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Chapter 572 Tang An VS Ma Yun!
Chapter 572 Tang An VS Ma Yun! (The first update asks for a subscription!)
"Congratulations to Mr. Ma, he was elected as the economic figure of the year for the second time, this."
In a reception room of the hotel, Tang An and Ma Yun sat side by side.
Tang An first gave a few words of compliment. Although CCTV's economic figure of the year is not as good as Fortune magazine's global leaders, it is known as the Oscar of China's economic circles, and it is very important in China.
Moreover, it was sponsored by CCTV, and the [-]-member judging panel was also professional and authoritative. Among them were selected economic figures of the year, financial media executives, heads of well-known domestic business schools, well-known domestic economists and entrepreneurs.
It's not that you can nominate if you are rich and famous, and the company is big enough. It is also very important for the nomination of entrepreneurs.
So far, no entrepreneur has ever made a mistake.
In 06, the CEO of Gome became the richest man in the country. In the same year, he was investigated for alleged illegal loans. Although nothing was found out, CCTV still excluded him from the list of candidates.
But what should come will still come, and the richest man Huang went in in 08.
Even in the next few years, only one economic figure of the year will have an accident, and he was the boss of the Huaguo Gold Group who was elected last year. In two years, he will be involved in the earthquake in the officialdom of Jinxi.
Anyone with any commercial violations will not be nominated. Basically, if you can be elected, it can prove that you and this company have a good reputation and are relatively clean.
Facing Tang An's compliment, Ma Yun didn't care, waved his hands and smiled.
"Tang Dong, you don't need to be humble. With the development speed of Hantang Media, you will be able to stand in the position of Mr. Lei next year."
Lei Jun is the new entrepreneur of the year this year, and next year he will be able to stand in the position of Ma Yun, the top ten economic figures of the year.
Tang An said with a smile, "I don't dare to think about it. Xiaomi has achieved a valuation of 40 billion US dollars in less than three years, and it is estimated to reach [-] billion US dollars next year."
Ma Yun said, "Tang Dong has been in business for four years and has a net worth of more than 200 billion, which is no worse than Xiaomi."
This is not wrong, Xiaomi has 40 billion U.S. dollars in three years, and Tang An has more than 200 billion U.S. dollars in four years.
However, in terms of potential, Xiaomi still has a lot of potential to tap, and Hantang Media is already the largest film and television company in China, which is incomparable.
After talking about business for a while, Ma Yun went straight to the point.
"Tang Dong, you are a professional filmmaker. Now the box office of a single domestic film has reached one billion yuan, and the annual box office is nearly 200 billion. Every year is a new level. Do you think that in the next three, five, or eight years, by 2020? , How big can the film market be?"
After hearing this, Tang An smiled in his heart.
As expected of a master of cake painting, first tell me how big the market is, and then say that you can't eat this piece of cake, follow me, and take you to eat big cake.
Tang An smiled and said, "In ten years, the domestic box office will exceed [-] billion."
Ma Yun's tone froze, Tang An said the number he wanted to say first.
He didn't expect Tang An to have such a big expectation for the film market. It was only 12 billion in 180, and it could reach 2020 billion in 1000.
Seeing Tang An's expression didn't seem like he was guessing or reporting a high number casually, Ma Yun began to re-examine Tang An.
Although the total domestic box office was 8 billion 15 years ago, it has doubled by 12 times now, but this is not the case.
Ma Yun smiled noncommittally, "Director Tang, are you so confident? You must know that after the film market matures, the speed of development will only get slower and slower. The total box office in North America four years ago was 106 billion U.S. dollars. It’s just $108 billion, and there’s almost no increase.”
Tang Andao, "The population in China is four times that of North America. The average movie ticket in North America is 4 US dollars, 8 RMB, but there are 52 billion moviegoers, with an average of 13.5 movies per person per year.
In China, it is about 30 yuan, and the number of movie viewers is 6 million in a year, with an average of 0.46 movies per person per year.
Not to mention that each person watches 3.7 movies a year, as long as each person watches 2.5 movies a year, the domestic total can exceed 1000 billion. "
Tang An opened his mouth and came up with a lot of numbers, and looked at Ma Yun with a smile after speaking.
How could such a trivial matter be difficult for Ma Yun, which of the Eighteen Arhats in the team had followed him for more than ten years in a fool.
If he didn't show his skills, the team members went to other places to make a fortune, and no one followed him, so Ma Yun couldn't figure it out by himself.
Ma Yun continued, "Tang Dong's idea is good. Our country has a large population, and no one buys an extra ticket every year. That is also a remarkable figure."
He first affirmed Tang An's statement, chatting about cooperation, you can't just talk to others.
Then he said, "However, the North American film market has developed for 100 years, and domestic films have only been commercialized for more than ten years. It will take time to become legalized. Compared with Western countries, the ticket price is still relatively expensive. The audience who are willing to enter the cinema is still Few."
Tang An said, "If the ticket price can be lowered, the current blockbuster movies generally cost 50 yuan a ticket. If it only sells for more than a dozen or 20 yuan, some audiences who do not have high income but love movies will most likely choose to go to the cinema to watch it. .”
Ma Yun shook his head, "Ticket prices are set by the state, and movie theaters can adjust them randomly. It is impossible to drastically reduce prices."
Tang An said with a smile, "Mr. Ma, we should believe in miracles in the Internet age. Nothing is impossible. Last year and the year before last, the "thousand group war" in the group buying industry allowed many people to spend more than ten yuan in a good western restaurant. Paying for a steak, the taxi-hailing app that became popular two months ago allows users to take a taxi for less than a taxi.
Three years ago, in Room 807 of Yingu Building not far from Jinshan headquarters, Li Wanqiang’s father brought a pot of millet porridge. Lei Jun, Huang Jiangji, Lin Bing, and Zhou Guangping each made a bowl of millet porridge. Established in this way, who would have thought that the valuation could reach 40 billion in just three years.
And you Ma Dong, many people said you were a liar back then, looking back now, isn’t this all a miracle created by the Internet. "
Ma Yun was taken aback by Tang An's long speech, and this was one of the few times that he became the "educated" party during face-to-face conversations.
However, from Tang An's words, Ritter also understood that group buying and taxi-hailing software are both platform subsidies.
Since the ticket price cannot be determined, the ticketing platform can provide subsidies.
And Tang An acquired Nuomi.com.
Tang An is not afraid to reveal it in advance, anyway, the Spring Festival is less than a month away.
One month is enough to catch everyone by surprise
Ma Yun stopped worrying about this, and changed the subject, "Tang Dong has a wide range of investments. The Internet industry is full of flowers, and investors like you are needed now."
Tang An shook his head, "Investment is not easy either, it would be great if one of the [-] emerging Internet companies can survive the A round.
Last year, when I voted for Angel Round Didi, the founder Cheng Wei talked to me last year and said that one day a group of taxi drivers rushed up, dropped a smartphone on the ground, and yelled: Liar, you Didi Disoft has more than ten megabytes a day, but there is not a single order.
Cheng Wei was a little confused, and it took him a long time to realize that the driver was talking about traffic.
Mobile phone traffic charges are so high now, and it’s not as good as the previous 2G network. Many drivers leave the software on all day long, and their mobile phones are shut down due to arrears. "
"You have to subsidize phone bills for drivers, not just passengers." As an investor, Ma Yun immediately pointed out the problem.
"Mr. Ma really hit the nail on the head." Tang An praised.
"Cheng Wei originally wanted to charge each driver a three-yuan installation fee, but now he wants to subsidize the traffic fee instead.
But there are no customers, and sooner or later the driver will not use Didi again if he has no business.
So I suggested to him to send people around the Third Ring Road to take a taxi with Didi software every day, which would cost thousands of yuan almost every day.
After two months, Angel Wheel ran out of money and the driver stayed, but there were still no customers.
We have no choice, and I am not afraid of burning money, but we can’t burn money meaninglessly. Cheng Wei also found all mainstream investment institutions, including Ah Li, but none of them were willing to invest money. "
"Then how did you do it later?" Ma Yun asked curiously.
Today's Didi is an ordinary emerging Internet company. There are many such companies in the country, and Ma Yun has not yet caught the eyes of Ma Yun, and he doesn't know much about them.
"God helped him." Tang An sighed.
"In November last year, there was a heavy snowfall in Beijing, and many office workers couldn't get a taxi at all, so they began to try Didi Taxi, which they had never used.
On that day, there were 12 orders in Beijing, and then it started to get on the right track. In December, Zhu Xiaohu from GSR Ventures found Cheng Wei and wanted to invest 200 million US dollars. "
Ma Yun nodded, "Luck is also a necessary factor for success. Director Tang found another good project."
"I hope I can survive the A round, but I invested another 200 million US dollars." Tang An said.
A snowstorm revived Didi, which was on the verge of bankruptcy, and was valued from less than 2000 million yuan in the angel round to [-] million US dollars in the A round.
Of course, Tang An wanted to follow suit, and continued to invest 200 million US dollars to let Zhu Xiaohu go, and the total shares reached 38.18%.
The A round can be monopolized by one person, but after the B round, other capital must be introduced, otherwise Didi will wait to be killed quickly.
Tang An and Ma Yun chatted here for more than half an hour. They talked about everything from the Internet to real estate, from domestic to foreign countries.
Even after hearing Tang An's talk about the scenery of Vatnajökull in Iceland, Ma Yun said that he would definitely go back to the cinema to watch "Interstellar" next summer. If it is so beautiful, he would consider going there.
The two men chatted blindly for nearly an hour, but it was not interesting. Tang An lowered his head and glanced at the time, it was almost 10 o'clock.
Ma Yun smiled and said, "It's getting late, I'm really sorry to delay Tang Dong for so long."
"It is not an opportunity for ordinary people to have a long talk with Chairman Ma, and I have benefited a lot from it."
After some politeness, Tang An left.
Then Ma Yun's secretary Lin Qian walked in.
"Chairman, are you going back now?" Lin Qian asked.
"Let's go."
Ma Yun shook his head and sat up from the sofa.
Seeing him like this, Lin Qian thought for a while and asked, "Did your talk with Director Tang not go well?"
Ma Yun said with a smile, "We talked about the film industry for 3 minutes at the beginning, and then we said something serious."
Lin Qian was taken aback for a moment, she didn't expect that Tang Dong, who was so young, could not follow Ma Yun's rhythm in the conversation.
She still remembered how she agreed to be Ma Yun's secretary at the beginning, and clearly remembered those two sentences:
I hope you can stay, see more, feel more.Give me a chance, and give yourself a chance to learn more, and then I will support you no matter what decision you make.
It was just such ordinary two sentences, without much enthusiasm, without promising anything else, but there seemed to be a magic power in Ma Yun's words at that time, which made people believe him without thinking.
(End of this chapter)
"Congratulations to Mr. Ma, he was elected as the economic figure of the year for the second time, this."
In a reception room of the hotel, Tang An and Ma Yun sat side by side.
Tang An first gave a few words of compliment. Although CCTV's economic figure of the year is not as good as Fortune magazine's global leaders, it is known as the Oscar of China's economic circles, and it is very important in China.
Moreover, it was sponsored by CCTV, and the [-]-member judging panel was also professional and authoritative. Among them were selected economic figures of the year, financial media executives, heads of well-known domestic business schools, well-known domestic economists and entrepreneurs.
It's not that you can nominate if you are rich and famous, and the company is big enough. It is also very important for the nomination of entrepreneurs.
So far, no entrepreneur has ever made a mistake.
In 06, the CEO of Gome became the richest man in the country. In the same year, he was investigated for alleged illegal loans. Although nothing was found out, CCTV still excluded him from the list of candidates.
But what should come will still come, and the richest man Huang went in in 08.
Even in the next few years, only one economic figure of the year will have an accident, and he was the boss of the Huaguo Gold Group who was elected last year. In two years, he will be involved in the earthquake in the officialdom of Jinxi.
Anyone with any commercial violations will not be nominated. Basically, if you can be elected, it can prove that you and this company have a good reputation and are relatively clean.
Facing Tang An's compliment, Ma Yun didn't care, waved his hands and smiled.
"Tang Dong, you don't need to be humble. With the development speed of Hantang Media, you will be able to stand in the position of Mr. Lei next year."
Lei Jun is the new entrepreneur of the year this year, and next year he will be able to stand in the position of Ma Yun, the top ten economic figures of the year.
Tang An said with a smile, "I don't dare to think about it. Xiaomi has achieved a valuation of 40 billion US dollars in less than three years, and it is estimated to reach [-] billion US dollars next year."
Ma Yun said, "Tang Dong has been in business for four years and has a net worth of more than 200 billion, which is no worse than Xiaomi."
This is not wrong, Xiaomi has 40 billion U.S. dollars in three years, and Tang An has more than 200 billion U.S. dollars in four years.
However, in terms of potential, Xiaomi still has a lot of potential to tap, and Hantang Media is already the largest film and television company in China, which is incomparable.
After talking about business for a while, Ma Yun went straight to the point.
"Tang Dong, you are a professional filmmaker. Now the box office of a single domestic film has reached one billion yuan, and the annual box office is nearly 200 billion. Every year is a new level. Do you think that in the next three, five, or eight years, by 2020? , How big can the film market be?"
After hearing this, Tang An smiled in his heart.
As expected of a master of cake painting, first tell me how big the market is, and then say that you can't eat this piece of cake, follow me, and take you to eat big cake.
Tang An smiled and said, "In ten years, the domestic box office will exceed [-] billion."
Ma Yun's tone froze, Tang An said the number he wanted to say first.
He didn't expect Tang An to have such a big expectation for the film market. It was only 12 billion in 180, and it could reach 2020 billion in 1000.
Seeing Tang An's expression didn't seem like he was guessing or reporting a high number casually, Ma Yun began to re-examine Tang An.
Although the total domestic box office was 8 billion 15 years ago, it has doubled by 12 times now, but this is not the case.
Ma Yun smiled noncommittally, "Director Tang, are you so confident? You must know that after the film market matures, the speed of development will only get slower and slower. The total box office in North America four years ago was 106 billion U.S. dollars. It’s just $108 billion, and there’s almost no increase.”
Tang Andao, "The population in China is four times that of North America. The average movie ticket in North America is 4 US dollars, 8 RMB, but there are 52 billion moviegoers, with an average of 13.5 movies per person per year.
In China, it is about 30 yuan, and the number of movie viewers is 6 million in a year, with an average of 0.46 movies per person per year.
Not to mention that each person watches 3.7 movies a year, as long as each person watches 2.5 movies a year, the domestic total can exceed 1000 billion. "
Tang An opened his mouth and came up with a lot of numbers, and looked at Ma Yun with a smile after speaking.
How could such a trivial matter be difficult for Ma Yun, which of the Eighteen Arhats in the team had followed him for more than ten years in a fool.
If he didn't show his skills, the team members went to other places to make a fortune, and no one followed him, so Ma Yun couldn't figure it out by himself.
Ma Yun continued, "Tang Dong's idea is good. Our country has a large population, and no one buys an extra ticket every year. That is also a remarkable figure."
He first affirmed Tang An's statement, chatting about cooperation, you can't just talk to others.
Then he said, "However, the North American film market has developed for 100 years, and domestic films have only been commercialized for more than ten years. It will take time to become legalized. Compared with Western countries, the ticket price is still relatively expensive. The audience who are willing to enter the cinema is still Few."
Tang An said, "If the ticket price can be lowered, the current blockbuster movies generally cost 50 yuan a ticket. If it only sells for more than a dozen or 20 yuan, some audiences who do not have high income but love movies will most likely choose to go to the cinema to watch it. .”
Ma Yun shook his head, "Ticket prices are set by the state, and movie theaters can adjust them randomly. It is impossible to drastically reduce prices."
Tang An said with a smile, "Mr. Ma, we should believe in miracles in the Internet age. Nothing is impossible. Last year and the year before last, the "thousand group war" in the group buying industry allowed many people to spend more than ten yuan in a good western restaurant. Paying for a steak, the taxi-hailing app that became popular two months ago allows users to take a taxi for less than a taxi.
Three years ago, in Room 807 of Yingu Building not far from Jinshan headquarters, Li Wanqiang’s father brought a pot of millet porridge. Lei Jun, Huang Jiangji, Lin Bing, and Zhou Guangping each made a bowl of millet porridge. Established in this way, who would have thought that the valuation could reach 40 billion in just three years.
And you Ma Dong, many people said you were a liar back then, looking back now, isn’t this all a miracle created by the Internet. "
Ma Yun was taken aback by Tang An's long speech, and this was one of the few times that he became the "educated" party during face-to-face conversations.
However, from Tang An's words, Ritter also understood that group buying and taxi-hailing software are both platform subsidies.
Since the ticket price cannot be determined, the ticketing platform can provide subsidies.
And Tang An acquired Nuomi.com.
Tang An is not afraid to reveal it in advance, anyway, the Spring Festival is less than a month away.
One month is enough to catch everyone by surprise
Ma Yun stopped worrying about this, and changed the subject, "Tang Dong has a wide range of investments. The Internet industry is full of flowers, and investors like you are needed now."
Tang An shook his head, "Investment is not easy either, it would be great if one of the [-] emerging Internet companies can survive the A round.
Last year, when I voted for Angel Round Didi, the founder Cheng Wei talked to me last year and said that one day a group of taxi drivers rushed up, dropped a smartphone on the ground, and yelled: Liar, you Didi Disoft has more than ten megabytes a day, but there is not a single order.
Cheng Wei was a little confused, and it took him a long time to realize that the driver was talking about traffic.
Mobile phone traffic charges are so high now, and it’s not as good as the previous 2G network. Many drivers leave the software on all day long, and their mobile phones are shut down due to arrears. "
"You have to subsidize phone bills for drivers, not just passengers." As an investor, Ma Yun immediately pointed out the problem.
"Mr. Ma really hit the nail on the head." Tang An praised.
"Cheng Wei originally wanted to charge each driver a three-yuan installation fee, but now he wants to subsidize the traffic fee instead.
But there are no customers, and sooner or later the driver will not use Didi again if he has no business.
So I suggested to him to send people around the Third Ring Road to take a taxi with Didi software every day, which would cost thousands of yuan almost every day.
After two months, Angel Wheel ran out of money and the driver stayed, but there were still no customers.
We have no choice, and I am not afraid of burning money, but we can’t burn money meaninglessly. Cheng Wei also found all mainstream investment institutions, including Ah Li, but none of them were willing to invest money. "
"Then how did you do it later?" Ma Yun asked curiously.
Today's Didi is an ordinary emerging Internet company. There are many such companies in the country, and Ma Yun has not yet caught the eyes of Ma Yun, and he doesn't know much about them.
"God helped him." Tang An sighed.
"In November last year, there was a heavy snowfall in Beijing, and many office workers couldn't get a taxi at all, so they began to try Didi Taxi, which they had never used.
On that day, there were 12 orders in Beijing, and then it started to get on the right track. In December, Zhu Xiaohu from GSR Ventures found Cheng Wei and wanted to invest 200 million US dollars. "
Ma Yun nodded, "Luck is also a necessary factor for success. Director Tang found another good project."
"I hope I can survive the A round, but I invested another 200 million US dollars." Tang An said.
A snowstorm revived Didi, which was on the verge of bankruptcy, and was valued from less than 2000 million yuan in the angel round to [-] million US dollars in the A round.
Of course, Tang An wanted to follow suit, and continued to invest 200 million US dollars to let Zhu Xiaohu go, and the total shares reached 38.18%.
The A round can be monopolized by one person, but after the B round, other capital must be introduced, otherwise Didi will wait to be killed quickly.
Tang An and Ma Yun chatted here for more than half an hour. They talked about everything from the Internet to real estate, from domestic to foreign countries.
Even after hearing Tang An's talk about the scenery of Vatnajökull in Iceland, Ma Yun said that he would definitely go back to the cinema to watch "Interstellar" next summer. If it is so beautiful, he would consider going there.
The two men chatted blindly for nearly an hour, but it was not interesting. Tang An lowered his head and glanced at the time, it was almost 10 o'clock.
Ma Yun smiled and said, "It's getting late, I'm really sorry to delay Tang Dong for so long."
"It is not an opportunity for ordinary people to have a long talk with Chairman Ma, and I have benefited a lot from it."
After some politeness, Tang An left.
Then Ma Yun's secretary Lin Qian walked in.
"Chairman, are you going back now?" Lin Qian asked.
"Let's go."
Ma Yun shook his head and sat up from the sofa.
Seeing him like this, Lin Qian thought for a while and asked, "Did your talk with Director Tang not go well?"
Ma Yun said with a smile, "We talked about the film industry for 3 minutes at the beginning, and then we said something serious."
Lin Qian was taken aback for a moment, she didn't expect that Tang Dong, who was so young, could not follow Ma Yun's rhythm in the conversation.
She still remembered how she agreed to be Ma Yun's secretary at the beginning, and clearly remembered those two sentences:
I hope you can stay, see more, feel more.Give me a chance, and give yourself a chance to learn more, and then I will support you no matter what decision you make.
It was just such ordinary two sentences, without much enthusiasm, without promising anything else, but there seemed to be a magic power in Ma Yun's words at that time, which made people believe him without thinking.
(End of this chapter)
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