had got the point, and hurriedly said: "So, Dahua currently has an order for 60 ships?"
Sun Daofu doesn't believe in the 60 "super energy power" ships.With 6 months remaining, 60 boats means 10 boats per month, or one boat for 3 days.
What kind of concept is this? A factory under CSSC may not be able to build a 3-ton giant ship in three months.
Especially those small and medium-sized shipyards, some of which only have ship repair business left, even so, it is impossible to repair a ship in 3 days?
A shipyard that has only been established for a few years surpasses the entire CSSC Group?No one in China Shipbuilding is willing to believe such a thing unless he is insane.
Sioux City began to pay attention to the domestic shipbuilding industry when Dahua Shipbuilding started working on offshore drilling platforms.It was just that in the past, Dahua Shipbuilding minimized its share in the manufacturing industry and focused on the technology development of offshore drilling platforms.
Now, after really setting foot in this circle, Su Cheng felt a heavy suffocation.
60 4-ton ships have a load capacity of about 250 million tons, which is not even enough to replace 10% of the needs of Chinese companies.
That's it, Sun Daofu, a dignified ministerial-level official, still showed an expression of disbelief.
Suddenly, Su Cheng had no desire to speak.
He raised his head slightly, and said to Zhang Chao: "You tell Mr. Sun and everyone about the current order status of Dahua Shipping Industry."
"Okay." Zhang Chao cleared his throat, and faced the crowd sitting upright, a little proud, but also a little sighed: "Dahua Shipbuilding currently has a total of 116 orders, with a total tonnage of more than 500 million tons. The number of ships that need to be handed over for the "Entertainment Show" is (ships, with a gross tonnage of more than 100 million tons..."
Sun Daofu had a hazy feeling of looking at his own data.
The number of orders in hand, the number of deliveries, etc., are very close to those of CSSC.
The difference is that CSSC has dozens of shipyards and hundreds of thousands of workers, while Dahua Shipbuilding has more than 1 people and has only been established for a few years.
What Sun Daofu couldn't understand was that Dahua Shipbuilding had just delivered 9 ships, so where did it get so many orders?
More than one person had the same question as him. The general manager of Pingjiang Shipyard was the first to ask: "In recent months, the global demand for ships has not been 50 ships. Where did Dahua Shipbuilding come from? An order for a ship?"
"Acquired."
"what?"
"We acquired 3 shipyards and took all the orders they held into our pocket." Sioux City clearly spelled out the words.
The boatman was stunned for a while.
To kill them, no one thought of this method.
Domestic shipping companies, let alone acquired ,% of the equity, dare not release it easily under high pressure...
As for a wholly-owned acquisition and an order from the other party, domestic shipping companies have never thought about such a thing.
In the 15 years of reform and opening up, CSSC has tried to go out and earn foreign exchange from the country, but it has never thought about how to get a sum of foreign exchange to buy foreign shipyards.
For state-owned enterprises in the 90s, this was almost impossible.
How much does it cost to acquire a shipyard? Is $1000 million not enough, $3000 million or $5000 million?How many billion yuan is that?
Moreover, how to manage the acquired foreign factories?None of the workshop directors in the factory knew English.
Even after searching the factory, there are not many people who are fluent in English.You can't be sent abroad as a branch manager just because of this, right?
The leaders of CSSC present here are completely confused.
The talents of the National Development and Reform Commission didn't care about these things. A young man stood up and asked, "Su Dong, this is capital operation, right? How did you think of buying a foreign shipping company?"
……
... (To be continued.)
ps: It was supposed to be updated last night, but it was written too hastily, so it was re-edited in the end.
Try to update as much as possible today.
……
However, Sioux City's self-confidence cannot infect others.
Rong Shangguo looked skeptical, but he didn't refute Su Cheng because of face.
Sun Daofu swayed and couldn't sit still.
He came to make up his mind not to speak, but Su Cheng's words were too much.
Sun Daofu had no choice but to stand up and said: "Su Dong, you can't release satellites when negotiating a contract. We can produce 30 tons in half a year and 100 million tons in the next year. According to the three giant general shipbuilding factories you mentioned, the production capacity of that year The output is 3 million tons, which does not include Dahua’s own production capacity and the production capacity of the other 300 main factories. The annual order of CSSC is only so much! The demand for domestic ships is only so much, let alone whether it can do this Production capacity, if this capacity is really achieved, how will other shipyards survive?"
He is the general manager of CSSC, so he naturally hopes that all the companies under him can survive in good health.He welcomes healthy competition, but not vicious competition.
In his view, what Sioux City did was malicious competition.If the eight shipyards of China Shipbuilding survived and the other shipyards under China Shipbuilding died, what would become of him, the general manager?
The entire CSSC Group currently has accumulated orders of only 500 million tons, which is the production capacity in the next two to three years.
" "And take Dahua Industry's current plan. 500 million tons is probably not enough for their annual consumption.
As a result, this year's sales are high, so next year will we go to the northwest wind?
Development and Reform Commission officials.He is also very familiar with various domestic data, so he cannot doubt Sun Daofu's words.
Goro couldn't see Su Cheng being suspected the most, and he didn't care about the identity of the other party. He said loudly: "Who said that Dahua Shipbuilding will make other shipyards unable to survive? The orders we have received now are all 2 tons. Most of the above-mentioned ships are abroad, how has China Shipbuilding ever heard that Dahua has a large number of domestic bids?"
"Are they all 2-ton ships? Most of them are abroad?" Sun Daofu didn't quite believe it.
Su Cheng smiled.Dahua said: "For ships below 2 tons, Dahua Shipbuilding will basically not participate in the bidding. After the orders received before are completed or transferred out, Dahua Shipbuilding will stop using construction methods such as the block shipbuilding method. Focus on In the final assembly."
Sun Daofu was still skeptical: "We only do final assembly and assembly. Wouldn't the total profit be too low?"
In terms of profit margin, the profit of final assembly is of course much higher than that of the whole ship itself.But in terms of total profit, it is still more self-made.After all, the final assembly and distribution needs to transfer profits to the general manufacturing plant.
Given the current state of domestic clothing companies, Sun Daofu actually cares more about total profits.Because the number of orders they got is relatively small, and most of them are small boats.
Sun Daofu does not think that Sioux City will completely abandon the whole shipbuilding.
.. "" Su Cheng had the completely opposite idea, and said with a smile: "As long as the order is made, the total profit of the final assembly will be higher instead."
"That still goes back to the issue of the order."
"We lowered the customer's cost and naturally got more orders."
"Ships are very expensive. Customers don't just talk to Cheng Lai. The requirements of many foreign customers do not make money at all..." The boss of Southeast Shipyard was full of bitterness when he talked about this issue.
Sun Daofu calculated with his fingers for a while, and said: "Dahua has released 10 general section factories. According to such requirements, it can produce tens of millions of tons of general section per year, including the consumption of three domestic general section enterprises. With a total section of 3 million tons, Dahua's final assembly and assembly this year will exceed 100 million tons, which is 700 ships...it's too difficult..."
If it is a Chinese shipping company 15 years or later, there is no need to pick it up like this.At that time, China's shipbuilding industry easily received more than 1000 million ship orders every year, and it was normal to hold orders of 4000 to [-] million.
Even the current Korean companies have started to make efforts in 87, and after five years, they can reach the level of [-] million tons per year.This is also due to the transfer of the world shipbuilding industry.
However, China Shipbuilding did not seize this opportunity at all.Their eyes are still on the country, expecting to borrow the way of administrative monopoly to get higher profits, as long as they complete the tasks assigned by the central government, they will be satisfied.
In the process of international bidding, Rong Shangguo's performance is the performance of CSSC.Their conservative and profit calculation methods cannot keep up with the thinking of shipowners, and occasionally they can get orders for a few ships "the 440th order problem of super energy powers". Relying on state foreign exchange subsidies, they may not necessarily be able to make money.
As for ship design, ship equipment, etc., CSSC lags far behind.
Compared with emerging factories, the burden of CSSC is extremely heavy.But for all the instruments, meters and equipment that can be used on ships, they hope to use the factories under their own group.With the level of Chinese manufacturing in the 90s, shipowners are naturally quite unwilling.
It can be said that whether it is price, service or product quality, CSSC has fallen behind the mainstream of the world.
At this time, even if Dahua Industrial is just a copycat factory, it is more vibrant than their tail.
Listening to Sun Daofu's words, Su Cheng said pitifully: "It's not as much as you counted. The average ship is 4 tons, and less than 0 ships have 700 million tons. This does not include super large special ships, such as marine ships. Floating oil storage vessel." Since COSCO Shipyard gave up the good relationship with Dahua under the pressure of CSSC, the resources they got from Dahua Industry are also decreasing, and the labor cooperation for offshore engineering equipment has gradually disappeared. .Otherwise, in the past, offshore floating storage vessels were all processed and manufactured by COSCO Shipyard.
"0 ships, does Dahua have an order for 0 ships?" Sun Daofu repeated the number twice.
Su Cheng just smiled and said, "0 ships is the goal for next year. In the second half of this year, according to the requirements of the factories in the general section, we only need to prepare orders for 60 ships."
He lowered some goals, and Sun Daofu suddenly felt that he had got the point, and hurriedly said: "So, Dahua currently has an order for 60 ships?"
Sun Daofu doesn't believe in the 60 "super energy power" ships.With 6 months remaining, 60 boats means 10 boats per month, or one boat for 3 days.
What kind of concept is this? A factory under CSSC may not be able to build a 3-ton giant ship in three months.
Especially those small and medium-sized shipyards, some of which only have ship repair business left, even so, it is impossible to repair a ship in 3 days?
A shipyard that has only been established for a few years surpasses the entire CSSC Group?No one in China Shipbuilding is willing to believe such a thing unless he is insane.
Sioux City began to pay attention to the domestic shipbuilding industry when Dahua Shipbuilding started working on offshore drilling platforms.It was just that in the past, Dahua Shipbuilding minimized its share in the manufacturing industry and focused on the technology development of offshore drilling platforms.
Now, after really setting foot in this circle, Su Cheng felt a heavy suffocation.
60 4-ton ships have a load capacity of about 250 million tons, which is not even enough to replace 10% of the needs of Chinese companies.
That's it, Sun Daofu, a dignified ministerial-level official, still showed an expression of disbelief.
Suddenly, Su Cheng had no desire to speak.
He raised his head slightly, and said to Zhang Chao: "You tell Mr. Sun and everyone about the current order status of Dahua Shipping Industry."
"Okay." Zhang Chao cleared his throat, and faced the crowd sitting upright, a little proud, but also a little sighed: "Dahua Shipbuilding currently has a total of 116 orders, with a total tonnage of more than 500 million tons. The number of ships that need to be handed over for the "Entertainment Show" is (ships, with a gross tonnage of more than 100 million tons..."
Sun Daofu had a hazy feeling of looking at his own data.
The number of orders in hand, the number of deliveries, etc., are very close to those of CSSC.
The difference is that CSSC has dozens of shipyards and hundreds of thousands of workers, while Dahua Shipbuilding has more than 1 people and has only been established for a few years.
What Sun Daofu couldn't understand was that Dahua Shipbuilding had just delivered 9 ships, so where did it get so many orders?
More than one person had the same question as him. The general manager of Pingjiang Shipyard was the first to ask: "In recent months, the global demand for ships has not been 50 ships. Where did Dahua Shipbuilding come from? An order for a ship?"
"Acquired."
"what?"
"We acquired 3 shipyards and took all the orders they held into our pocket." Sioux City clearly spelled out the words.
The boatman was stunned for a while.
To kill them, no one thought of this method.
Domestic shipping companies, let alone acquired ,% of the equity, dare not release it easily under high pressure...
As for a wholly-owned acquisition and an order from the other party, domestic shipping companies have never thought about such a thing.
In the 15 years of reform and opening up, CSSC has tried to go out and earn foreign exchange from the country, but it has never thought about how to get a sum of foreign exchange to buy foreign shipyards.
For state-owned enterprises in the 90s, this was almost impossible.
How much does it cost to acquire a shipyard? Is $1000 million not enough, $3000 million or $5000 million?How many billion yuan is that?
Moreover, how to manage the acquired foreign factories?None of the workshop directors in the factory knew English.
Even after searching the factory, there are not many people who are fluent in English.You can't be sent abroad as a branch manager just because of this, right?
The leaders of CSSC present here are completely confused.
The talents of the National Development and Reform Commission didn't care about these things. A young man stood up and asked, "Su Dong, this is capital operation, right? How did you think of buying a foreign shipping company?"
……
... (To be continued.)
ps: It was supposed to be updated last night, but it was written too hastily, so it was re-edited in the end.
Try to update as much as possible today.
……
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